and being flexible and being able to to start the meeting a little earlier. I have a mother work related presentation that I have to do to or work and so thank you. I appreciate your coming in. You can see here, Angela that Elijah has provided an agenda in the in the chat for us for the meeting. Yeah, yeah. That will guide us.
Do you see my reply on on Slack I sent you on slack to me to Elijah, the dev meeting somewhere.
Oh, yeah, I'll make that change after after this meeting. Okay, yeah, thanks for bringing that up. I'll make that change and update the thing.
And just as a reminder to everyone, the meeting is being recorded.
Okay. All right. So the agenda for today. Let's do a quick recap on the design and Dev meetings. I know Angela, you don't. We weren't able to attend that design meeting. So I guess this this will help a lot. For you. Then we have to prepare for tomorrow's sprint planning. Start our tentative work on our product roadmap. So I guess let's start with a quick recap of that design and Dev meeting. Let me get my notes
Angela, did you see the the link Heidi sent in our product channel?
What was
this? This she started last Thursday. It's basically notes that the product team would need
I haven't checked.
Okay. No worries. So while you go open that up. So you got it. Okay, cool. So, basically, they're what they're doing right now is are they doing or no, they're working on the landing page. So they can hand that off to dev already in tech and start developing that. They're also really trying to focus on that user flows. Now I don't know exactly what they mean by that. Trinita Do you know what they mean?
I'm not. I need to find me to find the document. I'm
sorry. Yeah, I was. I'm
sorry. You said it was October because I was going to look at my notes. But yeah, it'd be better to look at what Heidi wrote
is that it's in our product channel. ruminate.
I can't find it. I'm looking at please. I'm sorry. Yeah, no worries.
It's from Thursday, October 12.
Got it. Okay. Pulling it up now.
Yeah, they have user stories made but they need a they need to like redo some of them I believe, because I know that Bersia talk to the client about that. And I remember correctly correct me if I'm wrong Juanita, but I think there was some changes that the client made
the designs right to
Well, yeah, to the design and to the user stories.
Oh, I thought they may change Okay, or did they just make the designs and therefore the user stories had to change because the design Okay,
okay. Yeah, it was that it was that exactly. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. And if you look at the notes, there's a section in there where it says pages priority, and that actually helps us a lot that makes our job easier.
Okay, I have a dumb question. Yeah. Where are the notes in this file? Oh, there they are. I don't know why I didn't see them before. Okay, got it. Okay. Yeah. What What has been your looking at what has been done so far? And then
I'm looking at pages priority now because that would help us with our roadmap.
And that must be the next week, week overview pages priority boom, gotcha. Okay, yeah, sorry. I actually am seeing this for the first time. I'm sorry about that. Okay.
Do you need me to send you a screenshot?
I'm trying to open the file.
It's probably just, I'm trying. Very slow. Yeah. To open. Yeah. Elijah while she's opening it, because I think it's probably time for her to load.
Yeah. So I don't remember what were they based this off from but I know for sure the landing page they have to get done so def could start working on something and that's actually what the client wants. And then afterwards I get feedback, like give feedback Help section. So the landing page what exactly what it consists of Chonita.
What does it consist of? Yeah, isn't it? Things that we see listed here, the landing page
so the ones the rest? That Oh, way? Yeah. Yeah, no, yeah, you're right. You're right.
The landing page.
Sorry, can you repeat that Angela?
Um, I will say that my network isn't too great because of the weather but like, I'll try to
Okay, I'll send you a screenshot of what we're or
that's a good idea
to send you a screenshot.
Yeah, then you'll be able to follow along and participate.
Yeah, because it's mainly the only thing that we're looking at from design.
Let's see the
birds are just message us to Anita just so you know. What does it say? Yeah, just you and I just like a tip.
That's a
tip. Okay. Tips always
a tip. Well, what we should do tomorrow.
Ah, it would be good for me to look at it because we are planning so it's like a DM.
Yeah. Did you get it? Angela?
