with their inner life with their spiritual life. That in the long term, sometimes it's more Much more beneficial than the fixing of a particular problem. So instead of fixing on related to attending, the appreciative mode is nurturing, we want to nurture what's there. And the utilitarian mode because it's pragmatic, pragmatic and focusing on an outcome and sometimes wanting to be efficient, there's often a strong need to know. And those people who just want to get things done, just want to know how to do it, the appreciated mode, there's less need to know. And, in fact, there's an appreciation of the value of not knowing of showing up with beginner's mind with not knowing mind, showing up without knowing a lot. Which means can mean that because I'm there with not knowing, I'm not bringing my preferences, my projections, my bias on and putting it on the situation, that has to take my expectations, my desires on it, I'm here just to be open not to know and to trust emergence to trust what's here, and to learn what's here, to take in the circumstance situation and the person in their fullness. Rather than being ahead of what's happening with my, my, you know, my own agenda. So the utilitarian mode is more about efficiency. And often, excluding what is unnecessary, we think is unnecessary. I would like to think the appreciative mode is more about cooperation than efficiency, more about inclusion and community than it is excluding anything or anybody. And cooperation is often slower in the short term, than sometimes just getting the job done for oneself. When I was working in the monastery kitchen, I was the kitchen manager for a while with a crew of maybe nine people. And, and in many ways, I was a better, more skilled, maybe better and more skilled, more competent cook than most of the people who are new to the crew. And so I could do many of the things that needed to be done, I could do, you know, three people's job, you know, I could do it myself as much more efficient for me to do it. And so it was very hard to let you know, assign things to other people, I just wanted to do it, I could do it, you know, a third of the time. And it took me about three months to learn. I'm a slow learner, that the best thing I could do in the kitchen was not do any work myself at all. But just go around and nourish support the firm supply everyone else in their jobs. And then the kitchen works so much better than a sense the doing the particular thing that had to be done in the kitchen that I whatever the item was, happen, maybe slower. But the whole kitchen works so much better, when I kind of enabled the cooperation not cooperating, supporting everyone to do things. So the cooperation and inclusion, the utilitarian mode, focusing on the future, focusing on getting things done focusing on being efficient, and doing just the right thing. It can sometimes make no room for the inner muse, for the inner heart, heart or spiritual or depths of who you are, to listen to them. The music of the heart is how the heart sings, or the deepest kind of wisdom and understanding connectivity that only you can only tune into if we kind of slow down, open up and allow something to deeper to kind of manifest and respond to what's going on. I associate the utilitarian mode very much with being in our thinking mode and fixing mode and planning mode and arranging mode and being efficient mode, which doesn't really connect us with this deeper place of knowing that we can have. So in the appreciative mode, there is slowing down, there is a receptivity and openness. So there's room for the Muse for the heart for the spirit, for our fullness of our being to operate together. And then finally, I think of the utilitarian mode is often being fueled by need. But the appreciated mode also can do things, but it's more maybe inspired by possibility. And so there's less less kind of