11:31AM Mar 20, 2021
Hello, welcome to mediumship matters with me, Hannah Macintyre, I've just looked over at the COC. And as I'm recording this, it's 444. What a sign. So we're on episode 12. Hello, and welcome. And how are you all, I hope you're really, really well. So I've got a few different things that I want to talk about today, a little list in front of me that as always, we'll see how it goes. So often, I've learned with this already that you know, things that I think will take two minutes to talk about, I end up talking about for 20 minutes, and we run out of time. So today, one of the things that's been coming up with people that I've been reading for this week, and working with this week, is the idea of how do we know when it's spirit versus us our imagination. And I'd love to give you a definitive list here where I could just go, Well, you know, it's spirit when this happens. And that's all great. But one of the things I always try to do is be honest, and I want to be really, really honest today and say, I don't always know. You know, I'd love to be able to sit here today and say to you, I'm always 100% sure when spirit, I'm in the presence of the spirit world, but I'm not. And one of the things that I think only really helps you on your journey is when you take the leap to start working with other people. Because when you take the leap to start working with other people, then when you feel the desire to say to somebody, I know that you're moving house, and they say we are we are and you've never met them before and you've never spoken to them before, then you know you got that information from their energy or from the spirit world, you know that you were working mediums, mystically or psychically, depending on on what you're working with. But until you take that leap to work with other people, it's always really, really hard to know. And I'll tell you my theory on this. So we are all brought up, I think to believe that the spirit world is separate, that we when we die, if we believe that life continues, we go somewhere else. And we go off to heaven. And we look down on our loved ones who are still here. Now, I think it's a bit more sci fi than that. And it's more about dimensions within dimension as worlds within worlds. You know, you've all seen the matrix. And so what I think happens is that the spirit world, they shift into their energy body into their soul, and they are around us all the time. And I think if we could feel them all the time, it would be too much for us at this stage in our evolution and our consciousness. You know, we know that there were lost civilizations, Atlantis, Lemuria, and places like that, where we could communicate freely with the spirit world. But in, in this world, we are a different type of consciousness. We're very physically based. And I believe that our loved ones in spirit don't really go anywhere. You know, and I may have said this on this podcast before, if you were to move into spirit tomorrow, and your loved ones were still here, and you had a choice, whether you would be off, I don't know, sitting on a cloud watching down on them, or in the presence around them for every moment of every day. I think we all know what we pick, we don't want to be with them. And I don't think it's any different. So when you start that mediumship journey, it's really, really hard. Because you're constantly doubting, you're constantly doubting, whether it's real, whether you can actually feel somebody there or not. And I think that's just how it goes. You just learn to trust what you're getting. And share it and hope that it's right. And the more that you trust it the more you don't hold on to it, the more you don't hold on to it, the more the more often it is correct because you've not got in the way of it. And so the better that your flow becomes, the better the evidence becomes. So there's no sort of quick way of being able to tell you, whether it's you or spirit, I'm afraid it's it's just something that you learn with practice.
