2:02PM Jul 16, 2022
As in this organization for the City of Atlanta, is to investigate, research
the NPUs 25 making use of the city
issues that impact
their ordinances and other forms of legislation that will be coming down to their communities and to get their opinions on those ordinances and in legislation. Additionally, our responsibility is to is to advise the City Council. The communities responses to questions and issues that will impact their communities. So collectively, we make up the 25 NPUs. We have an appointed delegate for each of the 25 NPUs. Our job here today is to take a look at the issues that are currently before us and decide on how we think about them. And pass that down to our NPUs to get their advice, comments, recommendations, and then we pass it back up to the city council. To do so without further ado, dude, we're going to go ahead and get started. We will take and ensure that we have adequate representation. I am going to call the call first my just the NPU. If you are the voting member for that APU, please say aye or present and state your name NPU A NPU B, Richard Raugh, Here zeros in PVC, I'm sorry can you see sad when you see it in PDS NPU E here! Ansley Grantham is MPU F
NPU G? Okay, I'm sorry. They asked me to repeat the full names. I'll go back and do that for NPU B we have Mr. Richard Raugh. In PQ II, we have answering random in NPU F Kay Stevenson and now NP UG. NP H or leaves the movie industry and as Miss Barbara Leath see just some Jim Martin come in for NPU D NPU I? NPU J? NPU K? Lora Hawk that's Miss Lora Hawk for NPU K. NPU L? you're getting lead Sherpa Live from San Jose Shamu. S AP are Ottawa believe it'll be showing our new revenue
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an alternate? Okay. Your chair did not send me information on that. So can you remind your GM and they need to let us know that you've been appointed
NPU M Kyle Kessler NPU N? Naomi Siodmak. Siodmak. I mess it up every time don't apologize. NPU O? Luis Gonzalez. Mr. Gonzalez? I've
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Mr. Owens wasn't expecting you this morning. Okay. nppv Alright, Stephanie flowers and community MPW. MBU X and as Adrienne program she used to be appointed as the the alternate delegate worry,
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this man. And in NPU Z? Ok, I guess today that would be me Squares probably on her way to see how many people here I'm sure 16 is that when you can share 60 to 60. minutes, Mr. Hunter. This is when did you get a number of 16? Attention. All right, so we do have a quorum. There are 16 voting members present so we know you're gonna get started if I have a question or a question. I'm going to cooperate if you want to come to the mic so everybody can hear you. Okay, Mr. Crawford, I get a text this morning that you will not be representative day. So thank you so very much for coming.
Okay. I didn't mean to take up the space. All right. So it'd be
good to meet you. Okay, so that gives us 17. Thank you so very much. We sit down. First intelligent agenda. Did everybody pick up a package on the agenda? The gender person that you're
submitting voting members are the bat sharing it's an unconditional
so we're going to show you this in person today. But as far as voting, we're going to have to get confirmation from your chair has to notify us so that you can efficiently vote for the NPU but we definitely are going to show you that it's being present today.
Okay. All right. Hopefully everybody picked up a copy of the agenda on your weekend. Did anyone see anything on today's agenda that needs to be corrected or deleted or amended in any way to serve being the most innovative second step and you said me already has become a motion and seconded that comes out. Alright, so the motion was made by Mr. Attorney. And seconded by Ms. Stephanie flowers as your company motioned and seconded that the agenda for today be accepted as presented. All those in favor please let it be known by raising your hands. The voting members please raise your hand.
16 hour I think you also devalue policy. The acceptance of the agenda. Anybody have staying. Okay, thanks so very much so the agenda is approved. In your packet, you should have minutes for shooting at meaning. And you'll see on the agenda that we still have March 19 and April 16 minutes. Because we do have we because it was technical glitches. We had to go back and fill in a little of the information in 116 and we're still trying to that was our first in person meeting. So everything was being recorded, and they had to get that recording from the TV station. So you do have the June at coming to maintain minutes attached to that night that you received. Did anyone see anything on the internet at the minutes? That needs to be corrected
and it was 18 minutes as presented by already correct corrections. Hearing loss
All right. Thank you so much Mr. Ross. It has been motioned and seconded that the minutes of the June 18 meeting be accepted as presented. All those in favor please raise your raise by themselves during the commentary calendar.
Anybody objecting to the acceptance of the maps as presented none? Anybody abstaining? Somebody's Okay. Gentlemen. We have two presentations scheduled for this morning. And then Category Five the agenda for announcements that was generally reserved for announcements from city officials here. at City Hall. I did not receive any notices about announcements, but if any, there are any announcements from a city officials that please just raise your hand let me know. The two presentations that we have this morning. One is from Mr. Anthony Knight was the project manager. Department of City Planning is Office of design Historic Preservation studio and is Mr. Knight here.
Yeah, okay. We'll ask me a little bit later on. Then our second presentation is from also from the Department of City Planning. Miss Leah LaRue Assistant Director of Neighborhood Planning Units each of you should have received a copy of Council resolution 22 R 34 Dash 14 and type in best practices. We sent the resolution to you. We also sent the first preliminary draft of this plan practices packages to you via e mail Leah for a day in today's Alright, so that would be if it looks like this. Resolution 22 are very affordable 14. Council member a council member Amos render this resolution and it calls DCP and APAB. To come up with what they do in the US best practices. The document that you have shouldn't be state pages and we will find that for the preliminary recommendations that we've come up with. This was really disappointed and go over some of this when you do that. We're going to allow a few minutes we want to make recommendations from the floor as we go through these. This is an APAB responsibility. Ladies and gentlemen. We set it to all the chairs all the delegates and all of the audits. We have to have been completed and ready for submission to the CHS committee is that legal? cdhs think June July 23 of August. And you're going to get completed and ready for submission. So if you don't have recommendations today, please jot down anything that does come to mind as you're reading these. You can email your recommendations to be sent up to this number but we do the PNP news.
Good morning. Lila roads Department of City Planning for the city of Atlanta and Phillips How much time do I have?
15 minutes for the actual presentation. And then I'm going to give you a few minutes if they have some recommendations that we need to come from.
Okay, thank you very much. Okay, so we did discuss this last month I collected a ton of feedback from the members of APAB, which we greatly appreciate and we are certainly preparing to incorporate that into the next draft. I'd like to get any other feedback from you all before we produce that second draft. The other thing to add is that we are on all 25 NPU meeting agendas for July and moving into the first week of August for those Indians that did not meet in July. So we will cover all 25 And because by the time we are here for the August APAB meeting, we're asking the NPUss for feedback. We have set up an online forum on our website for residents to submit feedback on their own. We're also encouraging residents to talk to their AIPAC representative to give feedback or to call or email our office so there are tons of ways to offer feedback on these best practices. I am very proud of the work that DCP and APAB have done thus far. It is obviously not a finished product, but thus far it's looking good. And the feedback that I've heard from a pair members and from the general public is positive. So when I'm going to in the interest of time, because this draft that you have has not changed from last month. So I don't want to take time to read it again. Unless that's what you all prefer. What I'll do though, is run through the topics themselves. There are four categories and number one is anything you help. And the first item under a is an assessment. We're recommending that interviews that seek to evaluate their overall organizational health could consider performing annual internal reviews or membership polls to examine the overall health of the planning committee. And those reviews could include a number of different measures. This was inspired by MP L. And there's another interview I can't think of it but anything l conducts an annual survey of their members. It is done independently. It's something that the executive board does and sends out to all the members just asking them for feedback on all sorts of things. Such as the goals for the year the meeting management, communication etcetera. Participation under letter B, and leaders that seek to maximize participation and inclusion should consider making it easy and accessible. Of course making meetings accessible having public comment periods for those can be used where they have a representative model and general members of the public don't may or may not be able to participate. And of course, waiting prohibiting residents from participating minimizing barriers, I think at once piece of feedback on that item that I will share and that was that convened meetings should as a best practice committee meetings should be held in public places. Apparently there are a couple of places where a couple of interviews were done. Some video meetings are not held in public places, and that apparently makes members feel as though they are not free to attend those meetings even though they are invited publicly to attend. To look at these events in a private location. They may not feel comfortable attending and so they don't attend. So the best practice there is certainly to have those meetings in public places. I can see it's fair elections. Of course me use that seat to minimize conflict and election to consider the importance of transparency, fairness and inclusivity and their officer elections.
Under it, the bylaws reviewed and things that wish to ensure members are freely able to participate in the annual bilaterally process will take a few different steps to ensure transparency and inclusivity. We have certainly certainly found that in the entities that have been proxies over the elections and or bylaws. It is almost always related to a lack of transparency, sometimes unintentionally. Oftentimes that happens or gets energy. And at the last minute you're scrambling to pull people together just to meet the deadline to have the election done or to have the bylaw so that the body doesn't know that this is happening. And that's where you that's where you get those complaints and other issues so we definitely recommend having a transparent and inclusive process when that is announced. Timeline was announced and opportunities to participate or analysis as well. leadership transition, of course, if you'd said seek to ensure civility during a change in leadership shouldn't certainly consider having a transition meeting where they're exchanging all of the information from the outgoing officers to the incoming officers. Listing assets will be helpful such as websites, social media passwords, any maps, any records, etc should all be maintained by an officer and prepare to be passed down in the event of an outgoing officer being replaced by a new coming off guard and any irrelevant information should be shared. Of course, this is all for the benefit of the interviewer itself. The only folks that suffer when there is when there is not a seamless transition is the MPU itself. So we certainly consider it a best practice. To have a solid and seamless leadership transition. Conflict Resolution. We did get recommendations on or feedback rather on conflict resolution, which was and we're prepared to incorporate that we've got to figure out the wording and I'm happy to take recommendations on that. Today as well. But we are encouraging me to use that wish to minimize their conflict to ensure that their processes are clear and fair, and that bylaws are followed precisely. It is certainly encouraged and I believe that is in item D is well. Yes it is ID number two if you look further into the top of the page where we just pass, it says clauses that do not represent the MPs actual practice are amended to accommodate the NBU practice or the practices modified to comply with the bylaws. We find often that employees don't follow their bylaws not because they're looking to violate their bylaws but because the practice has changed the practice of events change, but they haven't actually formalized that in the Bible. So we strongly encourage you to a lender of address if your practice has changed. Or if you don't intend for your lessons to change, then change your practice to reflect the bylaws but either way, what is happening shouldn't be reflected in the bylaws and vice versa. So of course for conflict resolution, we encouraged them to us to to adhere to their bylaws very closely under either G education and training we did here in executive committee. Thank you. I cannot remember what the audience was in a past executive committee that the best practice shouldn't be that participating in educational opportunities that are free, shouldn't be required by MPs are mandatory. That is not necessarily the position of the Department of City Planning. But this is a joint effort between DCP and AIPAC. So we are certainly open to all the feedback in any case, we do believe that it is a best practice for MPs to encourage their elected officers to participate in any educational opportunities that are offered by the city of Atlanta, particularly zoning fundamentals and in one on one I assume communications there at this is pretty straightforward and simple information sharing and record keeping those MPs that wish to be transparent and share information freely. should consider posting everything that they have on your website if they have a website. Those that do not enhance social media should include links to all of the relevant information there. Of course distributing information freely and widely as widely as possible. disclosing to the general body any meetings or events that they have or their representative and maybe meeting agendas, easily accessible to the public.
