Right Mark let's start then with Aston Villa trading arsenal vs Aston Villa a couple instance in that game yeah,
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right Mark list or Aston Villa vs. Arsenal. The first point I wanted to bring up was the booking that was given to concert when he filed soccer ball let's play for you on the flank sack looks like he's running in behind konza he takes him out he was given a yellow card he was caution Arsenal fans Arsenal manager it thought he should have been sent out for denial of a goal what were your thoughts? I have to think the referee got the right outcome. I don't think he could have been right Yeah,
I did. I think they're looking at the you know, the blinkers on I think if you look at David Lewis on on against Wall Street midweek I think that compare it to that and it's just totally different incident. I mean, you look at the look at the incident where soccer was was second was failed and it was the distance between the offence and the goal you're the general direction of play. So the distance from goals is a long way the general direction was was out wide the likelihood of keeping or gaining control with a ball was you know, and the location and number of defenders so I think there was a defender coming up to most probably come around so yeah there was there was lots of doubts there it got challenge didn't meet the criteria offered in our goals got appreciate opportunity and a red card so I think the referee got that absolutely spot
does the fact that soccer isn't lightning quick he's probably faster than that could bring defended. Does that come into the referees thinking that all the time, it's unlikely that he's going to be caught.
I think I think where it was on the field of play because it was wide. And there was a chance of covering covering defender but you know, had it been more central than you look at it you're looking at a totally different outcome I think it's just because it's the position on the field of play and and the distance is from goal I think there's a site if you're more central I think you you've most probably and there's no defenders around because don't remember it doesn't matter if there's if there's a last man or not that does that's not in the last game. He did his opponent deny him a goal or an obvious courseware opportunity and I think I think the referee got that one spot.
Cool.
Let's say Alex lacazette was convinced that he should have other penalty when he's grappling with me Martin is in gold. Arthur's I've got a bit of a gob of shares to go to the floor. It's the not a penalty and lacquers as himself is convinced that when I think he went on social media and set the scene like he filed me Did you think that should have been given us a penalty?
Yeah, I think you know sometimes goalkeepers are over protected. me it was very close to Martinez so yeah, listen, I I think that had referee I think was it Chris cabinet? I think was it Chris cabinet? The referee? I think Chris cabinet. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think had he given the penalty. It wouldn't have been overturned. But obviously, you know, there's a lot of questions asked, why didn't they all get involved, but but they've not seen it as a as a clear and obvious error. And I've watched on our watch some, you know, few pundits and some are saying yes, some say no, so it's not clear and obvious error, is it? But, you know, for me, I think Arsenal were counsellors are lucky not to have got a penalty. Okay, difficult to see difficult to see from where the referee is in that in that situation? You know? Do you not think so? challenging? I
think the footage good again, you know, better than what I thought the footage shows I don't want to play and not be excited because of the grapple.
It all depends on what what angles they're looking at it from, you know, I mean, lango. I saw that Ron front on, he's clearly got a shirt. He's pulling down, isn't he? Yeah. So he only depends what you see is the clear and obvious area. What I see is a clear and obvious here and actually the fourth official, so it could be different. But as I said, we're seeing many inconsistency in those instances. So yes, Arsenal can feel aggrieved and could have been could have had a penalty, as I said had tadi given it in real time it would have stood var wouldn't have seen it as a clear and obvious error.
Definitely. I think I'm writing saying in the Newcastle Southampton game, which we'll move on to then I think I'm writing Creek Porsche and got the help of var for mistaken I then the second yellow card is that writing from what, from what I've heard, the I didn't get involved. Someone someone else might i think i think it was a combination of Southampton players and possibly the fourth official need assistance. Now, you know, Craig Paulson should not be getting that wrong. He's momentary switched off.
And then when you switch off, that's what happens because he's in a fantastic position and he's outside of Hendrick, he's outside when he pulls him back. And for that moment, he's just switched off and shown the yellow car to Joe willock, which as we all know, is wrong. And then obviously, they've got it right. They mean, they've got it right. But yeah, it was a referee at that level, you shouldn't you shouldn't really be doing that. When you
are the referee, if you make a mistake like that, and the whole, you know, dolphins is at play, you know, everything played on the pitch, or the officials know you've got it wrong. Does that undermine your confidence for like, the competence of the players have gotten you to get to know because if you make something like that, that you know, to be fair to Jeff Hendrick and your work don't look anything like you do with example. Is that something that you could see, you know, having an effect on Craigslist, that game a car company? Look at that one?
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I was Yeah, I had, I mean, had they not been picked up by the onfield. Officials, then VA, I would have picked up because it was resolved it would result is resolved in a second yellow card. And off he went. I mean, Hendricks was very naive. He's no need to do that in that situation, because there was defenders or at covering defenders around. And Craig could be thinking how it does affect your confidence, because he'd be thinking, How on earth Have I made that mistake? How have I done that? How am I done that? I shouldn't be doing that. And in those sorts of situations, you say, say the post Sorry, guys. I'm sorry. I don't know I've done that. I've just got that wrong for momentary I just switched off. And then yeah, that's everyone to be okay with him. Because he's in the end, they got it right.
