Then in terms of challenges, they were significant, because they said, there was like a global pandemic that started, I think I was supposed to start like January 1, and by March, the world was shut down. And we live three hours apart by train, like the Haifa University and where I live. So the, you know, with public transportation shut down during the pandemic, university shut down, no, in person classes, no one person conferences, or even have older children in the house in the house. My partner was in a different country for most of the pandemic, and I was home with four kids. And I, you know, was laid off from my day job, like, it was a whole package of, of stuff. And in Sara's, and she was dealing with her own, you know, workload and personal life, like it became difficult just because of the situation that we found ourselves in, along with the entire world. But also, that was kind of put a spotlight on how important this work is. And even even in a more general way, you know, in the wake of the pandemic, understanding how female academics struggled so much to publish and get their research done, that the publication rate for women decreased dramatically during the pandemic, whereas that event increased dramatically during the pandemic, as they just like, kind of, not to generalize, but that it was like more, I guess, easy to kind of close the door to your office and delve into work. When the the burden of home is not, you know, squarely on your shoulders. Again, I resist kind of making these generalizations, but I think the data backs that up. And so much has been said about it. And there's been so much data to kind of show it not to bash male academics, but to say that the situation's of our lives are so different. And the pandemic really shone a light on that, that where we felt, you know, maybe beforehand that we'd achieved the sort of equity and health and professional equity, and a shifting of, you know, household responsibilities that made it more possible for, you know, women to, to progress in their careers and, and the pandemic kind of said, like, not as much as you think, not as much as you think. So I think the challenges as much as they were, and I can like, really distinctly remember, like, typing away on my computer with like, kids screaming in the background, and like, you know, not being able to, like it was it was for sure, chaotic, but at the same in the same, you know, the other side of the coin is that it was even more important, and even more impactful. And it felt and it resonated even more deeply. So I think the outcome, the final version of the paper, is probably more more fine than it would have been without those challenges. And also, the reviews really helped us right, yeah, or the reviewers were were were exceptional, like, really allowed. I mean, I can't I can't speak for you, Sara. But for me, it allowed me to really, really clean up my understanding of this concept, and approach it from a much more critical place.