of course having at least one officer that is charged with recording and maintaining accurate meeting minutes, recordings and attendance either those minutes with the Department of City Planning I do want to point out as I've said many times before, that is not required. By code and the US are not required to file they admitted with the Department of City Planning, but it isn't the best practice for sure it makes things easier for the MPU no question and of course making those recordings available to the public when meetings for virtual meetings. are recorded. We do have MP use that import the remains and do not make them available to the public. Even upon request. That is definitely not the best practice it is the best practice to provide that to the public upon request. If not publicly without request, certainly upon request, updating your annual membership, eligibility roster and any required proof of residency. It is a really really good practice. I believe my everything even desig if I remember correctly, publishing a list of eligible voters every month so there's no question of who's eligible to vote and giving people the opportunity before arriving at the meeting to correct any any bad information. If your name isn't on the list, and they believe it shouldn't be you can handle that prior to meeting instead of in the meeting. Certainly a best practice and we've seen that in a couple of other places as well. I haven't three other meetings. And this is another place where we've collected some feedback. Excuse me. I'll tell you the first book that feedback was on that section. It was that the minority vote must be documented. This is a best practice for sure. When there is the feedback that we get, and we recently had a really, really good example of this. I believe it was just this month or maybe maybe the end of June. The feedback that we get from the FAQs is support or non support. Basically, with some items we will get approvals with conditional recommended approvals with conditions and that will spell it out sometimes there will be comments that will spell it out but by and large what we get is a yes or a no. The MPU supports it or the entity does not support it. That feedback does not tell the deliberative bodies such as the zoning review board the board of zoning adjustment, the license for the board. forgetting someone with any of the other points in the other deliberative posts, it does not communicate the sentiment of the MPU why the MP was recommending approval or why the MP was recommending denial or why the vote was what it was especially if it's something like 36 to 35 we don't get that information we get well we get it the boards don't review that information the boards are looking at whether it's a yes or no whether the NDP supports it or not. It is a good idea to include in your own a summary of why the MPP is particularly not supporting from thing but even if you want to include why you are supporting something that is also a good idea. In this case, it is a best practice that the majority vote is heard especially when there is a vote something like I don't know 50 to 20 where, you know it's not it's not close like 30 about 30 seats, but there's still a nice chunk of people that that feel strongly that it should not be supported by you. That voice should be captured if there was a reason if there's a central single Sorry, there is a single reason, or even a couple of reasons that members of the filer feel strongly that an Irish shouldn't be supporting that can be done. We have seen that in a couple of MPs have been present in the meetings where the chairperson has asked Does anyone want to, you know, speak out loud as to why you wrote and know so that we can capture that and it's a really good practice. It certainly does inform the city as well. So three other meetings. I'm a is transparency and these will embrace the spirit of the Georgia Open Meetings Act as much as possible.
They will begin the general writer meetings by talking about voting eligibility participation rules, anytime limits etc. So that there are no surprises during the meeting, publishing any dates ahead of time. It's very, very important for transparency. There are a lot so that I realize this is a heavy lift for volunteer led organizations. There are lots of committees that have occurred that members of general mining may not know about so we certainly consider it a best practice for members to know when things are happening, especially in advance. And again, publishing eligible voters distributing the full meeting agenda etc. Meeting efficiency is an area where I got a lot of feedback but not feedback that is different from what is here. So it was passionate support for meeting efficiency. And then that's my particular virtual meetings of course managing complex topics. And then under item four is application review and the recommendations. The only other feedback that I received that is not captured here is standards for neighborhood recognition that came from our team we've recognized that there is no best practices here for standards for recognizing neighborhoods and can use from time to time a neighborhood organization will seek recognition with the MPU. And if the APU has not contemplated that in advance they will have to scramble to put together a procedure or policy or call our office and figure out what to do. It's a good idea to have that already documented. So thank you very much for your time. That's the end of my presentation and I'm happy to take any questions or feedback
if you have a question, please come up to the mic so they can capture your camera Mr Cropper because deferred stripping.
A question concerning being free and as it relates to 3k Six, and it all has to do with our hardness for voting has come from Nottage by some persons that have issues. The number of times you have to attend a meeting an employee helps with the poll. Many people have different schedules and cannot attend all meetings. But there are some times when there are issues that come up that they need to be involved parliament. So the question basically is why the mandatory to three or four meetings prior to your eligibility to vote if you live in an area and that has to do with the I think the question was, has to do with the help of the MPU something products so at some point, I would like to be particular incineration or segregate the elements appropriately to ask about haskoning Let me know I'm curious about it. Are there any inoperability coverages for APA or APU volunteers by the city? In case there are some type of legal processes that apply to decisions made?
I have approved Thank you very much for your question. Thank you, Mr. Crawford.
I'll answer the second question first because I can spend a few times the answer is no. And on the first question regarding attendance, eligibility that is immediately by me you determination the attendance eligibility is based on your MPs bylaws, each of your bylaws and every year around this time, and the US are meeting their bylaws committee so we can come meet you around but typically, excuse me.
around July, if you start gathering in their bylaws committees to discuss amendments to the bylaws. All residents of Atlanta are required to be allowed to vote on bylaws without any obstacle. at all whether they have never attended an MPC meeting before or not. Everyone in that interview can vote on bylaws. Everyone can make a recommendation on bylaws. So if attendance eligibility is something that the general party does not want, you have the authority to change that yourself. The city does not have any attendance requirements whatsoever for MPU status and by the basis. And for the record. We do have some IDs that don't have any attendance requirements at all. You can attend your very first meeting and vote in that meeting. And then there are others. Of course that have more stringent requirements. I know there was one. A few years ago they had a five meeting requirement they did event that eventually changed that but at one point they required five meetings before you could vote. So yeah, it just depends on the MPU meant to
also do quick. Mr. Cochran, what my MPs are letting me agree in times past when you want your voter to be informed, there were times where a given issue people would never attended or clueless about process and the many issues that may be impacted upon a given issue. And we'll bring in throngs of people, specifically on that either, without necessarily having a real informed vote on it. So mine was same as me. The bylaws that I've read, had that minimum requirement, so that it's not an effort to galvanize, without a basis or with information based on popularity. Or something to that effect, on intimidation, as they have set up tickets per the ordinance, or the ordinance. You come in at any moment, and you're eligible to vote on the bylaws because the bylaws is a tool that governs whether you attend or not. So the bylaws I think it's pretty boring. isn't aware of that. But that's what we've done is to avoid. We didn't use a media row issue that someone was, you know, galvanizing out of popularity versus real information. And then
add to that as well. One thing I will say was, you can always vote with the bylaws, but also to there is an eligibility besides the resident to follow the elections. Is that correct?
No, sir, that doesn't apply to elections. Yes, sir. It
doesn't apply to electoral law. That I would like to apply to election. You know, I was because she didn't have requirements for shipping.
And then the other thing I will say is that I understand in terms of popularity in terms of issues as far as a prime minister, but the only opposite of that is in terms of whenever people want to participate. We shouldn't think that was the best way to figure out they should be improving just as much as they want. Okay, Miss Hawk
sorry. I just want to make sure that Mr. Crawford got his questions already answered before I asked mine. I was curious, I did not see in the document here. my feedback and request for the role and responsibilities that DCP is required to provide for APAB and NPUs.
this document is the best practices for NPUs. This is not a document regarding DCPs roles or support for APAB or anything like that. This is the best practices for NPUs.
And so I would just offer to body to consider the part of that is understanding DCPs role enables us to be empowered. We know the limitations of the city, then we know how to be empowered as an NPU and we know how to be empowered as APAB for example, I didn't learn until I came to the board that NPUs are able to set all of their own agendas of course, I'm sure you as chairs know that. I did not as a delegate, I did not. And I go through the same training provided by the NPU university so I would just encourage us to consider the aspect of defining better the city's role in in a way to help us understand our own and not just because of the aspect of NPUs, but to understand how we have and the NPUs are supposed to interact I think a lot of times the city fulfills that role. Whereas if we were better to understand the city's role, I think that they have to better facilitate some of those actions.
And to you, I'm going to say draft that up in just a few words as possible to make that recommendation and give some idea as to how you would like to see that happen.
I shall I did make the request directly to Leah
All right, thank you. Hey, Mr. Martin.
Hello, Jim are rushing to your point earlier, the violence in fact, where everybody goes to the officer and extracts
out the foreigners get him to participate in the voting power loss.
code you just not necessarily like to vote for officers because that is dictated by reference
so let's practice that next election.
Okay, I just want to make sure that with regard to a few things that I think is sort of related to Horace question, record keeping information sharing. We know we should have but we're not told how and if DCP is not going to provide us resources that does create a bit of a problem in terms of record keeping information sharing, because it takes one bad year before everything is lost forever and ever and ever. And I know for example, this ties into some other matters, like I was providing a miniature DCP where they go I think TCP for years as far as like that we're just sitting explore ourselves here. But if those were in some outward facing place, it would be good to know if DCP is missing some minutes it would be good to know because I have complete record. I can supplement DCP's in that regard. And then also I'd like to point out that Lucien asking for guidance on how to communicate our decisions to the city, and I think this is important, both in terms of format and in terms of the point of contact, because I myself this past week, spent many hours working about the detail description of why we voted on how to put it on an RV case forwarded to the officer who is in charge at DLR TV, who decided that the best way to do it is not to distribute or to throw trash. So clearly, there were some problems there and me simply communicating that was not fixing that problem.
Historically, Mr. Ross,
man, responsible for I'm sorry, thank you I think that was the question I just wanted to. I don't want you to feel like these minutes are sitting in a shoebox. They are not. Well, they're in a virtual shoebox. And these, just to reiterate, are not required to submit their minutes to DCP we are willing and happy to keep them for him and you set one they don't have the resources to to store their own name to use I'm sorry their own minutes so we do store them. For him to use. We don't publicize them. We hold them and we use them if we receive an open records request for them. That is really our that's our primary purpose for having them but on occasion is really, really helpful. There have been quite a few times that I've had to personally request meetings for whole minutes if we had to answer some random question about something that happened in 2004, or event that just happened a couple of weeks ago. Someone called regarding a special use permit that she believed the MPP supported in 2015 and was looking for minutes for that. So it is helpful to have managed but we don't require you to sign in. That's what we do. I'm happy to consider though posting them on our website. I think I've reported in the past couple of months maybe around March or April I recorded that. We are working on a MP library page that will list all of the bylaws, all of the acronyms all of the resources that it may be members appreciate having all in one place all on one page. I wouldn't be opposed to moving in it's fair to just might be able to go into the system I suppose if we don't have all of them because we don't for sure but
Well, my question would be our agenda.
Would it be possible
if they submitted their previous month's beds that they can be published right under the agenda and listed? Absolutely. That's that's a possibility. Ladies and gentlemen.
