Can you find love on a podcast? If you tuned into last episode, you heard Ashley going out on a first date. And today we're back for a second attempt to find that special someone.
I'm Talia.
And I'm Becca and welcome to lovestruck daily with love with you. For anyone who wasn't here for our first episode, we are Talia and Becca from three day rule.
We are a personalised matchmaking company, we work one on one with clients. And we get to know them really well. And we set them up with high quality matches.
Hey, Ashley, it's so good to see you again.
Hey, Ashley, good to see you.
Good to see you again.
How was the rest of your trip?
And we got through was so fun. Such a whirlwind. But we made it we're back home in LA. Okay, good.
Well, I'm excited for the date today. But before I get into why we picked David, for you, I wanted to see if you had any lingering thoughts about the date with Jeff, since you've had a few days to digest it?
Yeah, no, I still think that it was really fun. I was thinking about it the other day. And I was like, that was just so much fun. So yeah, those have been kind of just the lingering thoughts. I'm excited to meet Dave today. And we'll see what happens there. But yeah, so far, only good things.
Okay, good. I'd love to hear it.
I am. So looking forward to this next date that you have. He is for sure easy to talk to easy to get along with, which I think is always kind of the baseline of what we're looking for for you, since you are such an outgoing, bubbly, fun personality. So it'll be interesting to see lifestyle wise how you guys match up in just you know, your day to day lives, but also, what you enjoy outside of that.
So Ashley, David is not in LA, he's actually in Pittsburgh. And we've been doing long distance matching a lot, especially in a post lockdown world, so many people can work remotely. So it has been pretty easy to have long distance relationships. So we don't want to limit you to just a 10 mile radius, we want to connect you with who we think could be the best match. So just a heads up that he's not local, but you could still make it work.
That sounds good.
We chose him for you. Because he's a little more introverted, then Jeff, Jeff was extroverted and really talkative. And David has a bit of a different personality. But sometimes we see that one star works really well with a rock, and we think you're a star. So it could be a great balance, we'll see how you feel part of testing is just to see how you feel in different situations with different types of people.
It's always good when you have a connection with someone to continue to date and compare and contrast and see who seems like a fit and who doesn't, what you like what you don't like, that's how we really get to know what we're looking for when we're dating. So I really like David for you. He has a lot of similar qualities and that he is outgoing. He's personable, he's easy to talk to,
just to give you some information about him. Before we jump in. He's 33, he worked in it. And now he's in project management. So he has a good, steady career. He's financially stable. He's athletic and likes playing sports. So like you he leads a healthy, active lifestyle. And also similar to you. He was a bit of a late bloomer when it came to dating. So he had his first relationship in college. And it's been some time since then. But now he's really ready to focus on something serious, and has learned a lot about himself. So just you know, as a reminder, I thought you did an amazing job on the date with Jeff. So still the same be present. You were really engaging, you weren't future thinking, as we talked about, the only thing I thought was missing a little from the date with Jeff was just a tiny bit of like flirting and just showing interest. So I think you can use this state to practice that. It's helpful just to land a second date, and then you can decide later if you actually want that second date. So any questions before we get into the date with David?
No, no questions. Should be fun to try the light flirting. Always don't think I'm good at that. So let's see what happens but yes, I will try to have some kind of follow up. By the time this one wraps up so excited to practice that perfect and
be you your authentic self. So, so excited. That's it well deep We've after the date
pool. Okay, we're going to set the stage for this date. Once again, we've ordered you food. I know this is a virtual date, but let's pretend you are together and cute restaurant enjoying a lovely brunch together. Welcome to the show, David. Hey, can you hear me?
I can hear you.
Nice to meet you. Actually. My name is David. How are you today?
I'm doing great. David. My name is athlete obviously. Yeah, I'm doing great. It's sunny outside. And yeah, I'm here chatting with you about the use of food.
I don't know about yourself. But I'm from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Nice. Yeah, I am in Los Angeles, California in the US right now. Which is funny, because a couple of days ago, I was actually out of the country on vacation. So I live in LA, though. Once you go, I was in the Cayman Islands. So I was there. Just for a couple of days. Yeah, just for a couple days. But yeah, now I'm back in LA.