I think that you get a stronger Connect To them with practice, and then it's easier, and you do get more of a sort of sense that they're with you. But I still wouldn't call it particularly profound, I would call it incredibly subtle. And, you know, the only two times in my life that I have really felt the presence of the spirit world physically felt it has been the two times that I have given messages to people when I wasn't seeking the spirit world. So once was the older gentleman that I mentioned on the podcast previously, and once was my friend's mom, who had really sadly died. And she had an appointment scheduled with me, I think it was two or maybe three days following her mum's passing before the funeral. And we didn't expect her to come in, we weren't even going to try to communicate with her. And she was so powerful. And so intent to get that message to her daughter that she was okay and still around. And that was the two times where I've really felt spirit when I've been, you know, in my normal life, but when I'm doing mediumship, when I'm doing readings when I'm communicating with your loved ones, or your spirit guides, it's just so subtle, barely perceptible. And I think that's because our consciousness is not evolved enough to be able to feel them like we'd like to. And I was having a lovely conversation with an amazing couple of clients I've had this week, that's some really amazing people on their journeys, who are wanting to start opening up more and more, but just feel like they're not getting the information that they should, from their teachers out there. And so I just want to talk about a few things that I found out when I was learning, because there's a lot of sort of assumed knowledge in mediumship. And I also think there's a lot of sort of smoke and mirrors with a lot of mediums. So the first thing I want to say talk about is gifts. You hear that term bandied around all the time, are you gifted, I'm gifted Are you gifted. Now, this one is always really difficult, because I do believe that being able to communicate with the spirit world is a gift. It's completely changed my life completely. But it's not a gift that belongs to me, that doesn't belong to you. I absolutely completely and utterly believe that everybody has the ability to connect to the spirit world. Certain people will be better at different things at different times. But we all have the ability, it's not something magical bestowed upon the Chosen Few. So I know I've covered that before, but I just really wanted to cover it again, in case someone just comes in and listens to this podcast, because I really feel that that message needs to get out there. Because what that is, it's a little bit of that old sort of selling. It's the I I'm better than you, I've been bestowed something by the spirit world, I'm more magical than you. And it's also a really easy way to get a good result in a psychic reading. Because if you work with somebody in a psychic reading, and you say to them, like it's an exclusive club, you know, oh, I feel like you can connect to spirit to a Yeah, then they're gonna leave feeling like they're really, really special. And think you're amazing. But actually, if you're not backing that up with any sort of real advice, or real inspiration from the spirit world, I mean, that's just the easiest thing to say to people, isn't it to get a good result because you they feel like that they're special. And that's all anyone really wants isn't it is to be told that they're special. And yeah, so you can't really great if you do that there's a top tip for you. If you decide you want to be a lazy medium, you can just tell everyone that comes to see you that you feel that they make a really good healer or a really good they've got the ability to connect to the spirit world. Now, I do say that to people in readings, and I will have said that to people in readings. But it will have been in amongst a lot of other information that hopefully was evidential and they can understand it. You know, it happens a lot. You can always see it when there's a medium demonstrating. And they've sort of run out of welly. They'll start sort of picking people in the audience and just saying things like,
have you thought about working with the spirit world? Because it really, you know, it does help. So, yeah, just just my little thought there. So it's not really a gift. I'm not really special. I'm special in lots of ways, let me assure you that I am not not particularly more special than you, because I can connect to the spirit world. And that, for me is important. So when I started sitting in the first development circle I sat in, and we were doing an exercise where we were inviting our spirit guides to stand at the edge of our energy, and then step into our energy and then step out of our energy and then step in step out doing the hokey Cokey with spirit guides. And we did this for weeks. And I felt nothing. I felt like I was broken. And I went to my friend's house who got me into all this. And I said, you know, Oh, I can't feel them. I can't feel them. And she said, Oh, well try again. Now, blah, blah, blah. And I tried and I couldn't feel them. And I practised and I couldn't feel them. And it was just getting to the point where I've got I'm the exception to the rule. I'm defective. My spirit guides aren't here at all. Well, I heard one of them. And it was it was it was Meranti. My one of my lady guides, the first guide I ever saw. And it was like she was pushing her face through like rubber is the only way I can describe it. And, and she went, can you see me now, and it made me jump and I nearly fell off the chair. But she'd had to