In the chat Oh,
yeah. sent to the chat, the group chat view and Trinita yeah, there's slack through slack.
It's a picture
okay. Yes, yes, I did. Okay,
excuse me, Elijah. You want me to send her a thumbs up?
Yeah, just send it a thumbs up. Yeah. I didn't read it completely. But yeah, yeah. I
mean, it sounds like not a bad idea or anything like that. So might as well just sum it up, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Why am I having trouble? I want to add a reaction. There we go. Got it. There we go. Cool. Yeah. Okay. There we go.
So
it's kind of a little bit along the lines of when we had the meetings with them. But to get even more up to date, rather than going by meetings that were a couple of business days ago. Sending them the note means that we get like up to the minute so to speak. Her advice? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I was gonna go based on what we had gotten from them. Now. You know, if and if they don't respond. Well, we go with something that's, you know, not quite up to the minute but still very accurate. Yeah.
Well, we'll talk about that next. That's actually next in our agenda. And
I'm just know you can keep doing what you were doing. I'm going to make a note of myself.
Yeah. I actually want to ask you a question about these the landing page. Okay,
okay. Let me just make this quick. Note so that I don't lose. Okay.
While she's ready to know Angela, as you know,
did she bounce off?
Are you there? I don't
Sorry, I'm struggling my network. What?
No, no worries.
No, if you still have figma open close it because that's going to impact you as well. Since you said you the screenshot, you don't even need to be wasting bandwidth with the with figma. open right now.
Okay.
Okay. Yeah. So as you know, like from the dev meeting, Dev wants to prioritize the admin page because it's gonna require a lot of front end and back end work. So I think from here, after they work on the landing page dev should be so all Dev is working on the landing page. I'm thinking that design should be working on the admin dashboard. So then they get handed off to dev in the next one, what they call it spread. What do you think?
That's what I think as well. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what I well.
Okay. Now, I'm not exactly sure how long it will take for design to finish that admin dashboard because I don't even look at their desire to be honest. Have you? Or do you remember a little bit of it from last phase?
Like last week?
You mean in terms of how long it took them to do things,
how much they have or how much of the admin dashboard do they have?
But has it haven't things changed there too? So I guess I'm not clear on what has or is changing on the admin dashboard. Yeah, you understand what I'm like? I'm not sure. Yeah.
So we need to ask more questions about the admin dashboard. Is that what you're saying?
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I mean, take note of that, because
we're looking at the backlog. Maybe we'll come up with the question that'll help us to come up with the questions to ask, but we're talking and we're not actually looking at the task by task, you know, and then based on their conversations with the clients, did the client say a whole lot needs to change there too. I don't know. You know,
okay, sorry. I'm just writing it down
cuz I know that they talked about a lot about changes to the landing page. But I don't know. Yeah. They were on the because of that. I don't know how focused they were on the admin page. I don't know if saying less about it is because there's less change or if it's just been less focus.
Right, right.
I just don't know that. This or that and we'll need to get clarity around that.
Yeah, and we could do that tomorrow. Yep, absolutely. All right. Other than that, from design, let's see. They're working on where they're working on they're working, or what's been done so far. They made their user stories. The prioritization of pages. Pardon burden? That Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was, that was exactly what I was just about to mention. Actually. They're focusing on information architecture to make sure everything makes sense and it's documented for future phases such as the site map, user flows. Yeah, that's what they're working on currently. And then afterwards, they're going to be working on the styling guide, reviewing landing pages that the client sent them and heading up the landing page. You said
styling guy what else was that?
About Oh, they're reviewing the landing page that Ryan sent them. Remember, because Ryan made changes. And did they look right? From the user? Yeah.
They they're, they've already received. Oh, okay. Are they not yet finished reviewing that's
as far as we know, there.
Right, because because the last change is from Ryan.
Yeah, dubbed it say that they expect to receive the landing page from design this week.
This week, right, right, right. Thank you for reminding me. Thank you. Yeah. Landing Page. Okay. Goal expectation is Yeah, landing page.