I just got actually it was last weekend from not as nice as a place as the Cayman Islands. You might have heard of Tulsa, Oklahoma. Oh, yeah,
I think I've heard actually,
you say that but I everytime that will leave the week leading up to it. I was talking to all my friends about it. And like, I already bought the tickets and I knew where I was going. But every time I told my friends, they were like, they the first thing they asked was like wait, Oklahoma, Tulsa. And they kept making me think like, wait to send another one. Did I buy the ticket
or something like that? Yeah. What's your connection out there? Were you just like, Oh, I'm gonna go to Oklahoma.
So to two birds, one stone kind of thing. I went there because I have a friend who was working in Pittsburgh, moved out there. So I decided to meet him. Second bird was I don't know if you know this band. I think they're from Canada. They're called pod rain. I haven't heard of them. Actually, what happened was the Tuesday I actually was looking at like, oh, wait, they're still on tour. Maybe I can see him another place. Lo and behold, they were playing in Tulsa. Then I was reminded Wait, I think my friend lives in Tulsa. So technically, he kind of came second night. Yeah, that was great show. Good to see him again. Unfortunately, there was a heat dome in effect for that week. So it was 100. Up to 104. The entire time it was there. At 10 o'clock at night, it was still 80 plus degrees.
That's just adding to my list of things that makes Oklahoma great. So
to their credit, one off thing. So I still would recommend
still a good weekend city.
Tell me about the kingdom. I imagine that was pretty chill. Very relaxing.
Yeah, it was really fun. Funny enough. I the way that it worked out. I was I'm from North Carolina. So from the East Coast. Originally, I was going back to North Carolina also for a concert. And that concert, we booked it like over a year ago, like when the tickets first came out. And literally a week before my trip, the show that we were going to North Carolina got postponed. And so I was like, whatever. Like I'm still gonna go back like see my friends. And I was like, let me just see how much it would be to go from like North Carolina down to the Cayman Islands and then back to LA cuz flights were flights were insane. It was gonna cost me like $1,200 round trip from LA to North Carolina. And I was like, That just seems ridiculous. So and I used to live in the Cayman Islands. So that's kind of like my connection there. I wasn't just like, oh, random Cayman Islands. So yeah, so it ended up costing me like half the price to go from LA to North Carolina to the Cayman Islands, and then back to LA and so I was like we can we can make that up.
Oh, wow. I'm just feeling jealous.
Hold tight. We're gonna be back in just a moment after this short break
that concert that wasn't in the Cayman Islands that was in North Carolina. Yeah,
the concert was in North Carolina. I don't know when I lived in the Cayman Islands. It was during like the height of COVID. So like all like end of 2020 and like most of 2021. So their borders were pretty strict. So I feel like they're just now starting to get back like concerts and stuff like that. But yeah, that concert was in North Carolina. So then I also was like, oh, like, I'll just like move my dates to when he comes to LA but then the whole tour ended up getting cancelled. And so now no concert.
What was what was the musician? Shawn Mendes? One second, I still got a notification on my phone that is overheating. Oh, I think because of the door. I'm gonna take it out of the case. And I mean it is kind of hot. But
I hate that. I hate that notification as always like, Oh, how, how long have you lived in Pittsburgh?
So I emigrated when I was five or six from Vietnam. My dad followed my uncle who was going to school here. But yeah, I grew up there. After college, the city was seeing growth, sign up, like staying around going to work. And I've just built a small community here and yeah, that's I've stuck around. The only other place that I'm considering moving after this would be little cliche, from what it seems but Portland, actually.
Yeah, I've heard that Portland is super pretty. I haven't been anywhere like above California, like so like Oregon, like Washington anywhere like Pacific Northwest. I haven't been anywhere there. But I have friends that live up that way. And I've heard it's really pretty. I heard that it like is rainy. I don't know if it rains a lot. In Portland.
When I visited Seattle, one of the things that came up, they called it one of the Uber drivers who emigrated or not immigrated, but like transfer there, like, you know, few years ago mentioned something called like the Northwest freeze. Have you heard of that? I haven't now, which is? Yeah, so it was referring to the culture? How like, yeah, everyone has smiling faces on by it's almost like a facade. And not actually as nice it may appear. And I don't know. And I was just curious. Like, I've heard something similar. About just a different culture with like the West Coast. I was just curious, like, what's it like your span span?
