And so the way it works with this, VEDA not pleasant and unpleasantness that's built in and neither that's built into all experiences is it as we begin becoming mindful of the pleasant and unpleasant and neither pleasant or unpleasant of our experience, we can begin to see how we react to it, how we respond to it, how we live at avoiding pain or discomfort or unpleasantness, and how there's a holding on to clinging to pleasure, comfort, and, and how that can be so automatic. It's a construct a strong habit, and the this the automatic nature of it is, is seen in that the, this this word veteran, meaning that that which is known or that we just felt is not Pure sensual pleasure or pain. In fact, a nick in the Buddhist analysis of things, there is no such thing as pure pleasure pure pain, all of it is mediated to some degree, by the mind the perceptions, we have the interpretations, we have the meaning we add two things can be very, very subtle. But in the Buddhist psychology, feeling tone veterano is an aspect of the mind, not the body. So, even a very nice pleasant feeling of the body, like getting a massage or something, or the warmth of the sun and the body is not completely 100%, free of the mental evaluation of it, the recognition of what it is, and because of that, it's this Vinaya is very intimate, to the mind to the inner life. And that intimacy to it gives it a certain kind of authority or our tendency to want to, kind of much more to react to or to or to cling or push away. And so it's okay to It's wonderful to experience the simple pleasures of life is wonderful to just allow them to come. And it's, you know, it's a unique view, because inner life benefits so much in the freedom that just allows pleasantness to come the freedom that allows pain to be there without evaluation or judgment or pre, you know, reactivity. There's something wonderful about in that freedom. That's kind of a pleasure beyond pleasure. That so we what we wanted, what we're trying to do in mindfulness practice, is to stay close to the place, simple place, where we start feeling pleasant and unpleasant pleasure and pain, and become wise about that reaction. Their response to it, the pursuit of it, the avoidance of it, the degree to which there's craving, compulsion operating, and the possibility of freedom in relationship to it. And as we begin being simpler in this mental, inner mental life, and able to just kind of go through the day, in his simplicity of the day of just being present for the experience of our life, without looking and trying to make things pleasant or pursue it. One of the rewards of that is that, I would suggest that more often than not, and sometimes it's very much not, but more often than not, there's a lot more pleasure in this world of this Kama loka, this world of sensual pleasure. And, and to, not not to indulge in it. But to allow ourselves to feel that pleasantness to take the time for it in a way that supports us to be present, to be mindful. And to learn how not to get seduced by the thoughts, the ideas, the desires, the agendas we have, that takes us away from the simplicity of being where freedom is found, where there's room to breathe, and we breathe easily. And we have the pleasure of an easy, relaxed breath as we go through our lives. So So that's, I think this talk today is partly encouragement to be mindful of pleasant and unpleasant and how, What's your relationship to it? Or how do you respond to it? And what's your relationship to anticipated pleasure, anticipated pain, discomfort, What is your reaction to its presence, the anticipation of it, and also, when it's no longer there.