Starcrossed Lovers (literally!) ft. Astrologer Aliza Kelly
3:38AM Feb 7, 2022
Are we fated to be together or not be together? How do you read your own stars to find your soulmate? Let's find out what's in the stars right now, shall we?
Hi, I'm Alisha Rai.
And I'm Sarah Wendell. Welcome to lovestruck daily, the show where we bring you your daily dose of love.
I'm so excited. It is our first day, our first episode our launch episode. We're so excited to have you here with us. And we're excited to tell you this story and all of the stories we have to come
today we're gonna be talking about astrology and about the Ultimate Star crossed lovers, a man who received a prophecy about his future wife, and literally rode his bike from India to Sweden to find her.
I'm very curious, Alisha, do you believe in astrology? 100% 100 You were telling me it's like the it was just part of your environment growing up, which is very different from my experience. I'm sure you are shocked to know.
Yeah, I mean, Indians are very committed to astrology I think in general and and of course, there's exceptions to that rule. But when children were born into the family when I was born, my mom did like a star chart of my you know, birth and my future and I believe in it. I I've seen too much too many things come true. What about you? I honestly
don't know. Even if I skeptical? I honestly don't know if that's that's something I would do. I have only gotten into astrology on a very superficial level because I sort of thought okay, well, this is my sign. That's good. I know my sign and you know that that's what I needed to know that
my Gemini twins were both Geminis. It were both Geminis.
I also, I'm sure that it will really just appall you to know that I don't like being told what to do.
No, that is a shocker. Sarah, I cannot believe it.
I know you are shocked to your core. I don't like being told what to do. And I certainly don't want to plan at telling me what to do, let alone a whole bunch of them plus some degrees. Then when you bring in the math, I'm like okay, math definitely doesn't get to tell me what to do.
I don't know. I don't know if it so much is tells you what to do. Or it just sort of tells you what will be. Yeah. So today I've got a story to tell you that might help change your mind about astrology and love. And to help me I've invited celebrity astrologer Elisa Kelly to join us on the show, a columnist and best selling author and hosts her own podcast stars like us. Please welcome Aliza Kelly.
At least I know you are an astrologist is that the correct term astrologer
astrologer, I mean honestly like it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. But I think at least this astrologer prefers astrologer to astrologist as preference.
All right, good to know that's the word I will use. i As you may have noticed, I do not have a birth chart or a star chart or anything, anything like that. Is that what you do if I come to an astrologer? Is that part of what you what you do professionally?
Well, I've been doing this for almost 10 years, I have out scaled my ability to be able to offer one on one readings anymore. Yeah, just based on the volume, which is an incredible blessing. But yes, for many, many years, it was the heartbeat of my practice. And I still work with a select number of clients on a monthly basis who I've been working with for many, many years.
That's so cool. So the demand for astrology has gone up now. It has Yeah, I can't imagine why people in a time of great turmoil want an indication of what's going to happen. I know it's
shocking and totally surprising. No one could have ever seen it coming.
So today we're gonna be talking about Indian artist PK Mahan on the when he was born, he received a prophecy from an astrologer. It just basically gave him a glimpse of what his life would be. The prophecy said that he would marry a Taurus woman from a faraway land who owned a forest and played a flute. This didn't make much sense to his family, but they're like, Okay, cool. So he was an artist. He grew up to be an artist. He moved to Delhi like he had nothing in his pocket, moved to Delhi and became like a portrait artist on the street. And he his whole thing was like in 10 rupees in 10 minutes, I can paint your portrait. One day, it was a winter evening, and this woman came by. Her name was Charlotte, and she was from Sweden. He described the first time seeing her as though he didn't have any late and she asked for one of his street paintings and he was so nervous that he couldn't do it. So She came back three times over three days. And his view was 10 rupees and she kept giving him 20. And he kept saying, no, no, I can't I can't take money, more money from you. Because you know, I'm not I'm not going to cheat a beautiful woman from her money, his smooth PK was. So he had like a feeling about this woman. And he asked her, was she a Taurus? Was she from Sweden? Does she own a forest? And did she play the flute? And her answer to all of those things was yes. Get out. And after several conversations, you know, she was accepting of this. She was like, Okay, well, you know, I'll see where this goes. And she agreed to visit his home village with him. And the first monument she saw when she got there was the famous Konark temple. And she became very emotional because this had been a temple that she'd had