Design, hands on and off. To dev
this week. Did they do you recall any indication as to where in the week like, early or mid late?
No, Dev did not say and I don't think design even said
okay. Okay. So that to me is some indication that it's not probably not anticipated to be like a monday tuesday thing. No, I'm saying anticipate. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Cuz usually if you know that you can turn something around by Monday, Tuesday. You will have said it you know, that's all I'm saying about that. It's just Yeah, okay.
All right.
Yeah, that's pretty much all from design, we have to ask them about the admin dashboard. Ask more questions about that during the sprint planning, and then ask them where they are with the landing page. That way they'll hand it off to dev so dev can start working on it. Also, you know, Brenda needs to talk about stand ups. Yeah, anything else that is shooting she needs to mention.
Um, there was something else that Hold on one minute that I had shot tour. I don't think I got a response. But I will look and see if I did. Let me see.
If you could think of anything,
recordings, and then the calendar for the meetings. And that's like all like the kind of stuff that the yeah recording so standups recordings and calendar and I know she's working on the recordings because she's working on getting zoom you know from Morgan for ruminate. Right, right. That yeah, so. So really, it's more like updates on on these things. And in terms of the calendar us, I know you had brought that up. Elijah was using the calendar to post the meetings. Was it you or was it John?
Probably. Probably John. I don't think it was me.
But it's like one of those things none of us are really doing yet or maybe one team is doing it but like the rest of us aren't. So we do need to do that so that everyone can easily keep track of when the the teams are meeting and stuff. So yeah, those are like the three things that I had kind of thought about like that it would be good for her to to bring up and you know, at the beginning of the meeting, and then we dive into like I had started saying we dive into anything that's not like task level. For the product team, we then start first with anything that's a little higher level. Not quite task level, that's product related. And that's probably around I would say that's like around the stuff that you were talking about. Getting some clarity around some things right. Yeah. When Dev is getting something when design is going to be able to hand something off. Is design experiencing a roadblock? It that would be preventing them from from completing the what they need to do with the landing page so they can hand it off. You know, one roadblock which Borgias hopefully has stopped was that the that we were continuing they were continuing to get designs but Borgia kind of put hopefully as you know, gotten the client to understand how we need a hard stop and they need to be able to start working. So that was a roadblock that got addressed and hopefully, is that still working right you know, just right.
Right Angela?
She might be frozen for the moment. She Oh, I see. Yes.
Yes. So I was reading. I was reading the transcript for the design meeting. I saw something like color, like changing the color or something regarding color. So I don't know if you picked on that.
Yeah, that's a design changes. That Ryan was making.
Can you hear us Hello? Can you guys hear me? We can hear you. Can you hear us?
Hello? Hello?
We can hear you? Yeah. Can
you hear me?
Yeah. Can you hear?
Did you hear what I said? Yes.
Yeah, yes, yes. We heard what you said.
Okay, that's among the Okay.
Yeah.
Terms of the color changes that was about the landing page because Ryan the client decided to make some changes to it because he didn't like it
that's also Yeah, so that's a part of the whole thing with the landing page. It was the colors changed as well. Yeah. All right.
So in terms of the sprint planning, how should we How should we go about it? Like what's the order of things? I know you've talked about it with me but one Angela to hear it too.
Right? So so my thoughts and you know Elijah jumping in if you have some thoughts because this is going to run differently from the way it did with the projects I worked on before. So we're doing it more like how this project manager wants them to run. We're still not going to talk about stuff that's related to what what the project manager takes care of. So things like the standups like how we're going to hold the standups the recordings in the calendar. What we're going to do is we will come in as a product team and welcome everyone to the sprint planning session. We will let people know what we're going to talk about in the sprint planning session. What's to be discussed then we're going to give the pm an opportunity to talk about you know, important issues problems updates from her perspective. That are because those are not she'll be focusing on things that are not directly related to the product or the backlog itself. So that's like the three things we mentioned up here which is you know, three three things. We'd love to get an update from Borja on she may have something else in mind as well. Like she may have a fourth thing that she wants to bring up. Then at the border finishes with that then we'll move to kind of like those high level not quite not task level because the task level is going to be the the the backlog itself, but those higher level things that might be roadblocks, is there something someone needs in order to sorry,
are we gonna go from each team? So from here, we'll talk we will move on to design like, Oh, do you have any roadblocks and all that? Yeah,
I'm sorry. I should have said that. But yes, we'll we'll say like so design, bla bla bla you know, give them an opportunity. Say Where are you right now, in terms of we know what some of the what you were working on last week and we know what some of the issues were. And that'll give them a chance to let us know if they're still having a blocker on something that we can help them with. Or if it's something you know Borja is pm can help them with.
