There were a couple of moments, I'd say one kind of a low moment and a high moment that I would say kind of affected my my path or my journey, but one was seeing kind of disastrous philanthropy, so I it stuck with me I volunteered once long ago, it was a pro bono legal aid clinic. And I was just volunteering on the weekend and I was kind of the doing the reception kind of the intake where people would walk in the door. So you know, the role of the volunteer was to take in their information, kind of help them fill in this form. And then that would guide which kind of pro bono attorney they got assigned to. And so I remember this young mother, I was just so impressed that she like had the gumption to you know, she was in need. She was young single mother kind of impoverished, and she was really struggling financially after the birth of her baby. So, you know, she knocks on the door, this legal aid clinic on a Saturday, and was just seeking help. And, you know, but she had I think, like $10,000 in medical bills. And what I saw though, once she was paired up with the attorney, the attorney was so rude and condescending to this, like bold, young woman. You know, they, they kind of blamed her for a situation and I was just cringing the entire time. It was terrible. And to me, it was, it was a horrible, horrible example of what not to do that stuck with me. And I'm like, we need to do so much better, right? There's all this need out there, and shame on us. So I can't forget that. And I always think of her you know, just how brave she was, and how together she was, despite all of her challenges. And that nonprofit really failed her that day. But I've also seen the very best that nonprofits can be so as you mentioned, of course, it's going to be Jamaica, right, that experience in the Peace Corps. But, you know, having that good fortune to spend two years as a Peace Corps volunteer, there was so life changing. And while we certainly do have poverty in the United States, I just never seen the poverty like what I saw there. You know, I saw families living in dirt shacks, you know, shacks with dirt floors, and zinc roofs, and these were homes they built by hand, and many of them were considered illegal squatters, and lived under the risk of their home being bulldozed not by choice, right? This was there just kind of scrambling and struggling and, you know, just roads and transportation were so challenging. If it rains, maybe you're maybe maybe you're not going to get to work that day, maybe the bus isn't going to come. There was one community where I saw an entire neighborhood swept away by a hurricane, and other community where I saw children kind of scavenging in garbage heaps, collecting soda cans so that their family could buy food. So many people were just struggling, but in the midst of all this poverty and need, I saw these heroes, you know, people rising to the occasion. I always think of that Fred Rogers quote, I think it was around September 11, where he said, you know, in times of crisis, look for the helpers. And they were there and so inspiring. You know, even if in a crowded, noisy open air school, in Jamaica, I would see children and teachers who were just so dedicated to learning no matter what the obstacles were, or, you know, I would see Jamaican community leaders walking miles in the hot sun to get to the Habitat for Humanity community meeting. So, in my work assignment there during that time, I was assigned to a teacher's college to teach computer literacy to Jamaica's future teachers. And this teacher's college where I worked was run by these wonderful, strong, feisty Franciscan nuns, who created this beautiful school in the midst of poverty and violence. And they created they made sure to create this meaningful learning experience for their students. And every day I saw how they were changing lives and how their students admired them, and how could that not stick with you?