I'm a psychologist by training. I became interested in psychology through music, you can see some instruments behind me here, I'm a musician. And I was in India studying music. Yoga, I had actually gone to India for mental health, I was feeling the need to deepen into a crisis of meaning of sorts that I was facing. And so I was traveling India, studying music, studying yoga, and studying from local practitioners of trance, as a spiritual practice that the bowels of Bengal and I, after that whole experience, I decided to switch careers after being an economist before that, and do my master's, a PhD in Psychology at California Institute of integral studies, which specializes in the study of psychedelics, and among other things. And as I was wrapping up my doctoral work, I met Robin Arnott, who started Andromeda entertainment a publishing company. And as part of Andromeda entertainment, he was incubating an invention of his called Sound self. And I was in Austin, where he lives and we somehow met, I can't remember now went to his house, and I tried it out. And I was blown away, I had never experienced technology like that, that could very rapidly change my state. My, the way I felt in my body, the my expansion of consciousness that happened during and afterwards. So I told him, I want to research this. And so I did a research study using that virtual reality, initial version of it. And we had some really good results in the study. And we got together after that study to launch a new company focusing on digital therapeutics. And for listeners who may not be familiar with the term, digital Therapeutics is a broad term that encompasses technologies and software and medical devices and wellness products that incorporate technology, or use technology to improve people's lives in some way in their, their health, their physical health and mental health. So, and we're taking, and so yeah, that's how we got together and started the company. And here we are today. Wow,