It wasn't Yeah, at the end. Let's move on, then probably the biggest talking points of referee wise at the weekend was Thomas soucek red cards as Westham play forum. It looks like again, the incidence is mid, which is kind of a little bit of a graph on the side that pulls him away from him. And he does catch him but it's good to me that it looks clearly accidental. Lee may turn the var asks Mike, the integral over to the monitor again, I don't know why he's what what they've seen, and rather astonishing. We might be an instance to check off. When you go through that, like obviously, we all you're gonna say you think it's an array with a module like how was that happened? It seemed very, very bizarre the whole to do?
Well, it does. I mean, it it seems farcical, doesn't it. I mean, I've sent you the law anyway. So you've got the law there about violent conduct. So you can add that into the conversation. Okay. So I'd say I've, so I've read out a lot here. And then we'll go we'll go from there. So I mean, when we are watching the grid real time because I said you know what you left over from the football for for yourselves as other people and poor free kicks taken. Mike Dean is looking in that direction. Mike Dean is looking straight at soucek and michalowicz. michalowicz goes down, Mike Dean blows his whistle looking straight at it. So he's walking. So he's walking into this situation, he obviously feels that it's not an act of violent conduct. It's accidental because that just the image of it moves comes away. And then he lifts his arm up over, over. And for me, it's totally accidental. It's not an act of violent conduct. It's not a deliberate act. There's no force or brutality is totally an accident. And, and the contact is the ferocity you need to get into graduate school, isn't it? So?
I don't understand then. How and why Lee Mason's got involved. It's not the first time the motions got involved in incidents where he shouldn't have done.
I think. Now more and excited was the referee. And I'm sure Lee Mason was the for Fisher was the VR game.
And then obviously, Annie Taylor went over to the mitre and stuck with his original decision, because he said, No, that's not a penalty. And I agreed with it. So I mean, Lee Mason was
a man was Mason was the var but he called Andre Andre didn't change his mind, which was the Andre Yeah. And we praised him for it. Yes. Oh, yeah. Obviously, Andre. Sorry. Yeah. Andre.
And then it's not the first time he's been involved in those situations. But anyway, yeah. Lately Mason's looking at that and then obviously he deems it an act of violent conduct. So yeah, he recommends a review to
to Mike Dean. Now, as a referee, you don't have to go over to that if you're a viewer a review is recommended. You don't have to, but you as a referee, you'd be silly not to. So Mike Dean's gone, gone trotting over and remember on on Tuesday, midnight, Southampton. betternet. Got his red card overturn because they were wrong. You know, I mean, once again, I thought Mike Dean was looking at the monitor to change his decision, because he said clear is clear simulation from from Anthony nutshell. So when he's gone over to when he's going over, and I'm thinking, you know, that this is the those, I'm thinking about what's going on, he's got one he's got over. He's gonna send him off. He's gonna send him off. And they've looked it over 20 times 20 times. And if you're looking at here, it's over 20 times, how can that be? A clear and obvious error or serious incident missed? How can that be violent conduct if you've got a look at it 20 times, you know, clenched fist. I mean, you see, I just, I just I just couldn't, I just couldn't believe it. And the thing that I think Lee Mason dropped Mike Dean right in right in it, you've dropped him right in there. And I would like to see I mean, Mike, Mike Dean's a very experienced referee. And yeah, he's, you know, he's done over 500 Premier League games, and he's a good referee. But unfortunately, he's, he's had two big decisions. In my opinion, he's got drastically wrong, horribly wrong, horribly wrong. And I would like to see him be mentally tough and mentally struggling to say, No, Lee, that's not violent conduct. For me. That is a total accident, and it's there in law is there in law, it's not an act of violent conduct. So I think everybody even mentioned he was telling me it's not it's not a great card. So I think everybody was just flabbergasted that he said enough. And, and, you know, I just, I mean, I understand that he said, he didn't want off the game. He didn't want to send him off. But he had to, cuz Look, I mean, I'm sorry, law says that wasn't a red card. That wasn't violent conduct. So once again, they've got it horrible. Remember, Lee Mason was the referee at Southampton Villa when they didn't give that handball for Matty cash. And Mike Dean was the VA.
Mini split, and those who are thinking before because I was watching, we could see what might be missing with where the camera was on. And you can see the monitor and he's literally watching on loop. Just this they'd be able to attune him hitting him. And yet, it's only there's no context shown before. You don't see them, Jocelyn and getting out the way. You meant we mentioned that it was 101 with a look, we'll be falling over 10 li recently No, that wasn't a penalty. You haven't even kicked the ball. Yeah. Why do you think my team hasn't done that? Because everything but also
you're also the force used if there was contact was natural. Yeah. And it wasn't it wasn't a deliberate act. Yeah, it wasn't a deliberate act. Yeah, has to deliberate strike an opponent. And I mean, you've got you've got it there. So you can you can feed that into the law.
