my name is Tim Vegas from the Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education and you are listening to think inclusive, a show where with every conversation we try to build bridges between families, educators, and disability rights advocates to create a shared understanding of inclusive education and what inclusion looks like in the real world. You can learn more about who we are and what we do at MCI e.org. For this episode, I speak with Ashley Barlow, a special education attorney, advocate and host of the podcast, special education advocacy with Ashley Barlow. In a former life she was a German teacher in Jefferson County Public Schools and Cincinnati Public Schools, having taught nearly every grade from K to 12. Ashley practices statewide in Kentucky and also operates a business to empower and inspire parents and advocates in special education, which can be found at Ashley Barlow. koco.com. She's also the Director of Education at the National Down Syndrome Congress. We did something a little different for this episode. Ashley and I interviewed each other and are posting the scene interview on each of our respective podcasts. Cool, right. We talked about a number of things related to inclusive education, including what does inclusive Ed really mean, as well as using dear colleague letters as a strategy in IEP meetings. Thank you so much for listening. And now my interview with Ashley Barlow.