work so hard to be able to be heard by me. Because my expectation was that I would really feel it, I would feel it like you feel it when a human stands too close to you, you would feel it like you hit feel it when someone gently places a hand upon your shoulder. And it's more subtle than that. And the only reason they pulled out all the stops for me to be able to see that and and hear that like that was because I was about to give up. And I had put weeks in at this stage. So and that's the other thing I want to talk about seeing and hearing spirits. Now I've always been really inquisitive. And sometimes with that spiritual folk, that doesn't go down very well, because I'm sure people thought I was a right little upstart. But I'm honestly not, too. I've just got lots of questions. And you know, one of the things that I found was that people when you would join a group would say how they were saying, seeing or hearing spirit. But if you actually ask them, you know, are you so you're seeing them? You're seeing them with your physical eyes. They're stood next to me, and you can see them, like you can see me, they'd go Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, I see them in my mind. And you'd go, you can hear them. You can hear them in their voice. What does their voice sound like? What do they sound like if they got an accent? And they go, Oh, no, no, no, I can't hear them, hear them. It's my own voice in my head. But I know Spirit are talking to me. And that's great. I use the word see and hear you've just heard me use it. However, it's really important that we communicate to people at the beginning of their spiritual journey at the start, that when we're talking about seeing and hearing except for the exceptions, who are few and far between, for the majority of us, it's seeing in our mind's eye, and it's hearing in our own voice in our heads. So there's so many people I've been meeting this week who've been feeling sort of disillusion like they're the ones that can't do it like there's something wrong with them, their connections not good enough. And actually, their connection is fine. It's their expectations of how mediumship should work. And I do think there's a lot of mediums and have been a lot of mediums who propagate that it's like that, so that they can remain on that sort of elusive, I've got more of a gift than you I can see more than you I'm I'm more special than you. And that's not the spiritual way. So I do think this new age of energy that we're in this Age of Aquarius is very much about moving us forward in a honest and truthful dialogue about what it actually feels like when you're working with the spirit world. And I'll tell you what it feels like when you're working with the spirit world. In the most part, it feels like you could be sat in a room by yourself, making it up like a nutter. I hope that helps.
The other thing that I wanted to cover Hover actually was the old, I've seen spirits since I was a child. Now, as you will know, if you've listened to all this podcast, I did not believe that I was seeing spirit when I was a child. And I did have some spiritual experiences when I was little, and I did hear people calling my name and I did. I now know that spirit has been around me, all of that time guiding me helping me inspiring me trying to get through my thick skull when something's not a good idea. However, this seeing spirit since I was a child, imagine you'll these little kids walking into a room and there's an old lady in a rocking chair going Hello, dear me, I used to live here before your parents me. And I don't think for the most part, that it's like that. Now there are some people I know, who had very, very spooky experiences, because they were far more open than I. And I you know, I have just read Doris Stokes, with whispers, voices, voices, sorry, Doris, voices, compilation, I have no doubt that Doris could see and hear spirit the way that she was saying it. But what's happened is, more and more people have sort of rolled with that I think Doris was very unique in her connection. And she was part of a movement of change of mediumship. So she her soul came here to be able to do those things to open up mediumship to more people. And, you know, sometimes Yes, I have seen spirit and sometimes Yes, I have heard spirit. But for the most part, it is a voice in my head, my voice in my head, my thoughts, the images that it feels like my imagination is producing. And just because you may not think you saw spirit, when you were a child doesn't mean that you can't work with the spirit world, it doesn't mean that you haven't been blessed with the divine gifts of connection. We've all got the divine gifts of connection. So if you're starting to doubt yourself, I hope this sort of just makes you feel a bit better. You know, I would love to tell you that I'm you know, I just know that spirit here and I'm all good. And let's just go for it. I'm not, I just know that they won't let me down. And I've, I've learned to trust them. And I've learned to trust myself. But that trust has not come from a physical presence of physical feeling that trust has come from leaping into the abyss going I could be making this up. And it making sense to people repeatedly for hundreds and 1000s of readings, as I've practised. Okay. So again, you know, as I always say, please do drop me a message. Let me know your thoughts on this. Let me know how your journey is expanding. But you know, I always think it's good to be respectful of your teachers. Absolutely. Be respectful of your teachers. But you don't have to take on board, everything they're saying. And it's good to question. It's good to ask