Low hanging fruit. That's an easy fix. If we have the minutes we could ask people to label them on on our website under the agenda for sure. I was also going to
use this partnership with the food are very important. And have some water with great staff and often with our money interested to do practice like this, where they can be assessable and those executives will be allowed to maintain those records between five different entities and they already have the staff and the training to do the things that we'll be able to check chance to look at how we partner with the central library. How can we be asked to digitize and use the full library system which is not everyone that dates into the system.
Okay, Mr. Hunter, we're going to ask him he would look into that perfect information back to us. Thank you
to this current problem that he was saying he submitted an opinion or a document at RP that was filed under duress. I don't think that those would be earlier in the interview process. Sometimes failure is in that office as to what is relevant to be forced to the board or not. If this seems like that becomes evidence as to the forms the basis for the LRB being able to determine the voice of the community and finance department.
Well, I think the question becomes, we have provided no guidance as to with whom we should communicate. So what this says is you should tell the city why you did what you did, but the city is not a person. Right? So by trial and error, I have to do stupid if I communicate with certain individuals who are the secretaries and certain boards they will forward that information to the board. I was never told that we're trying to do in the case of Barbie, the only point of contact I'm given is this police officer who seems to be acting as the secretary of that board and that really is not the way to communicate with that. What's the right way? I have no idea
I'm going to so I think I'm sorry Mr. Barr, not miss understood that piece of what you're saying.
So the communication, as in do you want me to fill out a form? How do you how do you want to receive this communication, but also who should I send it
to? Okay, so first,
who is an easy answer? It's your planner or it's my office, either whatever is most convenient, different, at least do it differently. And I try not to change the way people do things if it works. If you're comfortable submitting all of your recommendations to your planner, that's where you submit all your recommendations to if there's something that happens after the meeting, or in between meetings, you can send that to our office that will be routed immediately to the appropriate body show when he gets up for exam so we're BCA we send that to the secretary for BCA okay,
I mean, because I can communicate directly with the secretary to the BCA and it ends up in front of BTS. So we that's what we did
say what are we just saying? Every okay,
but I don't know what you said. So I mean, in the case of PLR pH that who is that person?
I don't know. Currently it starts with Jeremy Thomas Thompson. Okay, he restated that, okay, here's what they said that
sound okay. I won't spend as much time writing up the next time so it'll be easier to throw away.
Just give me one second, I think, would you say is very valid. It's cheap people we were originally constructed to prepare the MRP report, and send it back to that officer whose name appeared on the notice to appear. And so that's what we had done. For years. And of course, sit Daniel, Daniel, or you say I'm planning a copy of the reports that they were also copied on those. I think it does get a bit a little bit confusing. Now that we have a new surge of data here, yeah. We do need something definitive in writing to tell us exactly this is a process for submitting LRP applications. I can identify with it. What you're saying Jim, I have one day we actually did not mind and didn't send it to the army myself because my new instructions would have to send it to my planner and to do that application split through on the consent agenda. There was nothing in my report that should have indicated that it should go to the consent agenda. And then when I questioned it when an officer someone someone's so get this and obviously so and so said this, he so he's right if it needs to be approved or definitive.
I can only say this. And most of you already know this. Daniel does not miss a beat Tyson. What goes into his hands goes to be appropriate for that vote anybody that are in buses. I can only speak from my team and Daniel absolutely rattles Daniel and Kip. Now. Route, every single piece of feedback or anything. Any recommendation that comes from the CPU goes to the appropriate department or source every single time what happens there and I you know, I don't know but what I will say is that if there is a situation where this has happened before, by the way, it's not only your you're not gonna want that experience, and we might have on the consent agenda that should not have been if that happens, let me know if you know about it. Let me personally know like call me or email me directly. And we'll fix that immediately. I'll call add myself if I have to, but we'll get that fix it has happened before because you know, everybody's stupid and humans make mistakes. I've seen that happen. But we can fix that.
Well, if we think we know that Daniel is going to get the stuff out. We know a madman Christo too. I know I can count on him. And I'm sure the rest of them can count on them. And there's also but it's that element
Yeah, there we have it. That's the other thing is that there's always a paper trail always. So if if someone says they need to get something or they whatever, we can always pull up the email where we sent it on our side. So
our divorce attorney was probably the best practice is that we have a process, right that is not working. And we're following the instructions as we're giving them to describe, Madam President. When can you match to that complaint because it doesn't come into play. And so that would be to your office?
Always. Yes. And I think almost every chairperson at one point or another has called me with a complaint. And they know if there was something that we can fix, we fix it every single time. If it is something that we can do. We just want to make it easier for me to cheers periods. So if there's something we could do to make it easier, we'll absolutely do that.
So my question becomes who had to go to the army, division and code examples and it doesn't get fixed. So then we told you before we register with the committee that we're going to what are our options in terms of what we are participating in the process, right, and this is documented. We said hey, what would it feel by your heart, the trash, or how you measure the weather?
So that's a bit of a complex question, but I'm going to answer the best second. When there are a couple of different things that can happen there. One is that it comes to me but understanding that I'm my authority is limited, of course, to my team. My influence is limited to my department. However, it is something that affects the MPU system at large. Of course, I want to know about it so that I can advocate the best way that I can. But also when you bring that to eight, have an AIPAC and then weigh in on that matter formally, the resolution if it's something that affects either all or most of the system, you can start a new wave formally via resolution or some other means of communication. The other thing is that depending on what it is, I think escalated to our department leadership who can then handle it with the peers on that level, and approach it from that angle? LRP is a different kinds of movies because it is it's a far more legal process than some of the other work that we do. And so my influence with MRP is zero, minimum, very, very, very minimal. It's just the most that I could do. Their novels and we have an excellent working relationship with Simon Thompson and with his predecessor, we have a good working relationship there as well. He has done and the chairpersons should know this. He has done quite a bit to try to expand the communication and add to the ending use. He is now he's added shares to his mailing list whereas y'all may remember when LRB resumed its meetings during the pandemic when they started meeting virtually, I learned about it from a newspaper article. I didn't know I wasn't advised. And that meant that the MDU chairs or an advisor. So in time, they added me to their mailing list and I started hating them and forwarding them to their two chairs, and he then decided that he wanted to send them to the teachers themselves. He's also done a couple of other things that escaped my memory right now, to kind of improve the flow of communication between APD and the deputy chairs. I said that to say that it's my experience thus far, that he is open to doing what he can do.
As a member of the LRP and the representative way back on that. If there's any issues, you guys, please don't hesitate to reach out to me if there's a pattern on the Consent Agenda, and it was denied by them to you, that needs to be brought to the board's attention, because we assume that everything on the on the consent agenda has been approved or recommended to be approved by the MPU there by the community. So if that's not the case, let us know and as they have read here, let me know. And right up to the to the meeting, we will pull that from the consent agenda, or at least I'll make their tip their consent agenda for further review. So and because I'm on the board, but a bad board. And I understand that and I take that role seriously.
Thank you, Mr. Lawson. Mr. Winn.
Just second relating to this to Mark's question. It sounded like you said, is there some discretion once those documents are brought to that office? Sure, maybe they should be standard as to whether that officer determines if it's relevant or not, is that
what I just heard which which is the case at all that and again, that either had been denied by the MPU therefore, it came before the board. We did not receive Mr. Martin's written correspondence. And I can't, I can't. I can't emphasize enough that whether you have written a written explanation for the vote or not, you have to show up and be able to give us your reasoning in person.
Oh, that could be cured by the fact that on that forum where you check denied, that narrative could be placed in that document. Well, not be discarded. Is that correct?
Yeah, there's only four lines that we will read that as well. But if we don't have someone's representative from the BU in front of us to tell us exactly what they were taking, because you're right, one thing is received in two totally different but every there in person, answer questions. That's the most effective way and I know five o'clock Tuesday afternoon down at City Hall, have to pay for parking and everything else. The second requirement doesn't please me any more than it does the rest of you, but we need you there. We need you there. Because this is just this week. As a matter of fact, the state there was a denial that there was no representation from them to you. We had nothing to go on, other than the check box denied all and they also put in there that at this time, you did not want any additional liquor outlets in their community, which of course gives us nothing to go on. Because we have to make our decision according to the ordinance.
Mr. Boss when you stood up when you stand up to respond to that, or did you have a question?
Actually, I came over from the record and it was that this actually because works but I want to recommend in this best practices to one I don't
I don't want
category to be participation. Number three, avoid prohibiting residents of the diner from participating in the process, as we emphasize, residents, stakeholders, businesses, institutions, anyone over the age of 18 just just because as you know, from maybe the various, some only one homeowners, some don't have nine full time students, that kind of thing. But, of course, our point of view that the T is everything, everyone within MDT whether they work their workplace, study, whatever, as a stakeholder in the process. So I would recommend that you expand on that to the prohibited residents. Avoid prohibited prohibited residents and stakeholders is what I would recommend.
I'm open to that. Mr. Ross. I did want to point out that in the opening statement right above
where just reemphasize all the news got accepted. So
they had to say what I was going to point out is that it says any reference in this document any reference to MP member states, all residents as defined by section six dash 301 machines
do that as well. But I camera get views just to hold this up that way. That's fine. I'm saying we emphasize
and he said don't recognize stakeholders as members. Is that
visible to us that don't recognize Redditors? Can we talk back to
us? That's, that violates the code of ordinances
and that's why I'm suggesting that we get away from
them then on the section six dash 3213 0.9 on small caption of that shouldn't be included here and we're going to publish these as BMP. Finally we get to the final anywhere we make references to the code. Some part of that code should be displayed so because they're not going to go look it up. We want them to know right offhand. This is what that part of a code says that
actually looks like live and when I get this document that section looks like a lot in this document and you were reviewing it because I tried to pull it out. Is that correct? Yeah, we see everybody's not
going to be reviewing it. So it needs to have a little party at first to see some aspect of this compliance.
I wonder if it's a live link and to your point, there may be people that are not reviewing it. Online. I wonder if it would be helpful in the same way that if the US are required, hidden hidden images are required to attach the bylaws I'm sorry, the code of ordinances to their bylaws. Every year we have to remind and used to do that. I wonder if it would be helpful to attach that section of the code to the best practices document as an appendix or something reemphasizing did find references okay, I guess we haven't does section six section 301 to number three.
Okay. And then the next recommendation is in the same section under Hi, this is under free elections. I have number three. It says amendments are presented to the general body that's one month, bylaw amendments, bylaws
Right. I'm sorry, where are you Mr. Mr. Barnes.
I'm there a second on the APU health section. The bylaws review. Number three says it limits Well, I have a suggestion for the bylaws amendments. Okay. And just for clarity, and then coming down to conflict resolution. I'd say this should be a fifth item for disruptive members. And the process for addressing disruptive members. We've all seen seen members who are determined to be heard to have their voice heard, refused to sit down and refuse the meeting, proceed orderly. So how that member is addressed and how that issue is handled. Can can be key to this overall health with the EU as well. So there should be a process within the bylaws on how to address these these members.
