Yeah, there was a person in one of the groups that was really, he was almost like, he was pretty, quite bright, but he would be really antagonistic to people and just almost like, distort destroy groups, you know. And, and there was a time when, for example, you know, were some of the facilitators just, like, kind of really got upset, and they want to exclude him. And I'm not into excluding people, it's like, as long as they're doing the process, I'm fine. You know, they can do whatever they want. And within the process, he was like, really good listener, he stick stuck with the time he was always had the clock to make sure the time was right. The problem came in the introductions, when people were introducing themselves or was outside of that structure. He would like to have the video of it he called he was like, fuck you, you're and get Shut up, you know, in some in this really nasty, but, but I would always, I would always also in the circle, everything kind of worked itself out and he would get really mad at somebody and, and that person would just reflect back what they're saying. And, and it just kind of got equalized and worked out now. And I would actually be kind of tense like, oh my god, this person is coming in. And I was like, I was all nervous because the whole thing is going to blow up people won't come back because this guy I didn't want to exclude him either. And his whole thing was like being seen as a scapegoat for all these other groups that he'd been in. And so anyway, I did circles recordings with him or if we did an empathy circle one on one several of them he would attacked me on on Facebook book, you know, saying Oh, You're excluding me from the trainings you're, and just, you know, going on and on. And I say, whenever he had a complaint, I said, Let's have an empathy circle to talk about it. And it always kind of cleaned up the class to a point where it's like, totally, you know, he totally worked out. In fact, I started seeing it as an opportunity. It's not rewarding him, somebody were saying, Oh, you're just rewarding him by listening. It was. It was like, this is an opportunity to demonstrate the empathy circle process and to spread it. Test it out. Yeah. Yeah, it's even more than tested out, but to demonstrate it. So I really started using that process with conservatives when they would attack me like, oh, great, come, let me talk to you and empathize. Let's have an empathy circle. So I use it actually to promote the empathy circle. So anyway, it's kind of a long winded explanation of that. Yeah.