I truly had no real plan. When I started it. I just knew I needed to I was already involved in animal welfare. And I helped get the puppy mill bill passed in Oklahoma 10 years ago, because of Oklahoma being in such a situation where we euthanized probably the most in the country. It was between us Arkansas and Missouri. I thought that's what I know. That's what I'll focus on with a FF Arnall Family Foundation. But then a friend who worked at the Department of Human Services here in Oklahoma, was telling me about the kids that aged out of foster care. And she said they're they have no safety net when they age out, that broke my heart. And she had this idea of an organization from out of state, who had a program that was very, was evidence base. They had great results in doing wraparound services for kids who were about to age out and had aged up. So I made a pretty large grant for that. That was my first really large grant and then became involved start learning. And that way, we've got to stop these kids from even going into foster care, because I'd learned that we weren't just taking them out for intentional neglect, but also situational, situational, something like living in your car because you can't afford rent, electricity being turned off water being turned off mother not being able to afford childcare. So leaving young kids homeless, she went to work that situational has nothing to do with the love of parent has for the child, or the love the child has for the parent. It's just tough circumstances. We were taking kids out for that. And intentional neglect. Yes, absolutely. But with so many kids be taken out just because their parents couldn't provide for them that why don't we go help them? Why don't we help the family so that they can keep their kids, once the kid gets taken out of his home he's ever traumatized. It's horrific. Going to a new family, even if it's the most fabulous family in the world, that insecurity a child has is horrible. And I recognized immediately that in Oklahoma, we were saying that's a state's problem, not our problem. And I thought, No, it's not my problem. It's our problem. These are our kids. When our state takes custody of these kids away from their parents. They're our responsibility. It's up to all of us to try to make it better. And so it became very involved in child welfare, specifically children who were either going into foster care in foster care or about to go in. So then I started getting into the circumstances for these children. How did they end up of foster care? Because there were a lot who had parents who did love them, but they had been in jail or prison. At one point, we have the highest number of kids in foster care. We have the highest number of people in prison or incarcerated. There's got to be a connection. So start looking at that and there absolutely was it connection. And we had a pretty long discussion here at a FF on whether we could transition into criminal justice, did it fit within our goals? And everybody after they saw the data set? Absolutely, it does. Because we have the highest number, then that I really can't address all of those people in prison. There's just no way there's not enough money. There's not enough time, resources, what if we work on trying to keep them from going? So we narrowed our focus on people in in jail, and about the inner prison and trying to we call it stop the flow, slow the flow. And so that's where we've been focused pretrial. And post Senate same but pre prison, I always like data, I love to look at numbers. And I'd love to try to figure out what the trend is on those. That's an omics majoring you? Yeah, it's gotta be. And the Crude Oil Trading problem is the numbers, looking at trends, trying to figure out what to do. So I saw 40% of the people who enter DRC department of corrections that year had entered as a result of a revocation of probation. Over half of those had on their revocation, it wasn't because of the No offense, it was because of violation of the terms. They call those technical violations. So there were people perfectly harmless, living their lives working, trying to get by, but they can't afford to get the bus, if they have a job to go get that year and analysis that they're given a couple of hours to do. They can't afford to go to the service providers and pay the service providers. A lot of them will not allow the person in if they don't pay first. So it's as if they didn't show up if they go in the California camp with 25 $35. To get in. I went to a couple of these organizations, and sat in on their classes. And one girl fainted while she was there. It turned out she had donated plasma before she got there. I am not making this stuff up. This is so common, you donate a plasma so that she could afford to get into the class because she had to get through the class so she could get her kids back. We've put so many monetary burdens on people to get through the system. And that's why 85% of the people in our Oklahoma County Jail, they're under a federal poverty guidelines. They're indigent, they can't afford the bond. They can't afford an attorney, they can't afford the service fees. They can't afford everything stacked up on them. So they end up in prison forever. And their kids end up in state care. And that's the cycle that I'm looking at even still in federal stats on crimes. And whether you're a safe community, violent community, the crimes that they judge, or take data on are crimes against people and crimes against property. Nowhere in that is taking drugs, nowhere. Drugs are not criminalized in the federal guidelines for what's the crime. However, in Oklahoma 1/3 of the people we arrest, it's drug related, if we just stopped doing that, not drug trafficking, just drug related. If we stopped doing that, can you imagine the number of people who wouldn't be in jail and the Department of Corrections, it would be culture shifting, several states don't criminalize to that degree anymore. And their incarceration rates are lower. But for some reason, it's still going on. And it's still criminalized. So the police and the judges get to choose what they enforce. And when they say I can't go by that crime and not arrest them. Yeah, they do. They do every day. They go by all these crimes, they just don't choose to arrest. They pick and choose who they arrest, and what they arrest for. And it's reinforced by our district attorneys, by our judges also and by the public.