your guides to find ways to inspire you with the information that you need. It's good to go back to yourself to see how things sit with you. Don't just go with everything that somebody's saying. As gospel. And you know, this is something funny enough that my dear friend and colleagues Sue, and I were talking about earlier, is truth. So, if you follow me on Facebook, you'll know that I put a post up at this week, following the mag Megan and Harry interview. And the I can't quite get some people, some people I can to understand that actually. It doesn't matter whether they're telling the truth, whether they're lying, whether they're attention seeking, whether they're angry, whether they're fearful, whether they're all of the above, is completely and utterly irrelevant. What is relevant, is treating them with compassion, treating them from one human being to another human being with love and without judgement. And you know, Sue and I were talking about this earlier and about how, you know, one person's truth can be another person's complete lie without anyone actually intending
to lie or mis mislead, you know, Because we're all coming at things through our own filter from our own perspectives from our own understandings, you know, you think about when you send a text message to somebody, and they're having a bad day, and they think you're having a go at them. And when you read it back, you can work out how they got that from it. But they had seen it through their filter, they'd heard whatever they were hearing because of where they were at. So if you were then to stand up and do a truth test thing, you know, a lie detector, that's the word, then you know, they you probably both paths, because you're being truthful in the fact that you didn't send it with that intention. And they're being truthful that they read it with that filter replied, it doesn't mean that that lie has happened, it just means that you're both coming at things from a different perspective. And there is so much judgments. And I just wanted to cover that today. Because I've been having I've been being schooled by the spirit world on Judgement this week. So let me just tell you a little story about what happened this week. So I was taking Lord Monti for his morning work, walk. And we walk around a village at the road from us, we walk through the words and through the fields and up through the village and then back home. And as we walk through the village, there was a car and it had six children all in the car, various ages. And it had the mom and the dad. And they had the mom was out of the car. And the doors and the windows were open and their kids were wailing, screaming, and I thought, and you know what, I was judgmental. And I will fully admit this team. And I thought, Oh, God, listen to those kids. They know they've got to go back to school today. What is wrong with them? And I sort of walked past that really like, Oh, good grief, what a noise. I know when you say out loud, you can't believe how you'd act. How many? How many times a day, do you have thoughts that you would never want anyone else to hear. But I'm trying to sit in the truth and share them with you. Anyway, as I got nearer, I realised that the mom and the dad were having an incredibly heated uncomfortable argument in front of their children. And their children were crying because they were so stressed and upset. And you know, a plethora of really bad language in front of their kids. And they were obviously really, really stressed and really, really involved in their own story. But it just it broke my heart. Because those kids were going to go to school and one of them that like they were about four. And they were going to spend the whole day at school in the first week back following homeschooling. I think it was the first day back at school, it might have been the second and with their parents having gone into school, dropping them off, effing and jeffing each other, screaming at each other about cheating, the mum refusing to get in the car, and they were going to be and you know, I walked past as quickly as I could, I just felt so bad that I had judged those children. And from an energetic perspective, what I did was, I felt someone in need, and I sent them judgement. Isn't that horrendous? And so I was trying to take it back and I was invoking angels and I was trying to send love to them. And you know, but the fact of the matter is, it was a really good lesson for me. Because we don't know what other people are going through. And I was too quick to be human. And you know, I'm fine with it. Because this is the journey you can't blame yourself for having a human reaction to something. But it's really, really important that we start trying to evolve, that we start trying to hold a space for each other to make mistakes. So last podcast I was talking about, you know, letting people fix their own problems, empowering them, telling them you believe in letting them find their own way and supporting them. But actually part of that process is letting people make mistakes and not taking it personally. You know, let unless it personally impacts you. But there are so many people now getting personally