When she first started, she said that when you get to conflict resolution, that this session is by no means we should definitely need your recommendations on this. So we jot those down and give those recommendations on conflict resolution or conflict management. send those to us so that we can pull out some of that information that you have. We have to descend into
disruptive members that you need to add on from that removal of disruptive members,
whatever whatever the process is to address disruptive and the reason for this removal or I'm just said I pick a section to be more specifically addressing what the best practices
to patients. Ross please jot those down single street
and anyone else as well on this thing that it should be included that night. Thank you, Milo.
We're going to take out Naomi just came up never take the only deputy view and so we're going to move on to the camera.
Do you ever find yourself on your account? It's a reminder so thanks for all the work that you've been doing on us. My first comment was wondering if you have health fee participation. Third was mentioned in different ways where people can kind of understand the college period process and I thought maybe it's helpful that a recommendation for best practice is either to have a resource or an announcement at the beginning of the meeting on how the best and the most efficiently engaged in meetings. Once that
sort of landed somewhere in the landing page information.
Yeah, just so maybe a bit of you at the start of their meeting. They have an announcement like you are welcome to comment on I noticed we have a time limit of this and just have you in fact right now are announcing the beginning. So we meet next just to make it clear for people how to most effectively participate.
So we have something similar I think we probably have to edit it a bit to reflect what you're sitting under. Meetings, actually three meetings. A number two, and two MPs begin each general body meeting by informing the body voting eligibility and the participation rules or time limits and maybe those reminders throughout the meeting that it's yes, so we could add to that. Something around how to most effectively engage that's that's perfect.
My next so moving on to G education and training. I know number one over here it says MPs may encourage elected officers to attend those trainings. But if it's a best practice, practice with these trainings are what is going to really help them to be the best and most effective participants maybe requiring within a certain timeframe but a lot of members that type of zoning fundamentals and then view one on one as disorganization then the next one I'm going to communications excuse me,
you went to that so fast. I think we all this download give us definitely the same thing
that you or someone said in the committee that and so I actually would like it. If you all don't mind. I would love to get the temperature of that recommendation from the body. Let's do that. I know whether we should actually do that because now I've heard it from three people and not just two are not just one. If that's something that AIPAC as a whole would like to see in this document.
Didn't quite get it. We're on our education. There's only education and training gap. There's only one thing and he said in the US may encourage elected officers appointed officers and other members to participate in getting educational opportunities to ride around the city of Atlanta, especially zoning fundamentals and NPU one on one, I think I was the one that made the recommendation in the executive committee that I felt it should say that APU, elected officials, appointed officers and other members shouldn't be asked to participate. Not in errors, but the chair should ask them to participate. There are a number of how many numbers there are both the in university courses. And there was one yes Thursday evening that I was supposed to attend, but I couldn't have a meeting. A call to let Samantha know she said 120 people have registered so well. I think this Thank you. This is what they always say that this needs to be more definitive. And the word encourage you did not make me feel good. I wanted to see should and I think that's when Leah indicated that it originally was she that there was some fee pushback on it from her department. So what Lena is asking now is how do you feel about it? I think that in order to be an effective leader, or NPU whether you're the chair, you're the vice chair Secretary parliamentarian delegate alternate in order to be an effective leader for your APU to be informed to bring the information back to the APU. You should be attending the APU university courses not all because as you said they're very nominal but there are some that's the Secondly, I think elected officers and appointed officers should be attended. That's my personal feeling. This is what I've disseminated to my APU corrected that's what you're pretty much asking.
Yeah, more like shall but just you know,
she will say of course, was something more definitive, encouraging, does not say to me that this is something you're supposed to be doing. And Lee and I agree that it should be a little bit more but keep in mind, these are best practices, and they're not definitive instructions to the bad news. So tell us tell us what you think about this. Should this be a more definitive statement removing the working group encouraged to shoot shell or something along that line?
So is it possible as a witness with synthesize that I kind of like having to do with get the 10 committee meetings with the biologists before because my concern is that lets me make it more strong and much more strong than what becomes the consequence if you've done.
So, there is no consequence for not adhering to any of these practices except where there is an actual violation. of the Code. If these are just to miss Phillips point. These are just best practices. They are it's not an ordinance. It's not a requirement. It's not a proposed amendment to the code or anything like that. It is simply documenting that these are some of the things that we do that we think are a really really, really good idea. I am not opposed to changing the language in that item to say that we use they require elected officers. We can't say shall will or must, because these are best practices. It's not a directive. But we can say may require. And keep in mind the MPU still has the option to do so or not to so in terms of incentivizing we have experimented with that it was very well received so far. We this year for the first time, we added an additional $1,500 training incentive to the community impact grant for NVQs whose officers have participated in I believe three classes that could be wrong with the chair orientation was one the first the introductory parliamentary procedures class was one
and the secretaries in
our area have elected officers training. Yeah, so those three classes for MPs I participated in those classes. They were eligible for $1,500 training incentive in their community impact grant. It worked well.
There we are the spirit of the army.
So my only concern is that is right now, so let's practice. But also I believe that this is a start to watch. Don't watch in terms of reviewing some of the things that could be codified because let's find out the code and create a path that states that there's only this stranger that you know, if there could be other people signed right or or led to conflict from counsel as well as Companies Office that hasn't been covered.
So in your recommendation is that it shouldn't be clarified.
But I'm saying that I think this is a great idea. This is good stuff. And he went to the synthesize instead of making it so strong representatives, that it comes with tension and because of different erasing on this crisis, and best practices can lead to low practice.
And I agree, I think what I'm hearing is that the spirit of all the best practices is a mandatory language but the goodwill of what would be an effective organization. I think what I'm hearing from see is the rep that some of these practices can be codified under bylaws. If your organization feels strongly enough that folks representing them should attend and be trained in certain classes. Then you can make that language mandatory I think in this one I thought we went with the language of strongly encouraged I think the word strong. But that was the spirit of that. This is a good faith effort to shore up all of these issues with hopes that folks will act in good faith and approach these best practices.
I like the terminology they require. Okay. And then that leaves it up to the interviewer to make that final decision. It's not like they're being forced to but if you are elected officer or appointed Officer, your chair can ask you to attend the AP university course that is accurate to the job that you're doing in your NPU I don't see anything wrong with that. Keep in mind people we are responsible for all of the citizens in the city, keeping them apprised of what's happening in their communities, seeking their thoughts and ideas, their grievances and whatever else. You can't do that if you don't have the proper training, and I've said it on numerous if you university courses, some are repeating because you're going back here to here, but it helps you to understand what you need to be communicating and that's what we're looking for.
But I think this is what matters. If it's not for the bylaws and discretionary and you want it to be more of a requirement. It has to be compromise the word, enforceable process which would be the Bible is one thing, not the ordinance, but certainly within any given organization. Can you say to anyone wanting to sit in that role that this is required?
Okay. All right. Thank you, somebody from the audience. Tell him When do you think ally pay require you got some other suggestions here? Or it? Would that be too strong? I prefer you What do you make in a room? What's your full resume recommendation?
It sounds good. It makes it clear. Okay. The candidate required
Okay. I heard somebody Okay. Would you like me? Please?
I understand the intent of may require and I think that that sounds good and it's made with intense me the aspect of educating. I hear machine though, as incentivize again, is probably going to be most effective. And to leave point. I fear that may require within become an aspect of using bylaws or a requirement to preclude people from serving in a certain way or we're moving them in a certain way is that you're not meeting those requirements. So that is my only the consequences that language in practice. Alright, thank you.
I believe, I think we should say that they require I think that needs to be a requirement because I think it's also something that is a federal service, right? Like it should be in your Bibles that when you decide workers or businesses something that is required as a leader
but that's the best practice. They say they require is the fire maker. Why
did they get it they only or
I just have a couple other minor comments under communications, a information sharing. Number four says meeting agendas are provided and made easily accessible to the public. So I'm going to just expand that meeting agendas, presentations of documents made minutes or recordings are provided. And again, since this is just the recommendation best practices, they may not necessarily do that. But let's really emphasize that they shouldn't be providing all these resources to the public. And remember me record keeping I know we have another section that talks about bylaws, but I'm not sure if we should do somewhere in here what to do with the revised bylaws if they submit them to the NPU departments or not where that goes from there. And then I picked my last day because I was curious where on the website is the link for people to comment on these
practices? I was trying to find it I didn't have the link. I could not on the city's website. Where it is but I can email it out to you also that you don't have like so much. Yes, ma'am. And I'm jotting down your other suggestions. The one about presentations, documents, minutes and recordings was actually feedback that I've received as well and I failed to mention it today. So thank you for that.
Thank you. Hello, just want to come up again.
One thing I wanted to add to the bear require shot apart discussion. From a document design standpoint, you might want to look at the parallel structure in this each of the each of the individual items should be formatted more or less the same way and that's just good document design. And I think that just in and of itself might very well take care of me versus shop.
Agreed Thank you, and I may disclose to us items that looks like you don't have any other questions before you move on. If I mean I want to reiterate, which I've said before, but I attended MPU H's meeting last week and the feedback that I got there led me to really really want to reiterate this as often as I have to this initiative as I understand it is not a precursor to any reform or any attempt to amend the code in any way. I have had quite a few conversations with councilmember Amos on this and there has not been any indication whatsoever that that is his intention or that that is what was driving his request for this work. I'm pretty clear on what is driving his request. For this work and is not intended to be a precursor to any reform or or any major changes in the system or Cardamine anything that is not what is expected to come out of this at all and I really wanted to reiterate that because people get nervous and I don't want people nervous or something that's not true. So I really wanted to see that on the record. And then the other the only other thing that I want to say is I wanted to update you all on the Bill of Rights. I have a personal family emergency this week and did not get a chance to send it out in advance. But I'm hoping sending the members of AIPAC a draft or I'll send it to the President and we'll send it out with the corresponding secretary who sent it out. A draft of the MPU members Bill of Rights our team worked exhaustively on that document. I am proud of it and I think that it will be well received by all of you, but just one of the best practices open to feedback open to your input, etc. We'll figure out what we do with it after hearing from you. Thank you so very much. Thank you.
All right. Just been notified that Mr. Anthony Nunn has joined us. Mr. Knab Do you want to come up to the mic please? Mr. Knight, as I said earlier, is the project manager for DCP office of design Historic Preservation studio. Madam Chairwoman
do their predictions for the new revisions
Oh yes. The presentation was derived from two minutes and then we'll take a few questions
after that. Iran.