Yeah, I would say I, the biggest city, I guess that I had lived in or been a part of before moving to LA was like Charlotte, North Carolina. And I feel like LA is like, it feels to me like Charlotte, like, everyone is pretty nice. Like, I feel like yesterday, honestly, was the first time I was ever around people who maybe were some of that like, oh, like we're being nice, but like, we're not actually nice. And I was at like any event for like influencers and like content creators. Other than that, I feel like everyone's genuinely been pretty nice. And I don't know if I just meet people that aren't from the West Coast who have moved out here. Or if it's people who just have grown up out here, but like, have been lots of places and stuff. But yeah, it really wasn't until yesterday, where I was like, oh, like, these are the people that people think LA is made up of. So that was interesting. Hold on, that was the door. I think it might be my food. So let's see. What did you order? I got, I hop and I got just like, pancakes and eggs and sausage, because that was the first thing that I saw. But yeah, I'm very excited.
Nice. We wait. You said I hope so. You said you're in LA. Right. Correct. Maybe this is more of too much of a generalisation thing, as we were describing with like those kids in Toronto, but like, I would imagine you probably have a wide selection of food. And if everything else here I thought was the go to
I would say in LA and I've only been here for like six months so don't shoot me at this is like a terrible generalisation la people. But I feel like there is food in LA. But it's like, a lot of just like, generic food. Like, it's like, whenever I have friends come to town. It's like, oh, like, where should we go eat? And it's like, okay, there's like these places we can go and it's like, fine food. But it's not like, oh my gosh, like, this is the place that you have to go to like, yeah, there's like a few places like that. But I feel like it's like, overall, it's like, oh, like, yeah, this food is pretty good. But it's not like, oh my gosh, this is like the best food I've ever had in my like, entire life. So there's like definitely a few places where I'm like, oh, people, I definitely have to take them here. This is unique. This is amazing. But then other times I'm like, All right, like this channel do and there was an IHOP like right by where I live. So it was like, Oh, this should be like an easy delivery.
Okay, all right. Well, I mean, you But I'm just very surprised.
Yeah, I'm surrounded by chains where I live. So it's literally like so many chains. And there's like a couple of little local places sprinkled in. But yeah David maybe your phone overheated
My phone's shut down because of overheated. What I'm doing right now, this might be a first I am using my, my freezer. I'm putting my phone. That's why I'm taking the call from now.
Amazing.
Kitchen. So yeah, I'm taking this call from my freezer. Hopefully this
this is amazing. I wish everyone could see this visual right now.
I'm glad I got back in to actually kind of like, bring that back. Have you ever noticed like, I, I have only really, in the past five years got into like, hey, you know, like, I think I do like to travel like go different places. So when I started getting into that more, I started noticing that like, there seems to be a subsection of people who love travelling, but they're like, seemingly doing this for like, I don't know, just like for the Instagram and like stuff like that. And they're going to like pretty Jet Set destinations. Like your Santorini is your like, your parents. And like, and that's fine. I definitely want to go to those places too. But like I always thought like, there's plenty of stuff in my own backyard that I've yet to like actually explore within the US itself per share. And I'm pretty sure no one's like posting crazy stuff about Tulsa. But like, what I was saying, I was like, wow, this is actually pretty good. Like, I don't think I would have thought about that. Otherwise,
yeah, it's like every place has stuff that makes it uniquely beautiful. And like I realised that when I was driving across the country to California, like I drove through, like a lot of pretty random states like rural parts of Texas. And it all was really pretty, like it was also different. But for me like living on the East Coast, and like the beach region for so long, like everything was like flat. So like when I'm like driving through, like, I'm starting to see mountain ranges and like the flat plains of like, Texas, like most people probably would have like clawed their eyes out for two days and driving that but I was like, This is so nice. Like, it's so different. And like, look at these cows and like
exactly like, yeah, oh, speaking of cows, by the way. Well, juxtaposition on that. So we're in America, you know, big cows and stuff like, right? I remember going to Japan, the size different sizes and like serving sizes, it's like night and day. I felt so I shaved like oh man, this is your large and this is our small.
Literally, literally, it was like that in Africa. There was this one, like sandwich shop that we went to like, yeah, I would say we went like once a week because it was like walking distance from where we were staying. And yeah, it was like we'd ordered like a sandwich. And it would come with like some kind of like side like fries or like something like that. And it was a normal portion size. We were all like, Oh, this is so small. And it was like nope, this is just how much we should be eating. Yeah. So yeah, that was a fun, eye opening experience. And then when I came back to America after that, I was like, everything is huge. Why are we like this? And I was like, hating America or whatever. Then you're at
full circle. Yeah, I mean, you get you get used to it living. Exactly. Yeah. Hello. I think we froze. Oh I'm back. Wait, did your phone overheat too? Yeah.
