Guess what you asked in terms of the land taxes, so I would have to get back with you on the land tax.
Okay. Thank you. If you will just please follow up with that. I think it's important because initially I wasn't clear on whether or not the basis was where we are today. And then being owned and operated by a nonprofit entity and therefore being tax exempt because we talked a lot about the properties or these parcels not being on the tax roll, and the implications of that. So thank you for clarifying that. My other question is to the really to Henry Ford Health Systems. So, Mr. Hall talked about the value and importance of expanding the emergency room. And while I understand how a lot of Detroiters use the emergency room, I think it's important to make sure that we're encouraging and supporting residents to seek preventative care. And I really like to get a full understanding of how you all are planning to do that. If this new development project comes online, because I think while I understand you all trying to address a need that we currently have today, the ideal situation would be for folks to have a relationship with a doctor to seek preventative care from their internal physician and make sure that we're utilizing the emergency room when we have emergencies. Right. And that necessarily overcrowding the emergency room so can you talk about how you plan to support residents and encourage them to seek preventative care?
Through the Chair, Councilmember
Johnson, I appreciate your comments and agree with you. So first, I'll talk just a little bit about the expansion of the emergency room. Part of the problem we have today is literally for the demand and will be of course I've looked at the numbers of what we think that demand would be going forward. We're literally undersized so we have Bay's as they would be that identified as walls in the corridor. So part of this is just creating the right privacy and space to treat, not doubling in anticipation of having the volume grow, you know to that amount. We also are taking in the proper accommodations to make sure our behavioral health patient population is treated in an area that is both secure, dignified, and also will be sized to what the demand is for that particular service. We for our health system, taking a lot of people that have mental health instability and do it in that space. And today again, we're undersized so I think you brought out an incredibly important point. We don't speak to growing the footprint of the emergency department because of wanting to expand its use, but more to make sure that as it's being used as appropriate, as it relates to encouraging and supporting residents to have, you know, a relationship with the physician. Part of what we've committed to in the CBA is having a community health worker that community health worker will help us to help people make connections such as that so how can they get continuity of care? We do it currently in our emergency department if someone comes to us and they do not have a primary care provider, we absolutely partner with them to help them with that relationship. Be it with us specifically with our federally qualified health centers that we partner with, or really anywhere that they would like to establish a relationship. We have actually been a pilot in place recently where if someone comes to us during what we would call business hours, so maybe eight to five, and they have a condition that can be treated on a primary care outpatient basis, we will send them our we have an ambulatory building within our hospital footprint and so we will actually send them there and we've actually even done that for specialty care referral. So we are absolutely committed to supporting the community and being able to have established relationships.
Excellent. Thank you. And I'm sorry,
forgive me. I wanted to add that one of the areas of focus for the research that we do is actually intervention research where we work with community organizations. One of our projects we just got funded was called the Miracle project, which looks at how do we take down barriers for women of color to have access to pre and postnatal care. So we're also lining up some of the work we do with how we implement in communities in partnership to improve prevention and access. Okay,
thank you. And I don't have any additional questions, but just wanted to make a statement. I know that the NEC members worked really hard on this agreement that has come before us I personally do think that we need to do more for the community. Mr. Hidalgo talked about bringing on residential units to avoid displacement. I do believe that as these projects come online that rental rates will continue to increase and I think this development project may even encourage rental rates to increase just in the general area. I think it's important for us to do everything that we can to provide support to residents to avoid displacing them. And I always say that the way to do that is to really encourage and support homeownership. I think this particular area has a unique opportunity. And Miss Tompkins brought it up earlier during her comments. There was another community benefits agreement that was put in place I think it was the very first one that still has property that may be available for rehabilitation in this particular neighborhood. And I'd love to see everybody working together to provide support to residents for them to be able to access those properties and rehabilitate those properties and bring them online and provide support for residents to be able to purchase and potentially rent out another unit at an affordable rate. And so that is something that I know you all have seen in a memo that I sent out. And I still stand on that because I think that is extremely important, because this is at least my first that I'm seeing transformation of brownfield in our neighborhoods, albeit very close to downtown and midtown but it is in our neighborhoods, and I think it can it can certainly be a leader in how we do transformational brownfields or just community benefits agreements in our neighborhoods. And so I think we have an opportunity to take the lead and show how we want to move forward in the city of Detroit with all of your support. That is all from me. But I appreciate the presentation. Thank you Madam President.
Thank you member Johnson Member Santiago Romero. Thank you, Madam
President. Good afternoon, everyone. I will be brief a lot of my colleagues asked a lot of the questions that I already have, and I know we've got a lot more things to do. My two questions are the first I believe would be for the pistons. We have vouchers, housing vouchers. These will be coming through Mr. Correct.
Yes, that that is what we are planning to pursue. We've we've had discussions with Mr. And we plan to apply for project based vouchers.
Wonderful. So these vouchers come with a permanent supportive housing partner. Are you then saying you're committing to supporting and the units that you have at the affordable rate I am grateful for but are we sure that we have the right supportive partner to make sure that we are supporting the residents that are going to be tenants in this in this building? Yeah,
those are conversations that we're still having as we explore all of that.
When will those be completed?
Our plan is to file those applications. I believe the deadline is in October.
How confident are you that you will receive the vouchers?
I don't know that I want to weigh in on a level of confidence, but we plan to pursue the vouchers and that's something that's very important to this project.