Right.
They say to us, Ryan gave us design changes on Monday. We don't know how to handle it. That obviously would have an impact. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So it's an opportunity to bring that stuff up into the, into the forefront. So I'm not trying to list every year. I'm just trying to kind of give a general sense. And then we'll ask them the same thing but again, it gives them a chance to update with where they are now. And, and then whether they're experiencing any, any blockers that's going to prevent them from digging in and accomplishing what they need to do for this sprint.
Okay, okay. And then
the other thing we need to be doing is because this is something we did not do in inclusive and we did not do in ruminate phase three, but it's highly recommended and that's having like a sense of a sprint goal. So this week, what we as a cross functional team want to accomplish is so let's be thinking of it in that way. And at the at the end, what we'd like to do is to be able to kind of state what is what the sprint goal is, like, collectively for the team. What we did in the previous two, and people don't always do that, but one of the benefits is so that we're thinking holistically and everyone not and people don't just get like totally tied down in what I'm doing. It's also thinking about how what I'm doing is is impacting what someone else is doing, you know, keeping that kind of Top of Mind.
So, are you suggesting, are we suggesting Are you suggesting that we talked about the sprint goal earlier on like before?
Well, I'm thinking is that what Okay, not just what I'm thinking but what normally happens if you're going to do a sprint goal is the goal is revealed during the conversation. So as product owners, we can't come and know like, you know, because we don't dictate people's work. Like that. And we also don't know 100% What's been going on with them over the last couple of days that we were out of contact with them, you know, so once you know where everyone is, then you can you can begin to see what a sprint goal is because the goal has to be mutually agreed upon. It's not something we can dictate and then everyone's like, Oh, okay, that's the goal, but we're not their managers. We're not their line managers. So like with everything, it's a collaborative process. The sprint goal is a shared goal, so everyone's gotta, which is why I don't know if we want to call it a sprint goal, or we just want to say like, oh, so our goal for this spread is which kind of you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so we just kind of reveal the sprint goal. After we talk with every team like we'll feel it
out and feel it out, right and bring it up in the air and see what people say about it. And then where we hear agreement, then we're like okay, so that's it great. And so once we go from the sort of high level, not task level in other words, then that's our opportunity. Then we dig into the backlog itself. So what I would ask is, is there anything that um, is high level that we know we should bring up tomorrow in the sprint planning? Well, we already did that. I'm sorry. Backwards,
you're you're talking about, like the admin dashboard, right? Like, for example,
yeah, like, yeah.
Now would we talk about that during the
Well, what we're looking for is like I said, like, like, like the higher level are you able to get to it or not able to get to it because of acts
on that's when we that's during?
Sorry, there's multiple voices. Can you repeat what you said?
I said, so in that discussion of the higher level things, is there something that are you going to are you going to be able are you going to like when do you think you're going to turn over the landing page? Are you experiencing any problems? Any blockers with being able to turn that over? When do you think you'll be able to turn that over to the to the dev team,
and now it'd be one design is updating they're giving their update? Right.
Right. And like we're asking a question, like, if they don't say it directly, we ask the question, but that's like a question that we have, which they will probably answer as they're giving their update. Okay. Yeah. But if it's not clear to us, we probe so that we get clear about it.
