The question is, could we have could we give some pointers on how to manage pain, which is very challenging. First of all, we resonate with you, Bruce, it's everybody has different degrees of pain. One of the things that's really important is to make sure that you're sitting posture that you have everything you want a need to be as stable and as comfortable as you can be, this is not a practice about gritting your teeth and bearing down. We're not giving birth. Well, you're in one sense, but we're not giving actual birth. And what you find this is where really focusing on your practice, whether it's the breath, or, or a koan. If you get really deep into concentration, and you look at the pain instead of, you know, we want to, I think what used to happen for me, and still does is I say, When will this stop? When will they ring that bell, you know, and so then you are now in, all your hormones are ramped up for escaping this, you know, prison that you're in. And so trying to calm yourself down, and by looking at the actual pain, you know, look at it as experience it in the moment, for some amazing reason, it really helps. But it's hard to stay with it because you want to escape it. But once you actually stick with it, I think you'll find that it sort of can go away. In the old days of practice, you couldn't go to a chair either. But now we do have chairs, and you can always go to a chair. And rather than, you know, saying, I can be a warrior, I can do this, it's good to take a break when you need to, and stretching and other things can help. And if all of that fails, then you know, people, especially older people, will will have to take some kind of medication, you know, and that's okay, too. It just may make you a little more sleepy, but it's no, no shame to it. What what do you do to help you with pain?