so one from Carla submitted the question raised by the medium last week has been niggling me all week, you have stated in the past that you can sense the departed, their karma persists, yet in your response to the medium you emphasize the 49 day limit to the Bardo the transition, the reincarnation process, and that we have no more contact with the deceased thereafter. Uh, that's not quite exactly what I said. It may be hit me, perhaps was interpreted that way. But you know, again these. Yeah, these are solid questions so the 49 day limit for one thing. There, that's just kind of an average number right they actually say within three weeks, generally you're transitioning. Some people make that transition literally within seconds depending on the force of their transitional karmas. So, you know, the idea is, were in fact in this liminal space, you know where is this mindstream their so called karma, where is it, and then during the transition. We have no more contact Well, yes or no, I mean, you don't have contact with their superficial expressions right I mean, what you knew is that body that's gone. But there there is some thing that continues, and that you can't have contact with, whether it's conscious or unconscious that depends on the level of the sensitivity on both ends. So this is why I say, you know, death is damned to the body, it's not the death of the end of a relationship. And so what ceases, is, is basically that outer gross presentation, the indestructible continuum, in fact, by definition, doesn't cease, that that goes on forever. And so when we talk about contact the contact depends on, I mean you can have a contact with any lifeforce at any time there's no statute of limitations on this, but the level of contact. Therefore depends on what level of being you're contacting, you're not you know that fundamental contact is always available, whether it's recognized accessible to either party that depends on the sensitivity the level of meditation power and that sort of thing. So, let me read this again and see if there's more than I can answer that we've seen in the past that you can sensitive party for sure their comment persists, definitely get a response to the meeting, emphasize a 49 day limit to the Bardo. Yeah, that's a limit to the Bardo, it's not a limit to the indestructible continuum, that's limitless. And again, like I mentioned the 49 day is don't reify that that's just the kind of average, they say, and always wondered about this like you know really, I, you know, with my little scientific edgy mind. How do they know that again I this is not, it's just a challenge like somebody take a poll. Right. It's like, nope, I've actually pressed some llamas on this and got a little snippy where you know they have these numbers in there. You know seven days after separate after every seven days you recapitulate the Bardo process well I actually tried to pin one llama die so why seven days. And he just never gave me a satisfactory answer, he just couldn't count me he goes, you know, fundamentally, I realized he was just relying on his understanding of doctrine. And on one level yeah that's kind of okay but on another level. I just I don't know I kind of struggle with these sorts of things. And that's why I take all these things in what's called it's the technical term, but it's called ritualized phenomenology where, you know how literally do we take these numbers and things. This is a very much an open question for me. So I don't you know, I abide by. Some of these principles as I've come to understand them. The literal aspect of that, that remains open to me. But the most important thing here is a contact tissue, you can have contact with them, you can dedicate merit to them. You can do that sort of thing, there's no statute of limitations on that. It's just that, according to these teachings, a lot of this makes tremendous sense, the longer, they've been transitioned the further they are ensconced in their next reified mind state, the harder it is for them to have overt recognition of this level of contact. Does that mean that there's nothing going on underneath no I don't think so. I think you can actually affect them and touch them at that level. But you know, this is just somewhat educated conjecture on my part, I can't speak with real authority on some of these issues. I don't think anybody but a blizzard can. Okay, so maybe one more from Lynn, who has raised hand, and then maybe unless something pops in we'll call it for today.