as the founder of my nonprofit, I will go to a lot of workshops and training to be a nonprofit, because it's still a business, right? But there are more layers to it. Right? So I've had businesses, I know how to run a business, this was a whole nother monster, right? So I will go to training, and I will be the only if maybe one other person of color in the room, right? And then you're learning how to run this organization. But no one looks like you, right? And then like I said before, our organization's mission was to help African American adults, right? So it's like, you know, that's not really the hot topic. And you know, I'm not discarding anything but you know, US animals, like, I love animals, like, you know what I mean? So, so it's kind of like it, it was uncomfortable, right? And we as humans, no one likes to be uncomfortable, right? But in that moment, it's not about anyone being uncomfortable. It's about the greater impact, right? So I think we just need to focus on that instead of the diversity of how someone thinks or, or assumptions, assuming, oh, well, this is what this is, or this is how this is like, you don't know, like, meet people where they are. So that was one thing for me it was uncomfortable to, because I know there were professionals of color in those industries. And I would just always say, Well, why why aren't anyone here? Why isn't anyone teaching this stuff? You know? And so that was one of the dots that connected it. And then we are talking about, you know, diversity and nonprofit. So, um, I found a stat from boardsource, right? 2017 follow their stuff a lot. And then it says that 87% of CEOs in the world position national organizations are Caucasian, right? And then you have 6% are African American, 4%, Hispanic, and then 3%. Asian. So it's like, okay, those are the CEOs of these nonprofit organizations, right? And then, but when you look at because my background is in advertising and marketing, right, so same marketing material, that's not reflected. It's always minorities in the picture. Like, it's like, oh, we need your help, you know, like, so. So it's kind of a disconnect, there is almost, like, exploiting, right. And as a woman of color, that's how I feel about it. Right? It's like nonprofits are to be about inclusion and diversity. But you're not, you're talking it, but you're not walking yet. Right. So we all know, nonprofits are really the board of directors are the ones that make the decisions. And the CEO is boots on the ground. They make it happen, right. So let's look at the stats on that. And I got this from the impact of diversity report. 78.6% of board of directors are Caucasian, 7.5% are black. 4.2% are Latino, and 2.6 are Asian. So there's a huge disconnect there. Right. So the people who are making the decisions are not connected to the communities that they're serving, right? And again, it's all about impact. But how can you meet me where I am? And you don't understand me? You don't understand what I go through. Right. So yeah, that's part of why collective impact was definitely needed. It's not a new concept by any means, right? It's not a new concept, just tailored to be African Americans. communities of color, it's more of a new concept.