We are back with another episode today. We are excited to talk about this topic, which seems to be on everybody's mind. And I think is pretty interesting. And the question is, does everybody have trauma. And the way I think about it, Wendy, is that having had a traumatic experience does not automatically make you diagnoseable with post traumatic stress disorder. And so when we're talking about trauma, in our program, I'm always talking about events that have occurred that have been so overwhelming, that we didn't have a way of coping with them. And our nervous system was so overwhelmed that as part of the result of the traumatic event, we have an altered sense of self or sense of the world. And I would say that, yes, everybody has had some events, if not multiple events, that have altered their subconscious understanding about themselves as lovable, worthy, worthwhile, valuable, that sort of thing. And so I know that some people disagree strongly. But that's the premise that I come from having started my work in 99, with abused children, and continuing work with children who have high anxiety. And sometimes the, the kids and teens I've worked with, with high anxiety, their anxiety causes trauma, because it interferes in their relationship with their caregivers. And they hear a lot of times that they need to not worry about things, and that they're being silly and that sort of thing. So the way I think about trauma is that it is something that occurs, usually in relationship. And it has a negative impact on our relationship with ourselves with others and with our higher power. What are your thoughts about trauma?