So I started off my career as a social worker. And that influences a lot of my philosophies on sales calls. I'm all about no sleaziness, no sliminess, very social justice oriented. And so I started off in social work, I got a job at Duke University. I thought I made it. But I also had six figures of student loan debt in a three hour commute. So I was like, Yes, I would take two buses in a 30 minute walk to work every single day, I had a car, but the university parking was $100 a month. And I could not afford that on a $2,500 a month paycheck, like that was my groceries right there. And so I was like, okay, the bus is free. So I would wake up super early and stay up super late catching this bus trying to get to work every single day. And I obviously couldn't keep up with it. I knew that I wanted to have a family. And also I just didn't like the impact that I was having at the university. And so I side hustled for three years. And I think that's the part too that, there's not a lot of conversations about like, we hear the six figures in six months and the fast success and the fast quitting, that was not me whatsoever. It took me three years to quit my job. And the pandemic really helped when I was able to finally work from home and I save all those commuting hours. And I was able to finally create a full time income on part time hours.