Just to be clear, this also includes the LGBTQ historic context in
various quarters and I want to first start by apologizing for arriving a little late. I'm not accustomed to driving. on a Saturday morning, it's like hitting my hands every day. I'm the African American Heritage coordinator in historic preservation studio. It's a pleasure to be here with me today. We're going to talk just a little bit about the LGBTQ historic context statement. And this is a really taxing out the presentation that we'll go through very briefly. I want to first begin by saying that this context statement work comes out of our future places project. And you can learn more about the future places project if you don't already know by following the website that's included in the document that I handed out, but I want to just start by reading a little bit about the future places project is from the website. The future places Project is an effort to ensure that America is well positioned to champion and enact a wide range of historic preservation related initiatives for years to come. This project that addresses all the existing elements of the city's historic preservation program, through extensive research, comparative analysis, and public outreach and education. It also identifies potential new ideas and potential and programs for the stage pursued related to its history, communities, special places, and culture. As a part of this, future places project actually becomes my position. I have only been in this position three months and this is the first African American historical coordinator is talking about the patient coordinator for the city of Atlanta. And so my work actually comes out of this project. Also that what comes out of this project is our initiative for the LGBTQ community. And it just flipped through the document. It gives you information about what historic context statement is basically a tool to help assess this towards nificant of places that matter to the community and potential preservation. efforts. And so, for the city of Atlanta, this in addition to African American history and culture, the history and culture of the LGBTQ community is equally important. So we have been conducting these kinds of against talks with various NVQs and maybe some of your views have had one of my colleagues leave one of these conversations to kind of not only inform the citizens and the MPs about what our office is doing with regard to LGBTQ community history, and culture, but also to solicit your participation and solicit participation from your constituents. We'll focus on the next slide, so to speak, this historic context statement will focus on LGBTQ plus rights movement since the mid 1900s. In one of the lessons, sorry, one of the talks that we gave with the EU there was a gentleman who made a comment about Atlanta today. You know, why is this important? Because Atlanta, as it is today, is very open to accepting LGBTQ plus activities and respecting all of the rest. But we had to remind him that this project is not only about Atlanta today, but it's about how the LGBTQ community had to engage with the city and some of the challenges they may have faced prior to what we know that they wanted to eat today and even though Atlanta is what most might consider to be open today, it's certainly not as open as other cities around the country. For example, New York versus Rob originally from Atlanta is a little bit behind and in many ways with regard to the LGBT community. So while we certainly recognize and praise Atlanta for its work toward this effort today, we have to remember that the history and the culture didn't just start with the Atlanta we know today
of some of this effort over by the city of Atlanta, and the State Historic Preservation Office. With the following steps the first step in a concerted effort to recognize and preserve these spaces. It's needed guidance on the identification and evaluation of LGBTQ plus historic sites have also been the basis for the nomination of significant places and their association with LGBTQ plus whites and culture to the state of Georgia and the National registers of Historic Places. And it's a guidance for the city of Atlanta and protect these sites through the city's historic preservation ordinance. So I would just like to encourage you all if you have not of individuals who might be able to help us identify sites, spaces, places that are relevant to the LGBTQ community, we ask that you please let us know. Also, if there are individuals that we need to interview, we have a very active oral history project underway with my colleague Susan COVID. So we will start with how to get their stories on record. And so please contact us. Links are here in the document that you can go to, because we really are working hard to get as much information as we as we can. I think the timeline for us to finish all of this is in December, so we don't have many months left. And we are particularly focusing on on Vietnam, particularly but we're also we're deeply interested in trans culture and history and African American and other people of color, history and their cultures as LGBTQ. As it relates to the LGBTQ plus community.
I don't know. Once all of this information has been collected, clear within the house.
Of course you asked me where we have my director, actually, I'm standing in for him today he's on vacation, but if you'd like I can find that out. When I get back to the office on Wednesday, and let you know that she
just asked her to let us know what is going to be housed in one of the existing museums throughout the city or will there be a special building or hearing
dedicated to that? And I will find out I'm not sure that's what's going to be the end result. I think more than anything is going to help it help us be able to designate sites and properties that might be of value to the LGBTQ community but I'm not sure it will end up and museum or anything like that. I will find out.
Okay, do have questions for our mystery man. Just please come to the night because I kept tapping the camera.
Thank you for sharing, but you can't refuse on all the sites that you're talking about this security to
keep it short. So I don't know all of the sites that I know just in the last. Literally in the last two weeks. I've had an opportunity to speak with a couple of African American folks who are part of the LGBTQ plus community and they were telling me about his a strip mall. I think it's on Joseph Boone. That back in the 80s was a club that folks black gay men play to and now it's his strip mall and various stores. And so there are sites like that that to the average person driving by I would have never known that if I did not have this conversation with this gentleman, literally in the last two weeks. So there are sites there are places where the LGBTQ community needs that has, you know, eggs out those the cloud maybe has, I don't know meetings or whatever. And so we want to make sure that we are documenting that history and preserving those spaces. As we might preserve any space of cultural or historic importance in the city. Does that answer your question? I was
confused by meeting as a formula. Those places have been targeted to reclaim or the significance. So I won't belabor that I'm trying to
get it. So I don't I don't think it's an effort to quote unquote, reclaim anything. I think that it's an effort to what I understand all Historic Preservation to be an effort to preserve the historic culture of a community. And so I don't know if that will end up in a locker. I don't know if that will end up being a designation through the city or designation through your state or the federal government. But I don't believe it's an effort to reclaim anything. I'm not sure I understand it. Okay, thank you.
Mr. Martin up again, I'm wondering, does the city have the authority and the mechanism to preserve existing structures that are designated as such under this program, or are we just talking about putting up a plaque in the parking lot of a Walmart staying what used to be here
Mr. nicaise is way over this.
Well, there is a little over my paygrade but I don't I'm not sure how to answer that. The city does have the circuit Integration Office, as I'm sure you all know, does have the ability to designate properties as historic properties. And so I do believe that part of this effort is to when we can designate properties as historic. Similarly, there are properties in the city that at one point, what are the sights of African American or other activities related to other cultures that have been designated? And so this is an effort in and if there if there shouldn't be a plaque out of Walmart, that used to be the location of the site important to the LGBTQ community? That I'm sure we want to put a plaque there is all
of your questions.
I'm just curious if you are working with liberal colleges, I'm gonna correct with that is that I would think that our alumni base would be very interested in
helping you in this project, as well as Morehouse Spellman, etc.
Here. Are you also working with store court preserve these oral histories with the Library of Congress? Yes. Okay. So
we are not working the story of quantum but we know a little while, but my colleague Suzanne COVID is actually the one doing all the questions. At some point I actually made the recommendation that we do engage story core on not only for this project of projects on which we might be working on, we'd say, I'm certainly aware of that. And I've not, I don't have any convention right now at this college. But if you have a connection that you'd like to share with me, I certainly will do that. We're actually going to I do have work connections at the AU center. And so we're going to be working with all of the local schools when they get back in session to share this information about our project and to get them involved as well. So yes,
again, the question is how much savings coming to bring us that information. And we look forward to seeing what you all come up with.
So thank you so much
to your field. Okay. repository. I just want to go
we had three resolutions on today's agenda. They were on your agenda for the June 18 meeting, as they were their first read. They haven't been resend to you, each of you at least twice. And they were attached to the notice about today's meeting. Also they should you should have copies in our front. So without further ado, I'm going to ask Mr. Martin or someone from the cdhs when used
to come up and
let's discuss these determinations as to whether they want us to date or is there some additional information that you all desire?
Okay. Jim Martin, again, first of three resolutions is are trying to apply. We had some discussion on this last month but it was calling for this for the city and various ways to explicitly prohibit gas stations and MRC one zoning districts. It's pretty clear from the structure of the code that this was the original intent and also the original interpretation of that code. But the city has moved away from that for reasons that are not clear. I think when we had this discussion last time, two issues were raised. One was with regard to whether or not the gas station is a thriving or proprietary business and that was that we spoke to these concern. I went back over the code there is also
cheaper. One second, we made a promise that we were going to explain our acronyms because we have a viewing audience and they may not know what you're saying what you're displaying. So
MRC is mixed residential and commercial is what we call quality of life something district. So it has three classes and we're seeing one, two and three and MRC one is the least dense among them. So that's this sort of equivalent of c one, which is our lowest density commercial district services designed to encourage mixed use and friendly environment, et cetera, et cetera. Oh, yes, so that the concern that was raised last month was whether a gas station is in fact the tried and true business. Or whether it is all about commerce. I went back and legally code in this regard. Outdoor commerce is prohibited in all FRC districts. So that was really the question of whether it is prohibited only in MRC one or an MRC one, two and three, not whether or not it should be an MRC one and it is perhaps noteworthy is not stated. In the resolution that see one, there is an explicit carve out to the outdoor Congress permission for unnecessary activities in service stations. And then Parvo does not exist in the MRC code, which again speaks to the fact that the original intention code was clearly to prohibit gas stations in MRC one at least. And this was verified in an email on the second of this month from my balance was the commissioner planning at the time this was created. So I can go into the details of exactly what we're calling for these changes and stuff several places to make this prohibition more explicit and clear, so it cannot be interpreted otherwise. Planning staff could simply choose to interpret code along the lines of its original intention. However, this would be problematic since they have been interpreting otherwise since then. And in order to provide fair treatment with loss applicants that change in their action we want to be precipitated by some change in underlying code. So with that, I'll take any questions. My only question
is, is this an arcade resolution given the fact that in the near future, there won't be gas stations, there will be recharging station is a good idea to redefine the intent of this or the subject use or activity as something more
than gas station. So that includes this other activity otherwise, there's a big group of players that put as many recharging electrical current stations as you want.
I don't think you can regard that the code needs to be more forward looking at even just a few years of customer seeing permits with gas stations applied for now. As far as electric charging goes, I see that is being permitted with a host of other uses. So it is not an activity that is in any way unique to service stations whereas he will service appears to be an activity that is unique to service stations although as I stress going on in the past, we would have a service station that doesn't have gas you can't have gas without a service station.
And to memorize this real quick and tomorrow. It may be helpful for a lot of us that you give a real life example that kind of helps put the theory tax units to the genesis of this resolution can you do that?
Sure. This all came about as a result of an applicant for a permit to build a gas station in MRC, one district on campus and road. And that was handled very badly by the city for a variety of reasons. It was It required a special administrative part of minutes that was dealt with in secret number two as a public announcement apart from that, it failed to meet the distance requirements or pretend to do But underlying all of that was the fact that gas stations shouldn't rely on MRC, one district to begin with. So that the fact that this application move forward was problematic. And in the discussion of planners about that was when it came out that this hadn't been the intention of MRC one zoning and in reviewing the code, it's obviously his intention and MRC one zoning. So the question is how do we fix this excellent flaw and the way that extra monitors and that was the genesis of this resolution. Mr. Ross I'm just
trying to get clarification. There are two questions. One, we're asking the city council to amend the current ordinance regarding MRC one I guess they just call that loophole. And two, and Alia is here for planning and analysis would be different requirements. But is there any compensation or any feedback from finding?