Got it. Got it. Okay. Now, in terms of the backlog, like after we talk about after we talked to design about their updates and bloggers tend to have about their updates and blockers and we we reveal, I guess what the spring goal would be so in terms of the backlog, how do we like get there like what happens?
We simply say, okay, great. All right. Now let's move to the backlog. And you know, look at the specific items in you know, in the order of is there you know, let's take a look at what's what's coming up. There's what's coming up, there's what they're working on, and then there's what's already done. And usually you just move from left to right, but
are you still there? Yeah, sorry. I'm
just writing it down. Oh, sorry. Yeah, you usually just move from left to right, you know, and you're looking at each item. And if it's in the, if it's in the backlog as it hasn't been addressed, but they're like oh, no, we actually got started on that. Then we move it to that, you know, like it's in progress.
Okay, got it. So yeah,
if something was like listed as done, but like it's about the landing page, and it was from last year, last phase we're probably got to move those back to either the like, it's in backlog backlog, or it's like, in process. Got it. Got it, because things changed. So where we thought we were with the landing page, we're not actually because the client has chat changes.
Okay. Let's take a look at the backlog right now from last FaceTime.
Yeah. Do you want to pull it up or the because I think you're better notion than I
yeah, I'm pulling it up right now. If I could find a product roadmap.
That's a great app, but I don't think it's a I think it's something we should take care of this week. Is like how I messed up that profile thing we need to do we need to do those profiles for
notion. Yeah, I'll mention that. Angelo? Yeah. Oh, mentioned that too, after this meeting.
Okay, cool.
Okay, I think I got it. Let me share my screen, okay.
All right.
All right. Can you hear me screen?
Yeah, we did make it bigger because
Sure. Yeah, forgot about.
Actually, let me unshare real quick. Okay, sure. Open Let me open it on. notion. actually added it. Right All right. Let's try this again.
sharing my screen 321
Let me know if you can't see it.
Like it's like it's too tiny.
Yeah, for some reason. Yeah. I don't know why. When you share it comes out tiny.
Because it's because my my monitor screen is big. That's why so it's like stretching out from the whole screen but with you like Yeah,
well, you guys, I'm gonna turn my camera off. And then that way I can, you know, lean into the screen. Yeah. So.
There we go. Okay. Let me lean into the screen. All right.
Yeah. So you see, see how we have done in progress up next?
Yes, Angela.
Is there a way to pan to word is there a way to pan to where the items are? Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you and towards the items are like
alright. Yeah, so the whitespace so I can see the items on the screen. That's whitespace
so product with what that may represent is everything that product said it was going to do it did. So with product you're looking at, Okay. Which product you're looking at what we produced?
Yeah, it's basically these last phase. And then when I scroll down, you'll see there'll be less whitespace. Let me scroll down to this.
We're going to need to add stuff to the backlog for us because because this backlog is reflecting what we did last year. Yeah. Last phase.
So this is yeah, this is designed Can you see this? Angela?
Can you give it Okay, cool.
Excuse me. I'll just say that next next week. Why don't I can do it. So the bigger Yeah, so yeah, thank you.
But yeah, so what are they doing?
Yeah, see the wind give feedback is on the backlog, but like
it's in progress, though. It was like they're not currently working on that.
Right, right. So I think that's going to have to move because it's changed, right? But But are we you know, I don't want to move stuff unless we're 100% sure about stuff. Because, yes, go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. You've got
so what I was thinking is I don't exactly know how to do this. A copy of this, I try to or I'll just ask the bridge if anything, like to copy this whole page and put it into Phase four so that we can make the proper updates
here but you just move it you just move it if if like it says in progress, right. And you're okay, let's give a for instance, why get why get feedback page? What what do you think the current status is? Is it actually a backlog item or is it actually in progress?
It's a
sense design told us that it's gonna come later. That should be sorry. My screen is like all messy. That should be a backlog item.
Right? Yeah.
Yeah, so basically, you move it back to where it belongs. So we're gonna have a lot of these items. And then we're you know, and then new items are going to be added both to the backlog but also as a next in progress. You know what I mean? So now you're now you get the idea, right?