framed in her college dorm when she was younger. And she had no idea where it was or what it was about. And she saw it there. And she was like, Well, this is a sign for me to, and they spent the next several weeks together, his family loved her. But she had to go back to Sweden, she said goodbye. She said, Please promise, you know that you'll follow me there or that we'll talk. And more than a year past, they kept in touch through love letters. And he didn't have enough to buy a plane ticket, or to hitch a ride on a car. So he sold everything he owned, he bought a bicycle. And he followed her along that same hippie trail. And he just kept getting letters from her along the way in Kandahar and Kabul in Istanbul. And that like kind of kept him going. So he started on the 22nd of January 1977. He reached Europe on the 28th of May, and then finally traveled to her city by train. Wow. And he said, you know, he was like, I still don't understand why people think it was such a big deal to cycle to Europe. I just did what I had to do. I had no money, but I had to meet her. So he is cycling for love, but never loved cycling. And they they have been married for about 40 years now they have two kids. And somebody asked him to share the secret, you know, of their happy marriage. And he said, I have one secret there is no secret Marriage is a union not only physically but also spiritually. When I enter the house, I park my ego outside ego is connected to the mind, I call my human mind a mad monkey. But when you park your ego outside, on the inside of the house, there is only openness. It's a beautiful story. It really is a lovely story. And I loved so much about it, but especially the fact that as far as he was concerned, this was written in the stars. And eventually, as far as she was concerned, this was written in the stars.
And it sounds to me like a lot of astrology is signs of things or signals that you recognize and reflections of what's happening now. Do I have that about right, Aliza?
Yeah, I think that astrology is a lot about signs, symbols, synchronicities patterns, and sort of tuning yourself to those frequencies, so that you can be more receptive to the opportunities that have the potential to change your life,
in your experience. And with something like this where it's a love story where it's a relationship. Have you seen other people brought about together by astrology or by, you know, something that that you've told them or something that they have heard from another astrologer?
Yeah, absolutely. And I think in a lot of ways, I'm, I'm definitely like patient zero, in some ways for myself, because I met my fiancee, who I'm going to be marrying this year, we've been together. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah, the day two I came in with the charts. I you know, at that point, it had been enough years where I knew listen, if someone wants to date me, they're going to have to accept that this is it's like my set, you know, like my second language fluency after English is astrology.
That what a cool way to say that this is your fluency. Yes.
And we met on Tinder in our initial conversation back and forth. i We obviously you know, had to just jump straight in, talk about what signs we are. And he was, he wasn't obnoxious, he wasn't minimizing the work that I do and what my gifts and talents and also passions are. So to see him be like, Oh, I'm I know that. I don't know much, but I know I'm a Capricorn rising. Well, I am a Capricorn rising. And by the second date, I had come in, you know, he had given me all of his birth information, and I came in with our charts. And I came in with like diagrams and maps. You think I was making this up? I have a Tarot pamphlet from a deck that I had just gotten and I was like, looking at the guidebook. So so that was the scrap paper I used. So I started to make diagrams on the second date to try to illuminate why compatibility was so great, our relationship is proof of the fact that the compatibility was so strong. And it wasn't just a fluke, and that there was a correspondence between good compatibility from an astrological perspective and a legitimate long term serious relationship.
Wow. But I mean, that is that is part of it, right? Like everything kind of leads you where you need to be.
Exactly. And I think that, you know, I would love to live in a world where people are more receptive to, not who they think that they should be with from an ego perspective, but who they're actually compatible with. And whether you use astrology as that tool for delineation or therapy, or whatever modality,
I are big fans of therapy here.
It's a maya, it's an integral part of a healing practice. I think that astrology like these other modalities offers perspective on multidimensionality.
And I'm trying to, you know, put myself in the place of a skeptic who might be listening and might say, well, that probably would have happened to her, regardless of whether she consulted an astrologer or did a birth chart or anything like that, if she knew nothing about anything, she would have maybe gone from single to committed or you know, or they might have gone from single to committed. So what would you say about that? What that that this wouldn't matter? In the outcome of your life, regardless whether you know, or not, no,
I don't really talk to those people very often.
