Welcome back to Think inclusive where every week we bring you conversations about inclusive education, and what inclusion looks like in the real world. This week, we are talking about running and walking. Now what does this have to do with inclusion? Well, our guest Ken Posner, is an experienced runner with 106 marathon and Ultras completed, including record setting runs on the 350 mile long path. And for the 292 mile Badwater double. He lives in New York's Hudson Valley and works in corporate planning for one of the nation's leading mortgage servicers. He is a passionate advocate for the therapeutic benefits of natural stimulation and mindfulness particularly through the practice of going barefoot, as he did with the Barefoot autism challenge. Although he's not a professional runner, Ken's got a fervor for barefoot running, and the energy and the joy that it offers has led him to adopt it as a lifestyle choice. With an awareness of neurodiversity and its intersections with physical activities. He champions the experience of going barefoot for both neurotypical and neuro divergent individuals, emphasizing the grounding and process enhancing aspects it offers. Before we get to the interview, I want to tell you about Bookshare are your students reading below grade level? Do they struggle to read due to a learning difference like dyslexia, visual impairments or physical disabilities. Bookshare is a free ebook library that makes reading and learning easier designed for students with learning differences. Bookshare lets students read in ways that work for them with ebooks in easy to read formats. Students can access millions of titles including textbooks, educational materials, and popular titles like Harry Potter and Percy Jackson. Students read with free reading tools on the devices that they have access to at home or school. They can listen to words read aloud, follow along with highlighted text, read in large font or Braille and customize their reading experience. Bookshare is 100% free for all us students with qualifying disabilities and schools through funding from the US Department of Education Office of Special Education Programs sign up today@bookshare.org That's bookshare.org And now, my interview with Ken Posner, and for free time this week, I'm taking you to the trailer park.