an interesting question, because I will take you back about 12. 12, maybe 15 years, and we were Andrew Crispin, who was the previous MD, I've just been speaking about he and I were interviewing the new sponsored students for the for the next intake at Loughborough. Because we've kept that up. That's a big thing, right? And it's bringing people through, and it actually gives me the most enjoyment from the job is seeing people grow. I really dislike people that take the limelight from other people's work. For me, it's all about watching people grow and giving them the opportunity to spread their wings and become better. But we were interviewing this young chap. He can't have been more than 18, maybe even 70, and he sat there, and at the very end of the interview, and he'd done quite well, very in the interview, we asked him if he had any questions, and he had a couple, and his last question were, do you enjoy what you do? And I looked at Andrew, and Andrew looked back at me, and he said, You go first. And I went, Oh, I love it, you know. And I whacked lyrical for about 10 minutes about Qs. And it's people, it's making money, it's it's on site, it's behind a desk. You'd never do the same day twice. You're on a different construction site every couple of years. You know what's not to like? It's brilliant. And I finished, and I looked at Andrew, and I said, Georgia. And he looked at this young chap, and he went, No, not really. And even this young chap could have walked out, we wouldn't have noticed, because I just turned to Andrew and said, What are you talking about? What do you mean? You don't like it. This is what I want to do. Why don't you like it? What's the problem? And he said, Well, everything you just said, I don't do anymore. And that's the fun part. He said, all I'm doing. Dealing with is trouble. All I'm dealing with is either human beings who are either in house and having problems, or human beings from a consultant side that are having issues or we're struggling to deal with, or human beings on the client side who are unhappy or or whatever disappointed. She said, All he's ever dealing with, all he ever does is fight, fights. And in my in my world, my world is a young, mid 20 year old, maybe, well, I'll do it differently. It'll be different. For me. It's not so different. But I would, what I would say is, I'm, I'm a big fan of psychology. I in my head when I get to a point where I can't do this anymore because just burnt out, or I'm too old and too grumpy, psychology is something that interests me, understanding the mind and getting people, getting people to do things without them realizing you're getting them to do it. It's an artful and that's kind of how I pitch it. So in back in my mid 20s, I was No, I do it differently, because I'm all about people. I'm not necessarily all about the Qs, measurement and making money. I'm about people. The biggest part for me is making sure my staff are happy, because if I have happy staff, they're going to try their best for me. So it's all about the people for me. So I suppose that's my role. My role is people. I have. I have a pre construction team who try and win the work. I have a delivery team that try and deliver the work. I have an SM team that look after the work when it's finished. I probably have, I probably have the relationships in the network. So I probably need to go out and understand what's going on in the world and see what's going on, but the rest of the time it's making sure people are being looked after properly.