just be like everyone else when we thought that they were our fat friend, you know, and they're not, they're not. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing, uh, specifically with the Rebel Wilson thing, Rebel Wilson, looking at pictures of her as a younger person, she's always been fat. I don't know if you'd say fat fat, but she's always been nothin. She's, I don't think she would ever describe her as a straight sized. So she wasn't a super thin person. And it's not like she was like, thin, you know, straight size person and then was like, Haha, I'm going to do something to win movie roles. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to get fats, like definitely fat. And then I'm going to get all of those comedy roles, and I'm going to really fuck with the fat community and Haha, that will show them. Like, obviously, that's not what people are saying when when we think about what rebel might have done, but it kind of feels like that, right? It kind of feels like, Oh, this is really calculated and a real betrayal. But I think the reality is somewhere in the middle where she was, she was fat and and then she got fatter? Would you still fucked up? I mean, still fucked up to say, Hey, I'm going to use the tropes of who fat people are, to get ahead in my career, that's not okay. Even if she was fat, and then just got fatter. And she said, You know, I, I got the roles then. And, and. And as well, she said, I was in a play with a friend. And when was that? Like? We don't know, was that when she was a teenager? Was she is that when she was 20? Was that when she was 25 when she was 10, you know? And then she started getting roles. When was that? You know? And she said, Oh, it wasn't really a conscious thing. And maybe she's looking back and reflecting upon those things. And those things are deeply inappropriate and fat phobic. She doesn't know though, because she doesn't understand about weight stigma. Right? And so she's not, she's not it doesn't sound she might have been. But it doesn't sound like she was looking back and being like, Oh, shit, you know what I realized? I had this unconscious thought. And I thought that being fatter would be better for my career. And it's really interesting that I thought like that, and I really wanted to unpick that and realize that that was really a lot about my own internalized fat phobia. And, you know, like, it doesn't sound like that's where she's coming from. And that, you know, if that was it, then he'd be like, Oh, that's really interesting. Let's talk about it. But it kind of sounds like she's almost putting on a costume of fatness. But again, I don't think that she was ever straight sized. And I don't think I don't think it was this conscious, calculated thing. And the thing is, we don't know if any fat celeb is, quote, one of us. We don't know, if any fat person, any fat person is a happy fat person. You know? Like I was saying a few weeks ago in talking to a fat person. And I said, Are you fat positive? And he responded, Well, I'm fat. So. And I was like, well, being fat doesn't mean that you're fat positive. And a lot of times, we can put these judgments on Oh, they're fat and in the in the public eye, and maybe they're talking about all my curves and things like that. And it kind of leads us to believe that they are fat, and happy. And maybe they say they're fat and happy. And they're proud to be fat. And maybe they say that. So a lot of times we hoist meaning onto the bodies of fat people and make them the spokesperson of loving your fat body. And yeah, perhaps they've made comments to suggest that, but do we know exactly what they really think and feel? Is it easier as a fat celebrity to be like, yeah, no, I'm celebrating my fat body versus being like, actually, I think that I'm disgusting piece of shit, you know? Would it be easier for them to just say yeah, celebrating the curse? And also, would there be a little bit of calculation around that? have, oh, I'm going to be speaking to a larger part of the audience because most of the audience are going to be fat people because you know, lots of fat people in the world. And so if I say, Oh, I'm embracing my curves, and yay, yay, go curvy people, then people are gonna like me more versus if I say, Oh, I'm really gross.