An answer to your verse. Yes, we're asking for text. And as your seconds
I don't have any comments or feedback from planning on that. But I could ask Miss Holmes, the Director of the Office of showing and development if there is any feedback, any additional feedback from the Department of City Planning that I could share with you all. I'm happy to do that obviously it would be a little late but Tirpitz
interpreting? Well, we're not asking them to interpret something different. We wish they had interpreted something. Once they have gone down the road of interpreting something in a certain way they've set precedent that they are then watching themselves to follow so we're asking them to change the code so that they have a reason to do what we're asking them to do really well, I think we would want some reasonable assurances that these changes were made like staff would find yet another bizarre interpretation of cash stations have been 16. Whereas in whatever Action Council would take, undoubtedly state exactly that would be awfully hard for us to read up
Do we have a three Councilman attached to this piece of resolution or do we have someone at City Council resolution that said
we don't get asked again. So it's not our position. But you would certainly want to explore that.
That sounds like a belt. That isn't
was that the extent of your questions, Mr. Ross? Questions comes to mind now if you don't understand the resolution, this is the first time I've done this. But we need to know if you don't quite understand the resolution. Just raise your hand over so we can see if we don't quite understand okay. All right. All right. So we are working. And that's understandable. This is Mr. Carpet. This is your first time being here, right?
Yes, but eventually it just turned dragging stations in the neighborhood as the prohibited
Sorry, no. We're looking to explicitly prohibit gas stations in a particular zoning district never seen one. And we're the bit about driving is essentially the rationale for why we were part of the rationale for why we are asking you to do that. And we're asking for it to be x plus two because currently is implicit prohibition is not being forced. In fact, gas stations are being permitted in MRC.
Right. Okay. You've heard the installation of our 22 Dash 005. It comes from committee so it does not be a motion, just a vote. So we're going to do a roll call vote on all three of the resolutions. So as we call you're in, can you Would you please give us a game or day in terms of how you're voting? Or if you're abstaining? Please state your name and then say yes, state your name and say no state your name and say abstain. Whichever way you want to go on this.
All right, there's a motion on committee to approve the resolution. Resolution calling for the city. When it comes to microphones on section 60 pedestrian fortress this is where it gets patients in Mrs. One zoning district
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thank you so much. So, the resolution 22 05 will be processed and sent to GCP for submission to each city council or at least 22 offices.
So, resolution 2.0 6.07 are interrelated. Trying to explain these relationships first before going into 2007 Particularly, we are approaching our major zoning requirements and the current stage of development in our city. is such that there are many properties that are being
used for a form
that is not conforming to their current zoning. And so, the question then becomes, what will happen in the future when their current zoning the underlying zoning is changed? And it pertains both to if that change is made in order to address the existing forms of non conforming, or if that change is made and the making of that change masks the fact that the existing state is non conforming and those are the two separate resolutions. Okay, so the first one, which we what we refer to as existing legal non conformance. So this would be a milk form that was built at a time that was permitted on the site. And then later there's something or the zoning strictures were changed. So that became prohibitive, that makes it a grandfathered, legal non conforming. And the issue here is sort of twofold. One we may find this particular use or this particular form as an exist just fine but the fact that we find it interesting find does not necessarily mean that we would like to permit its replication without some reasonable controls. Because part of the reason why we may find it just fine is the fact that it is non conforming use and being a non conforming use vest certain valid into the holder of that next superuser example I'm gonna cite my own neighborhood is that we have quite a few duplexes and a neighborhood that is zoned for single family residential. And that result of that occurred during the time I was living here. And the net result of that has not been the loss of any duplexes but has rather been a notable improvement in the maintenance of those duplexes. So if we were then to say that those duplexes are not going to sell as problematic, and you should revert to the old permissions, our concern would be that we would then revert to the old problems along with it. So, other similar examples can become both inform and use. But what we are asking the city to do is to recognize the value of existing non conforming use that is created by virtue of their nonconformity, and to consider means other than universal prohibition. Or a universal permissions, where we believe that these uses might be recently replicated, such as, for example, special use permits or special administrative permits, or I can't simply go out and do something I have to first ask for permission to do it. And there will be reasonable review without permission but I have not explicitly and forever, we're heavy, or we may simply keep the existing prohibition and live with the status quo, which is also in many cases, not problematic. So that's essentially what the resolution calls for, I think, and I don't recall if it was this resolution, or the other, but when we discussed this last month, there were some questions raised about the verbiage. And I had suggested at that time that anyone who had a problem with the way things were phrased that attended the committee meeting, where we could do additional wordsmithing because I didn't think it was appropriate for the full body to do that. And none of us raised those issues intended to be being sacred get to get back in exactly the same form that you saw last
0607 kind of work hand in hand. Do you want us to vote on these together? Why do you need to vote on them said
we can do it either way. I haven't explained 06 yet. I don't like to place your seven okay. If you'd like me to explain sure six as well I can do that. Okay, and then we can either boil it together or individually as you see fit.
Why don't you go ahead and explain to six and that way we can vote on two together. Okay,
so 06 was originally and titled A resolution addressing illegal mining properties, and we changed that. Now it clearly addresses existing non conformities. And the motivation for it, however, is with regard to doing wonderful things, which is to say something that was built that was never properly permitted. A use that was never properly permitted or a form that was never properly permitted. But nonetheless, it currently exists. And those of us who've been in the system for a while understand that nobody is going to come in and force yourself to code against it because we do zoning enforcement See, so there it sits. It's a problem. It's quite a nuisance, but there it sits. And the concern is if we now change the zoning code, such that the fact that it was originally created illegally is obscured by the change in the zoning code, so that any officer comes out to enforce zoning against it in the future, if that ever happens, won't be able to say, Oh, well, this predates the current zoning code. Therefore, it's grandfathered. Therefore, I'm not going to do any better. So by creating this database that says this use existed at the time that the zoning code was changed. We now can say, Oh, this was a grandfathered, legal non conforming versus this was illegal non conforming and in the cases where we have illegal non conformities we have a mechanism to directly go in and say now we can enforce those things whether you do enforce that or not as as that was a topic of a different a different resolution conference. We don't want to create any roadblocks to zoning enforcement, which already seems to be very difficult. So that is what the second resolution oh six is about and it's essentially calling for this database of existing non conformities both legal and illegal to be created. So that we can then represent the future. Do you have any questions for Mr. Mr. Mr. Brown?
on double oh seven even though the now there for paragraph says I think still got real problems in the construction. And it's really hard to read and get what the intent is. I do think that you should pass this the way it is just so we can get it down the road.
Thank you. Hi, Naomi Siodmak with MPU N. I just had a comment on 06. I just think it's a big ask. And I'm not sure that asked me to have a map or a document of all the non conforming uses is going to get to what we're targeting of illegal non conforming uses. So I will definitely just vote on it separately. So I could have different actions for each thanks.
I believe that both of these have been American would like to pass my support for that. So
from a procedural standpoint, and the differences in how many I think we should vote on separately, because as we have stated in our MP best practices, we would like to record dissenting votes and we wouldn't want to force her into a situation where she has to update and have both new family
she's indicated she has that concern for themselves. I'm writing again this these two resolutions have come out of committee, which means we do not require a motion. So we're going to turn it over to the parliamentarian for him to take a roll call vote. We have a
resolution to our committees that does not require a second research organization recognizing the value existing legal non conforming use. This is resolution 22 Dec 007. You mean Yes. To b2c? And indeed as you yes we can gene Ah yes. Yes. And then j the UK? Yes. Yes. Yes. Have you been just coming in June? Yes. You are. Yes. company is having to MBU V and the W X Y Yes. Y yes. Yes.
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as you can write thank you so very much the presentation assets
and then we'll get these
over to DCP for submission to the city council. Morning taskforce reports. Do we have any of our board appointees present
we're gonna make a report Mr. Ross with Harvey. And this case, Stevens is our leader. Okay. Kate is the AIPAC appointee to Maytag three and for those of you at home, that is the alcohol Technical Advisory Board. And the purpose is to review the MRV current rules and regulations and make recommendations. I wanted to talk
a little bit as you all know, we've been meeting for several months now. We're meeting on a cadence of once every three weeks and there will be a meeting this week. On Wednesday at 530. I believe me, the committee wanted to hear at City Hall. But what I really wanted to speak about because we had kind of an extensive conversation about alcohol licensing and the LRP. And I wanted to point out that we had some overlap between how the MP us interact and what the process is for the US. But then we also had a conversation about what happens with the LRB between Atlanta Police Department and the LRB and that is something that the NVQs and Department of City Planning can impact don't control. But that is the job of what this group is trying to do. Our mission is to look at the alcohol licensing system within the city of Atlanta to identify areas for improvement. And one of the things that we expect to come out of this is very clearly documented processes and procedures for what happens with our recommendations. When they go to APD what APD does what most clrv And then what the LRB can or cannot do with that. So there's very clearly documented. We've all had the experience, where we make a recommendation, we go to the effort, as Mr. Martin did, of giving a very detailed analysis of why don't we make that recommendation, and that seems to just go into a black hole. This is what we're trying to address. In that principle. We're also looking at how we can improve the application process, how we can make it work for the business owners and the folks in the industry. And so those are our goals. When things happen, like what happened with you GM sleeves both President Phillips and I are on that committee give us those details. Because we need that input to go back into our discussions about where things are breaking down, so that we can talk about how we need to do things differently. And so if we can get those processes documented, so that we have something that's we can rely on that's consistent every time we go through the process. One of the other things that we've really helped come out of this whole process we've been talking about a lot. Right now we have a POC process that's mostly on paper a little bit as automated, none of it very well. And we want to develop a completely digital system. So that everyone whether it's the business owner, the LRB, an MP chair or the general public, can go online and figure out what is going on with a particular application with a particular license, and so forth. So, you know, that's a big project that we're working on. It's frustrating and we can't fix it right away. But it is our goal by the end of the year to have very clear documentation of our recommendations to have a legislation proposed so that we can move on and start making changes to the system does it make
any questions for the state?
Several questions. Does the mayor the mayor, override the decision of the LLP and if so isn't that a giant black holes and everything?
Well, it is correct that as as the code is written now, the final decision is up to the mayor. I guess it depends on who's Mayor whether that's a black hole or wrong and the way that we address that is to elect a mayor that is responsive to the community.
Moving on the questions. Okay, one last question. Just kind of piggybacking us to Ross question can be really well, last question. Just to piggyback on Mr. Ross question. Seems like could we get there the rationale for denial when there's been a finding against the applicant coming from the LRP way did the mayor decides to go and sign up during the process for the beer, again, writing the rationale for not adhering not again, the LRP at the evidentiary hearings the trier of fact I think a reasonable person not here to refer to that certain processes that they're giving us a response as to why they use certain information, so to speak or recommendation of the
LRP that's certainly a recommendation that that we can take a look at. Keep in mind, the LRB makes a recommendation. It's only a recommendation. And there are others that will still try to influence it's not like it's done at that point. Because there are others that will still try to influence the mayor, the business owner, the attorneys for the business owner, the MPU. You know we have a while even if the LRB agrees with us. We still communicate with the mayor and make our case directly to the mayor. So we can certainly look at that. requesting that by the mayor that to get feedback on why he did or didn't agree with the other way. But just to be clear that the LRVs and sort of the only input to their
its recommendation, but it is the body that takes the evidence and here's the distinction.