That is an excellent attitude. I will say, for those people that there's definitely ethics, things that, you know, legitimate astrologers adhere to, like, my uncle will not tell anybody about when they're going to die, or what's going to happen with their death or anything like that. But if if I remember, because I was at that point a few years ago, where I was just ready to give up, I was like, This Is Love is not going to work out for me anytime soon, I'm just going to stay focused on my work. And I'm not going to put myself out there anymore, because it's too much. And I spoke with my uncle, like, there was a conference call and my family. Because I said this to my mom was like, I'm done. I'm not doing this anymore. And she was just sort of heartbroken about that. And so she said, you know, talk to your uncle, at least. So I talked to my uncle. And he was like, I'm not worried about you. Like, if you know, the worry is love, like, I'm not worried about you, I definitely see a lot of love and happiness in your future in the near future. And I just think you should not close yourself off yet. Or ever. And I was like, Oh, all right. And so that was kind of in the back of my head, where I didn't maybe work as hard on Yes, but I also didn't completely close everything off. And it worked out for me, you know. So I do think that there is some sense of motivation and knowing it's if it's, if it's hope, it's hope, or just something that to keep you going i do there's there's a huge value in just having somebody look at your stars and say, no, no, no, like, keep going on this path you're doing you're doing the right thing. Yeah, I've
said that many times. Yeah, I've said many times to my clients in various forms, you know, here's the timing that we're working with, you know, can you tolerate another six months, another year of being single or not having the type of resources that you want to have or waiting? You know, because that's the timing of your chart? And usually the answer is yes, but knowing that there is, yeah, knowing that there is hope. And knowing that there is something that you can keep moving towards, which is one of the things that astrology just so poetically exposes, you know, is that we're working with cycles, always, and some cycles take longer than others. But there's always a beginning and end to a cycle. We're not just static, we're always in flow. And all my clients who have made the commitment to move towards what they truly desire, have put in hard work. You are constantly needing to challenge yourself and knowing that there is something that you can keep moving towards, which is one of the things that astrology just so poetically exposes, you know, is that we're working with cycles, always and some cycles take longer than others, but there's always a beginning and end to a cycle. We're not just static, we're Always in flow.
Speaking of cycles, is there any kind of planetary situation coming up that you think will cause flux in love and in either positive or negative ways?
Well, at the time of this recording Venus, which is the planet of love and values and beauty, just completed its retrograde cycle, when a planet goes retrograde, it has first gone direct past certain degrees. So it had gone up to 26 degrees Capricorn, then it started going backwards. So that was one initial pathway, then the retrograde was another initial pathway. And now Venus is going direct starting back at 11 degrees Capricorn, going back over that same area that it's now gone making a third path through that time. And that finally will end on March 2, when Venus is out of that particular region of the Zodiac where it's been going up and down and up and down since November. So I think that for a lot of folks, that is definitely something to flag is that come March 2, there will be a lot of new narratives introduced because Venus has been sort of stuck in the same area for quite a number of weeks.
I'm all for new narratives. That's like my favorite thing. Me too.
Yeah. It's nice to have the idea of shaking things up. Move of change.
Yes. 2022 is the year that the quarter one is sort of like this again. Here. Things start to really change from an astrological perspective, quarter to
Well, thank you. Yeah, I hope I hope we can have you come back to talk about quarter two.
I can't wait for quarter two.
This has been like, let's let's do it. Like I'm looking forward now. But thank you so much, Alisa. This has been so wonderful for me and for Sarah too, I'm sure.
Thank you. I love that you guys are both Gemini. That's so fun. Gemini twins. We love to see it.
Yeah, I we are we're close. Right, Sarah our birthdays are like four days apart.
Um, I think so. You're the sixth and I'm a 13th. Yeah.
30. Yeah. So
yeah, well, Alicia, I say this thing called there are no coincidences. Take for short. And I'm getting married on your birthday this year. Oh,
you are not Oh, wow. There are no coincidences. Can I tell you six six is a great day. So
it's also this the year from the numeral numerological perspective is a six. This is a six year which is connected to Gemini and Gemini. And Taro is the lovers. So it all comes full circle.
Oh, that's amazing.
That's so cool. Well, thank you for talking to the four of us. Yeah. Absolutely.
Wow, there are no coincidences. Indeed. And we're we're so happy we could have you. We really hope you come back and we can talk maybe Wedding Dates perhaps and I was buying because that would be great. Oh,
thank you. That was amazing. Oh my god.
We want to give you a little something to carry the good feelings with you into your day. Sara, what's your love to go today?
I am really struck by something Elisa said that edge. A star chart is an invitation. And then astrology is an invitation. And I think our love to go today is to think about inviting yourself to get to know you. What are the invitations you can extend to yourself to get to know who you are today. Whether it's something that you want to invite into your life or it's something you want to let go. You are worth knowing.
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