Yeah. I don't know it can live.
Because if you Yeah,
yeah, we're doing this right. It's, um, it's not moving.
It's not Yeah, I'm
trying to move it. I supposed to
do you not have permission to move it?
It's I mean, it says I can edit this page. Yeah, it does. So you can
have you had detailed anything before and the notion Do you have no right.
Well, I added my picture and name and my LinkedIn.
And it says that he can edit this page. So for some reason, but for some reason that letting him edit, try typing something in. Yeah, try typing something in so we can. Yeah, so you could Yeah, if you can do that. Yes. If you can do that. You should be able to move so
sure, Ben.
And, oh, I guess it didn't move. What? Okay, it was a bug. It was a bug.
Oh, or maybe it's just lay Do you think there's just a delay?
Delay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it worked. It worked. So
now what I don't remember is what is cream. That's got to be a design term and I'm not familiar with it either of you.
Know, no, no. Okay.
All right. So what? Oh,
I think zone a part of the page. It says here. Infographics on the screen paths for why for why give feedback? So I think he's referring to just a part of, you know, the coloring of the of the prototype was green and cream, I think. So I think
yeah, it's not an abbreviation for something. It's literally the color.
Yes, yes. I think so. Oh,
being part of why give feedback. Okay. Okay. Oh, thank you. So when you opened it, Are we under? Yeah, we're under team hub. Phase four, right?
No, this is phase three. That's what I'll say.
Oh, because I'm looking. I see phase four up there.
Phase four. Oh, I ignore these tabs. I tend to have a lot of tabs open. Oh, oh, yeah.
Oh, okay. All right. So now okay. So I see what you're saying. We do need to copy,
like copy this page onto the floor. I was looking up here and I thought we were in it.
Yeah, no, no, we're not we're not
sorry. No worries. No worries.
So how do you think we should like run this backlog session?
Well, we start it just in order we start with product. So we need to add for our so
start with product. Yeah, we started.
Yeah, we discussed. What? Well, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, that that was one thing I said we can definitely do hours, but we need to take a look and have some feedback for the others
and we need to have in mind like what what is missing? And you know, we're aware of the fact that some stuff that is listed as done is not actually done because because of the changes put it that way. shorthand way are we in were you able to make were you able to copy the page and move to to make and paste for?
I actually have no idea. I don't know. I don't know how.
So we're gonna have to figure that out before tomorrow, right?
Yeah, all right. Just ask Marsha. Yeah.
Well I mean, we can try looking it up, right. Yeah, I know, rather than, like if you're worried that you know, if we monkey with it, we'll mess it up. Then you could ask boards or how to do that. Yeah, um, when I came in, the page was already set up. And so I never saw how to do that. And then inclusive didn't go multiple phases. So I've never actually seen how to do that. So I don't know how to do it. Okay.
And if I don't feel confident I'll just,
yeah, so what we might want to do rather than writing unfortunately, right, rather than writing directly on the backlog, because then we're, you know, we really want to do it in Phase four. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Is so it's the same backlog. It's a copy and then we continue iterating is we maybe use the chat there to to list what we're going to put down on the backlog. core product product.
Okay. All right.
This page Oh, sorry. Yeah. And that's what we have to figure out how to do.
Yeah, I'm not sure how to duplicate this page. If I'm being honest.
Are you Angela, do you know absolutely. 100% how to duplicate this pain?
Oh, that's yes. I think I should know my way around it. I just have to check out Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
In the meantime, in order to make some make some good progress, so we're ready for tomorrow. Maybe what we'll do is we'll just put their whiteboard on this. Or that's probably just zoom. We just have the chat, huh?
Yeah, we just have the chat.
Yeah, otherwise you have to get additional add ons, but okay. All right. Okay, so so just working from the chat. We're going to talk about crap. What am I doing?