offended by things that actually are nothing to do with them that don't matter to them. at all. Now, if you, you know me, you know, I'm very pro LGBTQIA Plus, you know, you know that that is a big, big passion of mine, that everybody should be able to be who they want to be, and love who they love. And that's how it should be, you know. And while we're just talking about that, can I just say, in my experience, I know we like to give assign angels genders. But as far as I'm concerned, when you actually spend time with angels, you might pick up a masculine or feminine energy from them. But they, they didn't have agenda. So all of this ridiculous stuff that we get caught up in, in labelling and being angry, but people get so upset about that, even though it doesn't impact their lives at all. Why do you care? Why do you care? I just don't get it. If it's gotten if it has no impact on your life, and you are allowed to live your life how you wish, then why can't you allow others to live their lives and not just how they wish, but how they are? Anyway, get off my soapbox. But I think that's something that we all need to address within ourselves. And the key with judgement, the funny thing is, isn't it is that you're actually judging a part of yourself that you're not comfortable with that you haven't healed, that, you know, people who are happy, and well rounded and filled with love and filled with hope. Don't judge other people, or at least not all the time. So if you're judging somebody, that means there's something going on for you to look at within your self. And I know that I'm in a changeable space at the moment. And I know I'm a little bit frustrated, because I like to know where I'm going. And at the moment, it's certainly a period for me where I can't get a real idea of what the spirit world want me to do next. So I'm in a holding pattern. And it's a nice holding pattern. It's not a bad one. But it presses my human buttons, that I can't make plans that I don't know what's going to happen, I don't know where they want me, you know, so I've got my own stuff that I'm bringing here into my interactions with people. And so I'm just asking that we all just try and allow people to have space to make mistakes, just like we would hope that people would allow us to have chances to make mistakes, space to make mistakes. You know, I went into business with a friend of mine a few years ago, and I knew it wasn't going to work out. I knew it from the very beginning. And I kept pushing that thought away and hoping that it would be okay. And you know, I was completely in my ego, she had some stuff going on with her. And I got into I went into my saviour complex and I went into my, I can help you live a better life, I'm going to help you kind of thing. And I couldn't find my voice. And this went on for months. And I got more and more entangled in it with me not being able to find my voice. And then eventually, I had to say for various reasons that it wasn't going to work. And they were really, really upset with me. Now, if you were to speak to her, she would tell you that I'm a horrible person, that I'm not spiritual at all, that I let her down that I cost her money, that I'm selfish and unkind. And from her perspective, she will be telling you the truth. From my perspective, if you see me through all of that, you'd know how much it costs me emotionally, financially, mentally, you would know how much I tried to make it right. You would know that, you know, I accepted when I just couldn't accept defeat. But you would know how much you know how much I've thought about that tried to do the right thing. Now it doesn't mean that she's wrong, because I did treat her like that. And it was a mistake, and I should have known better. And I yeah, you know, that's how it goes. But, you know, I'm grateful for those mistakes,
because I've learned from them, and they are mistakes that I will never make again. And every time I feel myself slipping into those patterns that cause those problems. I know, I am strong enough now to vocalise what I need to vocalise and say what I need to say. So, you know, we are here to learn and most of the most part, we all learn from the mistakes we all learn from the things that we shouldn't have done that we did that blew up in our face. So therefore, we don't want to be judged for our worst day. We shouldn't judge anybody else for theirs. So I shouldn't have judged those children crying in the car. And I shouldn't judge their parents either for arguing, everybody is just doing the best that they can with the skills that they have in the emotional state that they are in, in this moment. I've had moments of brilliance, I've had moments of absolutely rubbish, human anger, ego stuff, because that's what we are, we're here to be a mixture of all of those things. You can't be one without the other. You can't be all spiritual, you're not living a human existence. So you just have to try and hope that experiences like me, with those kids are few and far between. So yeah, that's kind of what I'm wanting to talk about this week was just trying to allow ourselves because it all starts with self. And but also allowing others the chance to make mistakes, to not get it right first time. And to try not to hold on to those things. Because, you know, people do hold on to stuff that doesn't serve a purpose. That is purely because their ego is a bit damaged. So they want to punish somebody. And actually, you know, trying as much as we can to be understanding, just as we would love and others to be understanding to us. And if we're not able to be understanding, forgiving ourselves in that moment team. So we're, yeah, there we go. Another podcast done. I've still got a huge list of things to talk about. But, of course, I would still really, really like to hear from you. If you've got any comments, any thoughts? Any questions, and I just want to give a shout out and a big hug back to Marcel from Holland, who's been listening from day one has sent me such a lovely message earlier it made my day. So yeah, hopefully you've all enjoyed that and I will see you on the next one. Have a lovely day.