Yeah, the as I was mentioning, our work is based on his active listening process. So he just give a little picture of how he did his listening. He as a therapist, he would listen to his clients. The clients would speak about whatever is going on in their lives, and he is a therapist, would reflect back his understanding of what they were saying, and they would either agree with them, I'll say, yeah, you they sort of feel like they were heard or understood, or if they didn't feel heard, you know, accurately, people tend to correct and say how they really were feeling like, Oh, you're feeling angry. They said, No, I'm just upset, for example, you know, to get kind of closer to the actual experience of the speaker. And we've, we've taken that structure and put it into small groups. So we'll have maybe four people in a small group, and we have a topic, and one person is the speaker, and they speak, they select their listener, and that listener does the active listening, reflecting back their understanding of what the speaker is saying. And then we have time limits, maybe, you know, five minute per turn. And then when that time is up, the listener becomes the speaker, and they speak. Select someone in the group to speak to, and that this conversation like this, goes on, you know, for the time allotted. So that's sort of one way of getting to empathic accuracy, is that you the person that you're speaking to, you reflect, reflecting back your understanding of what they're saying, and then they sort of guide you, as you know, if they're heard, if they're understood or not. And yeah, so we've done doing a lot of work with, you know, holding these kind of empathy circles, you know, out in the public, and use it for conflict mediation and other and a lot of other, you know, different ways. And so what you have is another approach to determining empathic accuracy, where you're actually recording those interact, just normal interactions, and then people, after the fact, share what it is that they were feeling, and others are sort of guessing or saying what they feel that the other person is saying or experiencing and then you're sort of matching those together to get a sort of a determination of how accurate they are. Is that sort of,