An autistic mom of three autistic kids. Jen Malea, is the author of the children's chapter book series, the Infinity rainbow club, and the picture book, two sticky sensory issues with autism. She is professor of English and Creative Writing coordinator at Norfolk State University and currently is pursuing a Master of Fine Arts in writing for children and young adults at the Vermont College of Fine Arts. Originally from Pittsburgh, she currently lives with her husband and three kids in Virginia Beach. Although I hear she doesn't miss a Steelers or penguins game. For this episode, Jen Millia discusses her transition from academic writing to creative writing. She shares how her autism diagnosis influenced her writing and inspired her to create stories about neurodivergent characters. Jen also talks about the inspiration behind her infinity rainbow Club series, and the importance of portraying neurodiverse young kids in everyday situations. She emphasizes the need for acceptance and understanding of neuro divergence and hopes that her books will reach a wide audience including educators and parents. This week, I'd like to highlight one of the sponsors for our narrative podcast series inclusion stories, the Council of parents, attorneys and advocates. COPPA is on a mission to protect and enforce the legal and civil rights of students with disabilities and their families. With over 3100 members across all 50 states and territories, they're making a significant impact their community lead, and much of their work is driven by dedicated member volunteers. Too many students face unnecessary barriers to learning. But COPPA is here to fight for them. They advocate for equitable, inclusive education for students of all abilities. They provide training, mentorship, and expert advice, ensuring that families and advocates have the support they need visit cop a dot o RG to learn more. We've got a great conversation for you today that will help all of us to think inclusive, make sure to stick around for the mystery question. And for free time this week, I respond to a video of an educator that argues that inclusion is setting up kids for failure. Don't miss it. We'll be back after a quick break.