I guess we were too hot to handle. So tell me about like Africa.
Yeah, I was only there for like three months. I had some friends that were doing like a football programme at one of the universities in Nairobi. And so we went over to like help them like run the programme and stuff like that. So it was super fun. Yeah, lots of fun like food and different like takes up food like I really loved they have the stands where they made like hotdogs and sounds super like boring but they something about the way that they like put like salsa on it or something like it was just so good. The best thing I've ever had. And I literally got one every single day because they have little carts on campus and I was like these hotdogs are the best. And there was one time I was literally it was like a movie. I I was literally bringing the hot dog like to my mouth to eat it. And something like hit me in the head. And I thought that it was the guy who like made the hot dog because I had said something about like, oh, like, last time I got one that came with like, a different kind of fun and like, I must have just ordered the wrong one because it was like a weird one. And I was like, Okay, I need to remember like, which one I ordered, like, so that I ordered the one that I liked better. And I thought he had heard me say that and like had thrown the bone that I wanted, like at my head. And so I like, look back and like, like, I turned around, I look back and like it wasn't that and so then I was like, Oh weird, and I like went back to keep eating my hot dog. But it was gone. And I realised what had happened was like literally a bird had like flown down, grabbed the hot dog out of my hand as I was about to eat it and like, hit me in the head with its wing and I look over and it's like flying away with my hot dog. And I will always remember that because I was just in the streets of Kenya dying laughing and everyone's staring at me. They're like, what's wrong with this girl? Why is she like dying laughing the middle of the street and like me and my friend that I was with, we were just like, unable to walk. Like we were like, This is the funniest thing ever. And yeah, so there's my hot dog story for you.
Okay, This was Becca here. Unfortunately, we are at time, so it's time to say our goodbyes.
It was really good meeting you. Thank you for this awesome conversation.
So nice chatting with you. This was super fun.
Okay, Ashley, take off your headphones for a second. We want to just talk to David privately. Okay,
thank you,
David. I thought that that was great. I thought that you had really interesting stories and you really kept conversation flowing while you guys touched a lot of interesting fun topics and kept it very light hearted for a first date.
You're amazing. Putting your phone in the freezer. It's so fun to watch. And I love how spontaneous you are. How did you feel it went?
It took about maybe 1015 minutes for us to start vibing all my reactions to ISIS raw? Because I had no idea like what was happening.
You guys did a great job of ping ponging back and forth sharing different stories with each other. Do you feel
curious to get to know more about Ashley?
Yeah, potentially. But like I, you know, I'm the ways it was done. It was very unique to me. Normally, I texts the person back and forth. First,
let's say Ashley's interested in getting to know more about you? How do you feel about that?
I'm just curious, knowing the distance situation is, you know, potentially problematic. But like, but that said, I don't. Recently I've been taking a different route to dating and like, I've been actually being friends with the people who don't even like work out. So like, you know, in that sense? Yeah, definitely.
Long distance has worked well recently, because so many people can work remotely and Ashley is in a position where she potentially could. So maybe the two of you will take a trip to Oregon and spend some time together or go to a concert. And you can see how things develop. But I'll connect with Ashley and see how she felt about you as well. Awesome. Any concerns aside from the distance
I we had the fun general banter of a date. But normally at this point, I would know something about that person and about their wants, their dating goals, etc, etc. Like that. So I don't know those things about her and she doesn't those things about me.
We didn't really get deep into any one particular topic if you noticed, and one way to really be able to do that and get a bit deeper than surface level is to just ask a follow up question. So don't be afraid next time to ask a little bit more about a specific trip. She went on her story she told that that you really enjoyed
this definitely is a unique situation. It was really fun to watch you guys on a date, though. I
appreciate it. And thank you for the opportunity even if like nothing happens. I really enjoy the overall experience. I love it. Thank you very much.
Thanks, David. Let's invite Ashley back on. All right,
Ashley. I'm so excited to hear what you thought about that day. It was really fun to watch especially as both of you are in the freezer. So first before I go into how I felt you did on the date tell me while it's fresh. How did you feel it went
don't go anywhere. We'll be back after this short break
How did you feel it went
It felt a little less natural, I guess, than my date with Jeff from the other day. So I guess that was like the main feedback, I guess about the right word from that one. Like, it was still fun. I think like, by the end, we like kind of found a groove and we're getting into things. But starting off that one felt like it took a little more to get started and get into it.