That's absolutely correct. But it's not the only body that influences his decision or her decision. Then
thank you Mr. Chopra.
back and share our two minute video camera. This is really not a question as more of a statement or an opportunity. But there's power can be a curse for blessing in some instances where people exercise his power that works from the overall commitment to the community. In some instances it may work to the financials sector or the community and in an environment not having that power possibly lose as citizens and final appeal. And likewise for business community. A final appeal. For example, when we deal with zoning boards, and this is most recently from planning the community and we voted on admission 160 And now they are claiming software passed and still be in voting areas now. And it's about mistakes. Some of them are coming from me and it almost appears like planning does not listen to a community and was actually mindfulness towards the relevant all of the indicators are that it was not recording or pointers, multiple family units next to single family which rezone single family while they wait for the process and they're in the process of getting all of that changed. The bottom line is that last appeal will probably be the mayor in terms of times stop pressing development. So I think the banks are very good process by which we have to find a payment. So let me
make sure maybe not because we went from our meeting to think that it would be a good idea at some point in someone's decision to the mayor
was actually asked if Americans have been writing center 9.2 A framework. And what I'm saying is that for a US citizen the average citizen that means of a possible check and balance a new kind of cable and possibly come in numbers to the mayor by way of partition or whatever. And you have a final say so when the investigative applauded does not adhere to community's wishes for the telephone to the common common for to communicate and so on. I handed the baton as a final check and balance. All right.
Okay, good. Any other questions for the students?
Just Just one more point. Okay to bring it back to how about licensing, and the mayor is not actually the final word. There is an appeal process beyond that and obviously can be used don't have the resources to get in Fulton County Superior Court, but it is not uncommon. If the mayor does denied an alcohol application. It is not uncommon for the business owner to appeal that in Fulton County Superior Court. So that's actually the final word.
Thank you so very much Kenny.
Recent times have heard that Superior Court has been sending those back to the trier of fact which is the RPS to them.
I don't have personal experience with that happening.
That's great. All right. We've set up a few cases that have been referred by as well as superior court for us to review what the applicant does they do not have to go back and forth there for you. So the three assistants that I recall this year and maybe we had one of them that's going to be appointed.
You seen a tool that actually notifies the MPs now that the case has come back from Superior Court
as a purchasing representative get fabricated,
please that will help us tremendously because otherwise we have no way of knowing that case has been said bankruptcy court.
That is the record we're usually talking about box and map. Here's an
example of one that I had was almost two years when the attorneys contacted me and said that it had the
advocate a file a lawsuit
window estate was over and so they did awesome because the lender side with the APU,
or does question usually the reconsideration is based on pending. Usually anytime it was sent for reconsideration on the prior, prior finding, it's based on something new. That's not why they do it.
I mean, look applications are bound by this city code and ordered system which which k and m are now reviewing right. And so basically as long as that does not have a criminal history, or you're rejected for your application before the court says woman you're qualified to build a piggy bank we know value trading.
All right, do we have any other our board this person will receive a written report from any of our abilities.
We came up here to give them ideas. This week you guys Joy Barnes our long standing chair for LRB board LRB resigned and it's no longer the chair. Priscilla Barnes lock is the second longest standing member of the Life Review Board was appointed by the board itself the chair going forward. And so that's what we will be doing and I cannot stress enough the NPU since an applicant with the recognition of denial, we really really need to be out there to give the NPUs and the residents scientists. Thank you
she was asking do we want to do report ACRB But I do want to bring something to the board's attention. I received an email yesterday from the director of the ACRB Regarding our appointment of Dr. Howard to receive A through F. And you know, we've been waiting on this for a while and I was under the impression that it was the background check that was taking of time because there is an official background check. They listen to this done on our appointees for that all but he sent an email yesterday saying that the declaration of education is another aspect of their process and in that process they take the person's resume and the contact education institutions that the personal preferences as having graduated from or attended and those institutions they are, I guess sent a form and the applicant has to sign it for giving them consent to say to those patients within the institutions that or fill out the form and send it back. What's been holding process has been the education institutions have not returned some of the definitions of education. That was the first time I've ever heard about that. I did not know about that process. The last year or 2020 20 will be appointed Dr. Woodard to the ACRB and will be appointed Christie. Christie Peters. I did not get that kind of information or we're not told that that was a process. So that certainly is to whatever this is a new process. But what it didn't say to me yesterday, it really is email is that we we're going to have to be a little bit more selective. I guess particularly with that group and the people that we appoint. That's not to say that you know the average Joe Blow that wants to be on the board. We should not appoint them, but we need to let them know in advance that there is a background check done. And there is a declaration of education that has to vote that has to be processed by the various schools situated. Now I've not seen that same kind of information from any of the other boards to be doing witness. But let me know yesterday that I would have to contact all of those boards and get definitive information on their processes for our appointing advocates. And so, because as I say, I have never been a declaration, the declaration of education. So it is in the process of the completed to just say this process being completed, but that is what the way that
if I may for the ACRB being because the body overseas allegations of police misconduct are what is submitted is what's called the NCIC or GCIC. The National Criminal Investigation to Georgia up until this manager saying the last few appointees that was solely the document or the point of check that was used by that office. I believe that all the agency in ACRB itself initiated this additional confirmation of academic background check so it can I trust that this this is being held up but I think the holdup is because the agency itself, the ACRB whether it's under bigger umbrella new public policy, it is the one that actually executed the tech in the various academic arenas support this.
And he did sit over to the get the email, he cited that section of the ordinance that requires them to do that. Okay. I just have a
question in the process of determining the requirements of board appointments for educational and whatnot. What is the entity that standardizes that or is it each bit to your point, it's each individual board?
is my understanding, that is each individual board based upon the way it's codified ordinances. And so that means that I need to go back and read all of those and we need to find out from those boards what the current result is quite possible that a number that has changes since we made our last appointments to them. So that is something that we're going to have investigate and make sure that we are aware of what we're supposed to be doing. I didn't ask the director if he would send over to us any information that would help us be easier for our appointees to move through their process more smoothly. And so yeah, we had a number of boards that were appointed and to find out whether they have had changes and what their processes are, and then we can make sure that we're selecting people that can meet their obligations. And one
more question for the municipal clerk's office. They are the entities that retains attendance records, minutes, etc. For each of the boards, correct? So would they be the entity also that these boards would need to turn over their educational requirements?
They definitely need to contact Mr. Brown and he should have all of that.
All of a sudden, you can come back with
those directly. I had issues with that, but I just now know that. I would do that in order to feel comfortable. And make sure that we
In order to mature off topic reports and also construct the probabilities then
we have a motion on the floor that we extend the meaning for another thirty minutes and its
territory without its own standalone.
Motion and second, that we extend our meeting for criminal history of today's business. All those in favor, please raise your hand
1212. Posing please raise your hand. All right, I need to say Well, anybody who stayed Okay, we're gonna make this quick. We may not need to have the entire 30 minutes. We're going to go to our committee reports. Their honors committee
indicator chair, folks. Yeah, I raised my hand. Okay.
All right. Thanks a lot. Mr. Kessler,
Colchester bylaws committee chair the bylaws committee didn't need to two adjectives competitor that will be addressed going forward. One related to the nomination and election process and others Mr. Hunter is working on one of the better leadership and I'm working on just as a reminder per the current bylaws a nomination and nominating committee will be appointed in September. The nominations process will be firmed up in October and then the alleged end of February so that's a sense of urgency on any proposed revisions to the nominations and elections process. We will be leaving that date not yet been turned up for trial. Follow that schedule. If you have any recommendations, comments, concerns regarding the vitals, I know that there's some stuff coming out and I will be coming at a time please reach out to me on one of the other community members was under Mr. Ross, and just any questions or comments right now for the last
one independent minutes there were live votes can see what it was actually voted on. And or submitted as potential and then
I will share the agenda. We did not follow the agenda completely. There's modifications to the agenda during the course of the day, as well as the minutes and or the report of the committee as well as according
to someone's contract to suppose contract, what is being put out, you know, just for their own consideration and being written to be able to vote when you know that there will be pressure.
Now the balance committee meeting minutes for attendance to your June meeting others right. Now, it was last month's meeting notice had the minutes of loss committee attached to it of the previous previous meeting, right? So please go back and take a look at those. And so when the next bar was in the committee meets, you have an idea as to what's going on and case on that committee. Meeting this quarter.
Correct. Part of their current bylaws, the Bylaws Committee. Is on support. Thank you so much.
Mr. Martin, did you have a CHS report. Now Mr. Martin cdhs. committed with Boyd is in the package that you received today. This is for a meeting that was held on July 6.
so you've seen that your resolution and we met on July 6 At our regular meeting which is first one didn't want to disappoint our fourth sort of the schedule, kind of regular schedule the next one being a holiday so the first set of physical meeting is listed in the agenda has changed from last bullet is pick a notebook that's at our last meeting in addition to the three resolutions that we brought before you we also discuss resolutions addressing our worst decisions, designated trees as hazardous and posting requirements for applications on properties. Neither of those trade prominent time but hopefully we will have something as an FYI for the spot. That's all. Okay,
thank you so much. Mr. Ross. We have a reporter committee on a pen
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that Norman has returned
to the family, which is why he was away.
So we're back and fully Thompson in the beginning. Again, our guests welcome. You and your family. See our subcommittee of the committee that will address the website align with DCP as well as email accounts, whether various officers and committee chairs based upon that we will come up with the draft recommendations of the Executive Board, which will then be filtered down to the Bylaws Committee. Since some of these protocols are standard operating procedures need to be inserted needs to decide as to how to handle these accounts. And what roles offices will happen and then we'll go through the law for those.
We will offer those recommendations or me okay.
Okay, so look for that to come from us.
Let's see you're also putting still putting together the wall and the wall. The packet has been distributed to the Executive Board, which we're not doing here. This is the LoRa Hawk Commissioner, and so she will share with you what she needs so that this committee can bring it back before the body in office. Sure, still,
when it came to 820 20 as I didn't find that there were a lot of resources that educated us fine educated as members on what exactly the body does. So I have tried to serve said about doing that. And this welcome pack is extra work. Yan is trying to try to achieve that goal. I would love feedback for the membership about what exactly that that might include to you. I have included bylaws. I've also tried to highlight visual representation of the process, sort of what happens within our committees and then Halloween moves on to eventually city council and kind of what process that is so that we can we can see you have some continuity for each entity going forward. And there's there's also some discussion within the body. I think there's often as we see represented here, there's members of us who sit at the Dyess there's the first best person in the body that were heard at the executive board. I tried to go about representing individual representation within the captain, that we all have actually full power that there's not a hierarchy to the committee's. So I would just welcome any feedback really on what that might look like to you what would be meaningful. So that can be shared among our members as a whole so that we do our best how to interact with one another and how we can achieve various things. With the city. Thank you. To transportation
index meeting Madam Chair will be on the
20th of August at 9am Regular City Hall and that does conclude my report.
Thank you Mr. Lyons during the recording this morning.
No way. Okay.
