Shalom, my friends, welcome to the Light Lab podcast. My name is Eliana Light and it is a thrill to welcome you to our 20th episode! Can't believe we are on number 20, I want to give you a huge thank you for listening to the show, we have over 4200 plays so far, really blowing our minds, we're so so grateful that you get to be part of this exploration of T'fillah, holding our liturgy up to the light, exploring personal prayer practice, we're so glad that you get to be a part of it with us. And we couldn't do it without you. And we would love for your support in a few ways. First, and most importantly, I think by sharing the show with others. Do you have friends, colleagues, family members who are interested in Jewish learning, maybe who want to learn more about Jewish prayer practice, or lead Jewish prayer practice themselves? Please share this with them, please rate and review us on iTunes and Stitcher. And if you have the capacity, we would really appreciate your monetary support as well. If you go to ko-fi.com/thelightlab, that's ko-fi.com/thelightlab, you can sign up for one of our membership tiers. And there's also a link there to give a tax deductible donation to the light lab. All of this stuff is linked in the show notes, which again are very extensive, and you should read them. And all of those links are wherever you found this podcast. Just look at the description and it's right there. Now friends, I am so excited. I know that I say that I'm excited about the interviews all the time. But this was such a treat and an honor to interview, my friend Daphna Rosenberg. Daphna is one of the founders of Nava Tehila, the Jewish renewal community in Jerusalem, and she has been composing, playing music and leading with them for 17 years. Now when I say that Nava Tehila has transformed what prayer looks like here in the United States. That might sound like an overstatement, but it is not. She is an incredible composer, leader and teacher and has toured extensively in the United States, not just sharing the music of Nava Tehila. But their vision of what prayer is and can be, and their leadership style, which is something that we're going to talk about a lot in this interview. We met at a Union for Reform Judaism biennial convention many years ago, where I got to daven, pray with Nava Tehila. I've actually never been in Jerusalem when they are reading which is so sad. But gosh, their influence, again, as we'll talk about, has been so, so powerful, and you might even know some melodies that have come out of Nava Tehila. Daphna herself serves in the area of spiritual care for the ill and dying and in creating heart to heart connections between people from different cultures and traditions. We talk a lot about her background and her travels and how they inform her work and her spiritual life. She's currently involved in musically and spiritually leading Jewish meditation retreats as part of the Or Halev Center for Jewish Spirituality faculty in Israel. And she's also part of this year's Hadar Rising Song Institute fellowship cohort, which I am also a part of, and we have gotten to be hevruta, study and connection partners over the past few months, which has really enhanced and impacted my life in his how this interview itself came to be. So I hope you enjoy my interview with Daphna Rosenberg.