Could you tell in your body a difference? Like, were you? Did you feel sort of stiff? Or just not as relaxed? Like, physically? How did you feel?
Yeah, I think I felt just not as relaxed. I could sense myself feeling or acting like how I do. And I like talking with a client or something like that, like more like businessy. And so I was like, okay, like, don't be businessy. But I was I just like noted it. But yeah, again, like, I think by the end, we were able to laugh and like, connect on some things. So that was really cool. But yeah, I think that it just didn't feel as natural or as like fluid of a connection as when me and Jeff talked the other day that felt a little more like I was at ease in my body like, and stuff like that. Okay, interesting.
And what were some of the things that you appreciated about David, and then also anything that you were concerned about?
Yeah, I think I appreciated how he kept the conversation going. Like, I didn't feel like I was having to pull teeth and ask a tonne of questions and stuff like that. He shared a lot about himself, which I think is really good. And like helped me kind of get to know him a little bit more as well. There wasn't anything that was like a major red flag or anything like that. Yeah, I don't know, I just, I feel like there just wasn't as much of a connection as there was on the first one, for whatever reason. But not for any, like, negative reasons or anything like that.
I know that you might not have felt as strong of a connection with David, as you did with Jeff. But I kind of feel the same, the same feedback applies to this round, if there was any moments where you wanted to insert some flirtiness to see if we can increase connection, whether it's, you know, playful banter about some story that he told or, you know, making a joke here and there having some kind of banter in that way, I think that can always kind of see if the chemistry could grow in a space that feels a little bit more friendly. I would also encourage you to you know, and I told David, this go a bit deeper on topics, it can really just increase vulnerability can increase connection. And while it is so important to stay light hearted, and fun and easygoing, on a first date, which you have nailed down to a tee are so good at that light hearted, fun, easy conversation. When we're really looking for our person, we also want to get to know them more. So doesn't have to be anything serious doesn't have to be any intense questioning or anything that feels like a job interview. But if you feel like there's space, or you feel like there's an opportunity, I encourage you to just try and dive in a little bit deeper,
you were able to get across a few places that you lived, which is really nice, because this is a terrible analogy. But it's helped. It's like a strip tease where every day you take something off, and they learn a little bit more about you and you're able to get vulnerable. So it's great that you were able to sprinkle that in. Yeah. And it may be just because you didn't feel as connected with him. Like, I didn't get a sense of the light flirting we talked about, but that might just be because you didn't feel quite as comfortable as you did with Jeff.
Yeah, I think that just knowing myself in general, like flirting is interesting whenever it happens. So I think I definitely really have to feel comfortable with someone in order for that to just kind of naturally happen and not overthink it and be like, oh, like, was that turning? Should I have flirted more like? So yeah, I think that that definitely may have been a part of that. For sure.
There were a few spots where I thought you could have chimed in with something. But it's okay. You should only do it if it feels authentic to you. Yeah, you know, every time we learn more about you and how you feel with the matches, then we can change it up and tweak it a little bit. It's really up to you. But all these dates are helpful, even if they don't end up in a second date. Yeah, no, I
completely agree.
So for the next match, anything that you want us to keep in mind, anything that you'd want us to change up.
I don't know, maybe I do. Do better with someone who is also an extrovert. Maybe that's part of it. I don't I don't know if part of it is like career pathways. Like maybe I do better with someone who's like, like in front of people, and maybe that could be something fun to switch up.
I think we have our plan. And where did we land on Jeff, should we do a second day or just move on to another match?
Um, I think that we should do a second date with Jeff and also have a new match.
Okay, I love that plan. And I have the feedback from the state, which is really helpful. So we'll go back to the drawing board. We're going to interview some more matches and then I'll be back in touch with you to present another match soon.
Awesome. That sounds great.
Okay, perfect. Well, thank you, Ashley. I'll be back in touch and have a great rest of your day.
Yeah, thank you. You too.
Thank you, everyone. for listening. Please look out for our next episode, which will hopefully be Ashley's second date with Jeff. If he's down, so we'll see if the two can rekindle and connect and get a bit deeper. want to follow along with the show or know anyone? Good for Ashley. Follow us on lovestruck daily on Instagram and Twitter or email lovestruck daily at Frolik dot media. For matchmaking.
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