She has been formally introduced to our fiscal agent and they have had correspondence. As it stands now, we still should have roughly the $4,800 in our account with the fiscal agent. And we're going to have to make some kind of decisions soon as to how we're going to spend that money. We need to have a split by December 31. Transportation Mr. Shaw.
Hey, so, one. I know this week I had sent out emails to all of the compute chairs as well as the interviews that have transportation committees, just really inviting them to go ahead and send a repair record their representative to the to a lab so that we can really get our transportation communities going and that representation from all the MPs can be at those meetings. So that email is out this week. So I'm hoping to hear back from most of you can be chairs about who they are representative for the transportation for the transportation committee can be in that email, there was a proposed time there wasn't a time that I was saying we have to go with but there was a protest time also location was embarrassed. So based on feedback from all the I guess members or MP representatives, we'll come up with a good time and location for the transportation committee meetings going forward. The one that I propose was for the first Tuesday of every month. At 8am, which very much aligns with why the Georgia Department of Transportation Margo and also eto, they have their meetings, most of them on the first week of the month and pretty early today. I also want to just say that when it comes to transportation we're really looking at all systems of transportation. So we are looking at our highways and our roads. We're looking at our sidewalks and our paths. We're looking at our buses and our training. So and we're looking at each of those transportation networks individual and seeing how they connect and I only mentioned that because the interview representatives that should be similar could be sent to the AIPAC committee. We want to let them know that there are so many aspects of transportation that they can really be interested in. So it's not just coming to the train station committee because they're really into, let's say buses. And trains by ID but we need representation from all sectors of the transportation system that includes even our airspace network, because there's a lot that's happening right now with advanced Air Mobility where just the in all tribal one on the rebel you're gonna be able to, let's say leave from City Hall on an L A. Hello, Pat Akasaka will resume let's say the true stadium within 15 minutes. So there is that time of traveling that is really beginning to happen right now. So again, when it comes to just sitting reps, let them know that we're really going to be on all forms of transportation all holistically in our city. Right, thank you.
Do you have minutes from this first meeting? I guess it was
yesterday. I had to send out a notice informing them that I was trying to establish
subscribers which means you're going to work from that eight o'clock calm
to different gear so just keep an eye out really indicate a more of a proposal. But I do look forward to feedback from all of the MPU chairs as well as the representatives to figure out what time of the day works best for everyone. All right.
Mr. Brown, the public safety chair is not here today. Miss Keeler Jones, education chair is not here today. And I'm going to just let you all know of God to please keep her and her family in your prayers. She lost her brother died on the seventh was somebody they their son. And so if you like her getting your family roots, he was schools in California as a mother last week and she said they had just been able to get his body back here. So they're having some issues. So Mr. Ross, you have our condolences. And I understand that you do have a verbally not so fast to all this. And also we still do not have a utilities chairperson. So if you know someone who has some form of utilities experience, please ask them to contact us we desperately need a utilities to the person you're seeking you're getting an email from is the channel 20 says things that are happening with Comcast and other utilities. There are some other issues surrounding utilities that are emailing from the meeting that I attended earlier this week. So we desperately need the utilities chairperson. As far as the Executive Committee is concerned, of course, we did have the executive committee meeting this past Saturday. You all received copies. of the agenda and notices about you're interested in joining us is the second Sunday here at City Hall to check for calls Oh, yeah, committee room two. Okay. Now, Miss Liu. Did you have any announcements today?
President Thank you for your local assistant director, the neighborhood manager for the city of Atlanta's Department of City Planning. Our corner conversations series continues with on officers every first Wednesday. We in a different neighborhood across the city this next month will be in in the historic of the Fourth Ward in the NPU M will be at the Maker and Shake social club on the Eastside Trail of the beltline. So please do come on out and chat with us a little bit. Our civic participation for seniors class will be on July 26. And some of you are participating in that on panel or something thank you in advance. We are excited to bring back our appreciation dinner this year should COVID members cooperate we did that for the first time in 2018. And then the pandemic prevented us from appreciating our NPM chairs in 2020 and 2021. But we are hosting that dinner again. In October of this year. I believe the tentative date is October 6, but you'll get a lot more information on that but consider this a save the day. I've heard from a number of the chairs that some of the city departments have been absent from meetings and others have not attempted in a long time. When that happens if and when that happens, please do let me know because if you're not telling me if I'm not there for myself, I won't know and I was really dismayed to learn that especially the way that I learned it. I would much rather hear from you neighborhood planning leaders that certain departments are not participating in more or have not shown up in a while etcetera. We have some conversations scheduled with department leads to talk about that and hopefully get that back on track. Two years later update on it actually came out of this committee at the beginning of the pandemic when we will middle of the pandemic we're hosting the first chairs training update virtually and I believe that bandwidth is Glover but someone sitting up here asked if we could do some gift cards since we couldn't serve breakfast. It took just that long to get it done. But a couple of weeks ago I finally emailed all of you those of you that participated in that 2021 atmosphere 21 chairs training and update. You should have received your gift cards for breakfast. Enjoy the website to miss Naomi's question on the forum where we can submit your feedback for the best practices. That website is MPU Atlanta or forward slash AP best practices as NP with lanta.org forward slash AP best practices and I will send that out as a promise to the President wanting to point out I didn't say this earlier in my presentation but we will be requesting a vote of support from APAB next month for the best practices. I don't really want to present this to cvhs without being able to state that we took a vote at APAB and whatever the outcome might be, like want to be able to present that to see DHS. And last but not least, I am very pleased to announce that we did finally receive our budget when I presented to Executive Committee last Sunday. I had not received it just two days later. I did get our budget for FY 23. I'm pleased to report that Citi has committed a 51% increase in the interview
I was expecting or I was bracing myself for a cut and I am just beside myself excited that we'll be able to do some of the things that I really, really hoped and in some cases committed to doing. So two of those things that I think are of relevance to importance to you. One is that we'll be funding our participation. Outreach Program or where people direct most of the added funds into spreading awareness about the immune system throughout Atlanta. Obviously, I think all of you know that if you pick you know, maybe 20 Random neighbors and ask them about their MPU they probably have no idea what it is. And we want to change that we want to make sure that our lens is no we're also proposing that's gonna take a little bit more than the funding that are currently have what we are proposing a city wide awareness campaign, something that is much bigger than what my very small team can do. And I will be pushing them all year long so that hopefully, when 20 More we'll get funding to do a city wide campaign. Or we'll get a sponsor from another place around the city that can fund that Lastly, we will be able to find the strategic planning by the Atlanta Planning Advisory Board. I'm very happy about that. personally invested in getting your the support that you need to do that strategic plan. So that you
can move forward with the roadmap,
that good stuff. So
this was wonderful, thank you. When she mentioned his strategic planning, that is going to be our official retreat for this year. And we'll give you more information on that when we sit down and work out the details. Do you have any public comments, announcements?
announcement at university on the July 30, from 9am to 2pm. We'll be conducting the course the Atlanta Community Engagement playbook. This book came out like an 18 month project that involves the residents, city department employees as well as the directors on how to find to community engagement with the city of Atlanta and the residents that we work with well that how do we sustain it wasn't working. And this book provides a framework both for residents and their roles and responsibilities and community engagement, as well as filling departments and service providers as far as their roles and responsibilities on community engagement as well. Of course it's Saturday that Intuit will be a hybrid course you can either attend by virtually or in person, you will be dealing with at least five or less. And for those participating in person, lunch
will be served
thank you so much. Mr. Ross.
I'm sorry, I forgot to announce that what Mr. Ross it was an oversight. Apologies.
Thank you Madam Chair. I don't know I didn't come up with like Eric Cameron was going to report on public safety conditions first. Thank you. We held a meeting of the cause of the logistics and it was not an official voting meeting. Why don't we get establish a few items there where we are setting up a format also we're going to pick a chair on the 28th of May making the first official meeting even though we do have a process and that's pretty much all it does seem like it's going to be a very potent entity within the city's public sector
and wanting to shoot. I mean, I'm tall. I'm
excited to get out of form and I don't know the number of actual appointees, but the road was full. Two council members, Waites and Overstreet were there. president. I had very good impact on establishing what we needed to do and how to follow through when I was saying was a was a part of that initial
point. I thank you so very much. I'm sorry. Do we have any other announcements or comments on the
floor? is a scam books on the first Tuesday of August. It's a national event. It's called National Night Out. It's taking place in a lot of our communities here in the city. It's not going to maybe this year my view is not organized the national night out we're going to partner with up Is there anybody differently I think Stephanie was going to set these up. It's over in the Dunbar center but it is an opportunity for Community Fellowship. one on one with APD food vendors ACR reports of our citizens we mourn the loss of habitat table there but try to find a local community whereby you can first and meet the officer something about meeting them, talking to them, giving them their name that makes their jobs a point of contact right our current environment, what is most needed. The third is that community oriented policing is a typical acronym that comes right out of the APB. It's a modified section or about any training or supporting point program. You can get decided to have the five stocks though is set assignment, watch assignment, so So do it. Put it on your calendar for the second of August and see if you could never see preferably in yourself. But if not familiar with the Dunbar Center, where we think that is the main circuit at least in zone three, and part of that I think is so six. So multiple interviews have provided several zones. So this to consider
thank you so much, Mr. Weir. One final announcement. I have not received but if two names from two in the US for the public safety work groups. I'm going to send out another email to all the chairs and orders. We have to have those appointments to this is for the workgroups, our Public Safety Commission. We have to make those appointments. This thing is 12 Oh all together is in the works. I mean that resets and so in zone five of the city you know what the Lord so that gives us five and for each one of those, we have to have three more tips from a bear. So I will send out a reminder email to all of you on Monday. And then I'll just follow up with your cheers to see if you all are able to syphilis the needs of a warranties for those slots. And the only other future slots that we have, of course will be the utilities chair. Christine Peters has resigned from the acrp she represented s AP US s through Z. So we need someone from whatever those can be used to replace her. And when it was discovered something was missing.
We are down to we have more we have this ERP business as citizens review board view allegations of misconduct. So we're down to all the way up to Dr. Howard and we're waiting for this case so hopefully we can use circuit education. So hang on now is the academic institutions. Not getting back to us I think just enough I
don't think we're going to be able to do so. Putting out there that we want to try to do that and without follow the protocol. Yes, this Oh yeah. I
wonder if perhaps the issue with our powers appointment is that one of our degrees is actually a European University. So the communication could
be a little bit strange. He specifically
stated in the email that they were waiting for that form to come back from some of the institutions that she attended, so I'm not sure which ones they might be.
Yeah, I mean, I'm happy to close with you for the ride sharing mindset are up, but I'm not really sure what Tasha
she's been being honest that she had to sign the forms for them to be able to request that information. And she was copied on the email that he sent us yesterday. All right. It is now one o'clock. We excuse me for 30 minutes. That means we need to get out of here.
Grab a chair. Yes. Motion to adjourn.
It hasn't been properly motion and seconded that we adjourn the meeting. All those in favor please say aye. Anybody opposed? Please don't speak. All right, everybody have a wonderful day.