Okay, there we go. Okay, there we go. So
we can talk about we can work backwards it might be it's probably easier for us to work backwards with what did what did we get done? submitted to the client. Are you guys still there? Yeah. Okay. submitted to the client.
MVP, MVP, plus
did they ever get back to you on that?
I don't believe so. And I was trying to check. But I didn't have time to check because we had the interview and hold on. We'll check now.
No,
okay. All right. That's something that's worth mentioning during tomorrow's split, Sprint, planning session, celebrate, okay, like, reach out to the client. Right?
Or we can reach out I mean, I sent the message. I can include it.
But yeah, yeah, you got to make sure you include her. Okay, What type
is it again? Um, yes, do you right.
Sorry. Give me a sec
okay,
hold that thought I'm going to check right now. I want to see the time change but I'm not sure I need to
get did I thought maybe the link changed and that it was still two o'clock? Yes. Payment
of 2pm e s t there you go. Yeah.
So it wasn't a time change. I think the link changed or something because I did get another message. But it was the same time
that still works for you. Angela.
What is car is
last name
as why should you know car is last name. I'm trying to check another way. Oh,
Cara? The person that we interview. are no no. Tara. The client the client? Sorry. No, I don't know your last name. I actually don't know either. Their last names. Okay.
Let me see. Easy way
to Okay. All right. Um,
Cara?
I think Brian is under Ryan KK on Slack. Oh, right. Ryan k k right. Click
Yeah, I don't have a response from them. Okay. Okay, so yeah, so that's, you know, that's a blocker for us and for the project. Yeah.
Okay. We're gonna
there's gonna be a lot of things that will be discussed tomorrow because I'm reading through the Leeds Leeds private channel right now. They met they met with a client and the client did not think about a lot of stuff and we have to start thinking about it. Okay. And now John is saying Welcome to The Real phase zero. So it sounds like there's going to be a lot of things that will be mentioned tomorrow.
Well, that's good. I mean, you know what, we'll let all that messy stuff happen early, right. Yeah, get cleared up. I mean, yeah, it's the not fun part, but it's the necessary it's necessary. Yeah. So that's okay. It is what it is. And we got to go through it right. Gotta go through it to get over it.
Yep, yep.
I will have to read that when I when I return. All right, but just who? What are you looking at so I know what to look at.
And I come home. What am I
briefed myself say? It again? What am I looking at? Right. You said where are you what you were reading from?
The leads, private channel.
Leads channel Okay. Leads channel. Okay. Okay, well, you know, now, welcome to the real world to the real world. Yeah. Okay. Does
that. Does that work with you, Angela? I just okay. Yeah, cool. Okay, we'll
work through it. We'll work through those things. Like I said, Good to good for stuff to come up early. Is there anything? Is there anything in there pertinent to the backlog for product then that message, no. Okay. All right. So as a product team, what did I was putting down in here? Oh, we have 10 minutes left. Okay. All right. We got 10 minutes left you guys. Okay, so I said MVP plus vision. Met with so still haven't
the product goals no response from client. So with Borja on as well. At the CCC you know what I mean by that? Yeah. And met with design and Dev.
Okay, I just met with design and Dev out there. I need to go into Yeah, that's not like that. Let's see, what else did we do? We produced what else did we produce? For them? God last week seems like 1000 years ago. What else do we produce last week? Let you guys last week,
you mentioned mission vision project goal.
Let me look
can you say why do you have so far to Anita
it's on the chat you see
which chat in
the gloomy chat. Yeah.
I don't see it.
I don't see either.
Ah, I know why I'm so sorry. All right. I did not hit there. Okay, I'm using it like it's a whiteboard. Yeah.
Okay.
And I don't know if if we should actually I mean, it's not really I mean, that's, that's one of the higher level things we can talk about is where we are in terms of the hiring. That was something else I forgot to bring up.
I don't know if that's worth mentioning. And
not Yeah.
No, I wasn't about the backlog. I'm in the higher level before the backlog.
Oh, yeah. When Berger knows our project management thing. Yeah.
