Well, today we talked about the Internet. Nobody. Nobody said what that was, though. So I was very last through most of the day, unfortunately. But the theme for today was truth is part of this three concept. methodology that they've adopted for this year of truth and hope, and trust, and and in our keynote address tripti talked about truth in the context of the DNS about being predictability. In other words, is it the true the route is that the true domain name that you're trying to get to? And that was sort of this essence of truth. But we talked about it in other areas as well in terms of Internet governance, and what does Internet governance look like? And Bill Drake talks about governance on the Internet versus of the Internet. And this constant tension that exists between the role of governments themselves as the normal source of authority and and the normal sort of safeguards of their citizenry, versus this sort of loosely coupled, multi stakeholder organizations that sprung up around the Internet. And there's a constant tension between them. And I think we're going to be talking about that a great deal over the next two years because of this, with this review that's coming up very soon is have we found the right balance in that tension. Milton talked a little bit about the need to start talking about the digital ecosystem instead of just the Internet ecosystem, in other words, is the Internet itself, which seems ironic to me too small of a categorization when we begin to talk about the ecosystem. And we need to start talking about the physical components of the ecosystem, as well and the technological components of that ecosystem. When we started talking about multistakeholder models, Andrew made the point that the reason that there's so much multistakeholder ism, if you will, in the context of the Internet, it's because it's reflective of the structure of the Internet itself. There's so many disparate disparate players involved in the success of the Internet, that by definition, it requires a disparate set of players to set policy or to set norms and standards for that Internet. So that multi stakeholders and to some extent, according to Andrew was sort of an outgrowth of the internet's structure and history itself. We talked about trend efforts at transparency and truth. And there was another area of disagreement about whether these things are working. But there's a lot of efforts, governments are involved in efforts to try and identify truth, the private sector involved in efforts to try and identify truth. There's also this notion of what is true, which is a complicating thing as well, because even truth is an evolving concept. As we learn more about things. I mean, even even all the misinformation about COVID, for example, some of it accidentally turned out to be true. So that was the irony there. In other words, there were people making assertions without evidence to make them. But when the evidence came through, some of those things ended up being true. So then they felt vindicated, even though they were engaged in something that was not a terribly positive approach to the debate. So there's the truth of the moment, there's the ultimate truth. And determining those two and accommodating those two is going to be one of the challenges going forward as well. And I think Milton asked a very important question, and this one that we're going to ask ourselves in a lot of different areas is, how do we measure these things? When Milton was pressed back on, as the only guy that thought that the system was working? The question he asked was, how do you measure it? Is it better or worse than it was before? What are your expectations of these systems? And so we have to make sure that we have shared expectations and goals for the systems of truth seeking, because then we'll have shared concepts of the results. Right. And that was something that Milton brought up as well. And then finally, on the issue of collaboration, there's a lot of discussion about what leads to better collaboration between groups on the Internet. We talked about having common goals, specific goals, etc. clarity of purpose, you know, granular purpose, etc. And, and trust, which is going to be the conversation tomorrow, so that's a good segue into our next discussion. Thanks for being here today and get some have fun at the party and really want to say your last few words. Thanks.
So some logistics, the people that are going back to the hotel, the boss does international rotation is downstairs so and I know some of you are near the hotel in the Caribbean. So make sure you get into the The transportation so use a walking distance at six o'clock we're going to have a reception. You know, this is like we work very hard today now we're going to play hard right right like that. We're going to be from six to eight. We're going to have a reception right there the hotel where you're staying downstairs, I think by the breakfast area, they close that and and so we have wine and beer and water and soft drinks and some finger food and and I will see you there in a few minutes. Right. That's very close. So thank you so much and this