Crazy.
Are you saying? Yeah, I
was gonna say we'll we'll move on. It's not I think we will we agree it was just a non Well,
I did I just think I just think you know, the FAA gonna overturn to Mike Dean's red cards would have overturned one and they should overturn this one. Now for the good of the game.
It has to be overturned. Because if everybody everybody today is saying that is not a red card, that we all we all can't be wrong. Camry. We all can't be wrong for all shine. It's not an act of honour conduct.
All right, let's move on. We'll see in Liverpool v. One city today and most allemands a penalty from a poor boss by Ruben Diaz.
We've mentioned before double jeopardy, you know, you can't if you're making a genuine attempt at the ball in the box, you won't be sent off. Now he isn't making a genuine attempt at the ball. He's pulling motorolla back. Sure that might be a red card is not a red card offence because he's literally pulled him back in the penalty area
or it only only becomes a red card offence if he is denying and no one goes going opportunity.
Sorry, do you think that was the case? You think? No, because if
you if you look stones was coming round. And so there is there is there is doubt there too as to whether that was a goalscoring opportunity, and also would have would have he gained? Would he gain control of the ball again, it was questionable. So I think that was the that was the correct outcome. I mean, a lot of people are saying now solid, you know, there wasn't enough on it. There wasn't enough force to make him go down. Now. I'm sorry.
Listen, if you don't go down he has to get a penalty. So you can't blame solid going down the way he did. It's a penalty. Ds shouldn't have done what he done he once he's poor once he gets old and tries to pull him he's asking the referee to make a decision and Michael Oliver made that decision and I thought Michael referee the game very well. Yeah. Now Yeah, no doubt no doubt our number one referee. Some will disagree with that. But I'm, you know, I think I'm qualified to say that he's our number one, right?
He can't be much worse than some of the others and let's move up to Scotland and South equators Motherwell Celtic, what fjord is not devante Cole Wasn't he was given a yellow cards. He's like kind of laying on the floor, he kind of kicked sorrow in the chest. And this one's weird for me, Mark, because
we know that for again, violent conduct needs to be a deliberate act, we force it don't hurt. You've been given a yellow car, which means the referee probably thinks it was reckless but not dangerous. Upon replay, it looks pretty bad. It looks like he does kick him quite deliberately. Again, do you think that he could have been a red card and we know the rules in Scotland, you think they could look at it and potentially overturn that decision and give him a ban? Like we've seen happen? Well,
they Yeah, obviously they can do, obviously they can send send out notice if they if they speak to the referee, and he didn't see the challenge in its entirety. For me, I think it's an absolute clear red card. I think the assistant is right there. as well. And, you know, kicking or attempting to kick an opponent is an act of violent conduct. And
it should have been in Celtic. Right, absolutely. Spot on. It was it was a record offence for violent conduct. So be interesting to see in the coming days to see what happens with with the Motherwell player. Yeah, sure. It was a fancy call for us. And I think the call so actually, we are these are it? Yeah. So Oh, yeah. Good. But yeah.
And then the second instance, in like a one instance was a model, well thought they should have a goal when the ball hit maybe across the line, if you look at the guy who's cleaning, his standing force is pretty much on the goal line, which kind of might give a clue. Again, with no technology, it's hard to give that. Can you understand, given the speed through the wire system wouldn't give that goal? Absolutely. I mean, to give to get that I mean, I was watching that was that you can't tell me? Yeah, you have to be parallel, you have to be parallel with with on the goal line to see that and even any, it'd be difficult because you got the posts in the way you got the player, the players in a way. So until until Scotland find find Scottish Football, find some money and start investing in technology, you're always going to get these decisions was it wasn't it now? You know, for me, it's you cannot tell. So the officials cannot give that as a goal.
It may have I mean, it may have gone or there may be an angle that they've got that shows your house. But I mean, on that on the angle that I've seen the footage is, it's not clear. So I don't think Motherwell can have any complaints about not having a goal of getting awarded for that situation. But they had got a complaint, about COVID not being dismissed for violent conduct.
And then the final ones they can in Scotland. Last week, when we spoke about schema ruffoni. He wasn't sent off for that challenge. And we thought he was at the SFA of because I have noticed that he said they were going to
or Rangers have said that they're going to appeal that a Do you think they're they've got any chance of winning that appeal? Why do you think they've appealed? Because again, do you think it really looked like a bad challenge? You surprised the appeals as well?
Yeah, well, obviously, in the SFA rules they can serve notice on if they're if the referee hasn't seen the challenge in its entirety. So I reckon Rangers are quite right, you know, quite well in the right to appeal that, that that that notice, but wait, I think when the SFA serve a notice like that, for a challenge of that nature, I can't see Rangers winning an appeal personally. So be interesting to see if that was too cold, cold, cold as well, no matter what the model will play. So be here be interested in this lot. I mean, obviously lots going on in Scottish Football as well. Isn't there