Yeah. So all right. So we have those things. If you guys can find something else that we worked on, you know, Slack it okay.
I guess Aside from this, we could say that we're currently working on the product work roadmap still.
Well, I mean
Okay, so
yeah, that's something we could really focus on for our next meeting on Wednesday.
So but so we would put that on up next Right. Or in progress, you're saying in progress. Put that in progress. Yeah. In Progress. So how would you phrase what progress we've made on it? We talk
that's, that's a good question. We talked about what design is working on what what dev needs from design?
Why so we're going to be Yeah, oh, yeah. The design what design is working on and what they need and their needs. Okay. What just making sure we got an answer. You know what I mean? Yeah. Same with Dev. I'm writing a short and you guys Same with
the alignment. Next meetings. Next meeting.
Next product meeting.
We'll have a draft. But again, how are we having more than a draft of the roadmap if we still don't have but I'm an I'm anticipating that by the time but that by Wednesday. That's our next meeting, right? Yeah, we'll have Yeah, we'll have. We'll have a response from some founders.
Yeah. If anything that's considered a blocker. So yeah.
Yeah. Well, Borgia is going to help us to Yeah, to push them to give it to give it to us. Okay. All right.
Well, that's product. We've taken a look at. At design, we did not take a look at Dev.
I mean, David doesn't have much. I mean, they don't have nothing in phase three. So
Right? No, exactly. But there's stuff that can be added to a backlog. What's on the backlog for them. If anything,
nothing, if anything, Oh, all right now right now. Yeah.
But it seems capabilities.
Yeah, exactly what Angela said.
Say it again, Angelica. I'm gonna write that down. And I'm why. What did you say, Angela? Angela.
I said, Angie is fine. I said
jelica I'm so sorry. Sorry, Angela. Yeah, no, I got no problem. Saying Angela. I don't know why I said Angelica. Out of my mind. That's why. Deb, what was it you said about them? Angela?
I said they were reviewing the team's capabilities on the languages and frameworks they want to use. So we're varying the team's capabilities on, on on frameworks and languages. That makes any sense? Yes.
Does frameworks and language doesn't mean that you know, we might not tweak it a little bit. But yeah, I think that's very clear. Thank you. Good add anything else you guys and and you know, we can work? We can work on this asynchronously? Yeah. But it gives us a start. So now everyone, now as a product team, we've all had a chance to take a look at at the backlog. You know what it looks like you know how it operates. We know that we need to figure out how to make a copy of it and move it and and and paste it into space to copy into ruminate for we need to add our stuff to the backlog. I'm sending a message a DMing the two of you and that's what we will do for right now. We will communicate about the backlog together. I'm trying to find one of those shared messages between the three of us I might just need to start a new message. That's yeah. Oh no, there it is. There you are.
Okay. There we go. Pace. Okay. Okay,
just so we're prepared for the sprint planning tomorrow. This is what we're talking about. So we're gonna welcome everyone and then Mirja is going to do her project management stuff like, Oh, what are we going to do with the standups? The recording the calendars, and afterwards we're going to mention about our new apprentices. Oh, yeah. Jonah, we got new apprentices. So
yeah, company, Angela. So you apprentices we got a great crop with you and the other apprentices. So we're in the process just so you know, of contacting the apprentices. So kind of keep it under your hat until we you know, are able to say more, but but the people who will be joining you. Yeah, between you and the other apprentices. We're going to be in great shape, where we have a strong strong team.
Okay, yo, thanks. Yeah. And yeah.
Yeah, yeah, then the PMs, our product. The product team will talk about our updates and issues that we have or blockers that we have. And then design we'll go ahead and talk about they'll update us on where they are right now. Some blockers they have. Same thing with Dev afterwards. And then once we feel out that whole conversation, I guess we'll reveal the sprint goal and then from there, we'll go into the backlog. I will we'll go. We'll go from each team starting with let's just start with design to be honest. And then we'll go
why don't why would we start with design? I mean, there's probably a good reason I'm it's not hitting me right this moment.
