so the answer. As you can imagine, depends on the community. In, the indigenous communities. They usually already have like a representative or something like council of elders and so on who would be. This is, we were just talking earlier today with with John like this is the role of what would be a village leader, but really where the gap and the challenge lies here is that, who wouldn't normally be this traditional person that everybody wants to follow the Pied Piper of the community, so to speak. It's usually not not the person who sits and dabbles with crypto trading and wants to plug in the hardware wallet, and enjoys using, using the floppy disk kind of ledger to just do transactions, right. So, or, then they might actually enjoy going to a region network forum and just talking their heart out, may or may not right but so so so that's, that's really the gap there, right. And. And our approach has been to have a try to identify a person who has the mandate from the village leader, but is already has some level of digital literacy or wants to be, and is eager to do that. So we can train them, and then I, and they are trusted enough in the community that they can work along with the village leaders or others in the community. And how is that working is. So for the pilot indigenous community, and this is this is Patrick he runs the Akita card validator his wife he is a vice president of the archwire tribal nation, his brother in law is the president and. And it's not been super easy, right, because even though he said Patrick is the intermediary here, healing on her brother are sort of like the leaders, and Patrick clearly has the mandate from both of them, but even so, there is a thing, right, where it's for, it's falling apart right now is, is the link between Patrick, and the rest of the folks, by being able to bring them on board to, for instance, participate in the network discussion, discussion strategy, or so on. This there's a lot of cultural gap and everything else that exists. And we also need to prove kind of the proposition of it like that, hey, if, if you, if instead of Patrick sitting and operating the tokens if you can do it yourself, and you can vote with your tokens, then each person can have an individual say and talk about these other projects that they want happening in the community and that might be the return is is one aspect that's yet to be proved. It's sort of a hypothesis on our end, but it's not something that, that I think we've effectively communicated or, or it's not a shared vision. The second part of the shared vision, which is really missing and that's why I put that image up there is just bringing the multiple stakeholders together for common regenerative projects, farming communities and indigenous communities have a lot of pride, and they should. It's, it's rightfully so. And at the same time for something that's beneficial climate impact, they need other stakeholders, if the community in Ecuador, they identify with the river that flows through the community, but for them to really be able to steward it they probably needs to scientists who, who might know what is the water quality, how to clean it up. And, you know, developers who can work with maybe water sensors and sensors on the ground and