Okay. My final question is regarding the benefits package. We were able to see a slide metric we can see that again, but based on the information shown, I don't see a lot beyond the project's developments as a part of the benefits. So I've asked in the past for a list and a breakdown to pull apart the benefits that are going to be in addition to the asset that the future of health would bring. I have not seeing those numbers yet. What I have seen are little compared to the tax incentives and advancements that will be given to this project. And that is my main concern. I think this is an asset. It's a very exciting project but when we think about the cost of what it would mean for residents, the feeling that the residents have of always having to pay the cost without getting any benefits from this. The asset is an asset. I agreed. But that wouldn't be the case if it wasn't for this taxes being collected or being frozen. And that is my main concern. So I asked Dan, if you can send over that breakdown of benefits that I have not seen yet for us to be blacked out of even know what to ask for. We're being asked to help advocate for more benefits and more resources that I don't even see where we're starting from. So if we can get down to as please this week, so I can be able to support these negotiations that I'd really appreciate that. Thank you, Madam President.
Thank you so much. I just really quick Mr. Head if you can come up last question just because I did receive a lot of emails kind of comparing this project to district Detroit in the value of this CBA compared to the value of district Detroit CBA. And for my understanding this project, the incentive value for district Detroit was a lot higher at roughly $798 million dollars in incentives compared to future of health only receiving around 296 and incentives. However, the difference in the incentive packages are also different. The future of health is around $604 million in value of the CBA compared to that additional district Detroit at $167 million. So if you could just talk about that. I just want to make sure I'm clear because again, I had received a lot of emails comparing and seeing that it was more given in District Detroit from a CBA value compared to this project and in fact, from my understanding is the opposite. So you can speak to that, please. Thank
you, Madam President. Derek Kidd LPD. Yes, you are correct. When you talk about the numbers for these two projects. The investment for the future health is as you stated $773 million. Mr.
Hagen, you put the microphone very very low voice there we can be
okay. Can you hear me now? Yeah. Thank you. Yes. When you talk about the future of health, you are correct. The investment in this particular project is $773 million. However, when you add up the entire incentive package that comes out to $296 million dollars, which $54 million of that is in tax abatements, and a 241 is in the TIF capture. However, the CBA value is estimated at $604 million. Conversely, district Detroit, which had an investment of $1.532 billion had tax abatements value that $134 million. And when you add up all the other incentives, infrastructure improvements at 25 million deep affordable housing loan of 25 million. And those incentives added up to $182.7 million with a TIF capture of $616 million so the incentives for district Detroit total $798.7 million. But conversely, the CBA value, as you correctly stated, was $167 million. So 167 But district Detroit in CBA value $604 million and future of health CBA bang.
Thank you. I just wanted to make sure that was clear. So way more incentives were in is not to put products against each other but just to compare because there's been a lot of comparison district Detroit received way more incentives for that particular project with a lower value of a CBA compared to what Henry Ford is proposing before us today. That's correct. Okay. And then lastly, just for Denise on the uncompensated care. I received a response from LPD. I think they had a question regarding I think half of the $600 million value of the CBA 300 million of it is going to uncompensated care for Detroiters I think mentioned 70,000 patients came to the main campus in 2023. And so if you do want to speak to the uncompensated care being a big portion of what is being provided for a benefit to Detroiters as well absolutely.
Council president and I apologize, I was looking at you to make sure I knew what what you want me to answer. So yes, kit uncompensated care for us is a part of the work that we do and the benefit that we do bring to the community in terms of citizens that come that are under underinsured and being able to ensure that their care is delivered without interruption or quite honestly without their ability to pay. And part of that is the demographic where the hospital sits, but it is something that we know is a community benefit. We've talked a bit at the table again, we were told that that was our obligation and responsibility and while we don't deny or dispute that we go above and beyond what would be given in the emergency department so the only thing that health system is technically required to provide is emergency stabilized stabilization. So we have to screen and treat when someone presents with the emergency department but our care goes beyond that. It's an every aspect of care that we deliver. It's surgeries, it's it's cancer care. It's any other specialty area that would be there, it's bursts, you know, deliveries of babies, so on and so forth. So our uncompensated cares throughout the whole enterprise.
Thank you, Mister.
Yes, thank you, council president and we did ask a specific question about that, about that $310 million uncompensated care. And the answer that we received was that the emergency room is going to expand more than two times. So based on their estimates, they're estimating an additional $62 million dollars a year for five years, which takes you up to that $310 million figure. Thank you.
Thank you, Madam President. I was going to allow this conversation to move forward. We've had discussion in committee on but when we started talking about and I've raised the issue about the total value of the community benefits agreement. Just kind of going back and we talked about the 310 right $310 million, the hospital the expansion was already anticipated. So if we were for me the CBA when we talked about the benefits of it, it's above and beyond the asset itself. What was anticipated in terms of because this was going to be an expansion anyway, that was the part of the project. What was the anticipated uncompensated care figure? Prior to even having any conversation with the NEC and going through this process? Because if it was already at 310, then I'm not sure how 310 is fits the bill for a CBA.
The 310 is incremental and it is not necessarily associated with what we would have done before that is incremental new uncompensated care, and that is due to the expansion of the emergency department as other poses. If if we weren't going to do Oh, I'm sorry.
No retake because I just want to understand it because I've heard that Yeah, and I still haven't understood it. So I just want to pause. So again, the expansion of the hospital was already intended. There was nothing that was new, that was added in the net conversations from my understanding as it relates to the expansion of the hospital. Is that correct or incorrect? No,
we did not add anything new to the expansion of the hospital based on the neck discussions. And the
ER aspect of it was that new or something that was different as it relates to the neck conversations.
It not not related to the neck conversations that Edie expansion is not the IDI expansion was related to our being able to move the hospital across the street to create a larger footprint and to be able to create that environment if we did not do the development across the street. As I said, if we can't integrate the entire project, it becomes much smaller. It impacts all of those elements and impacts our ability to do all single patient rooms it impacts our ability to expand the emergency room that size it impacts our ability to create 50 New Oh ours in an in a new environment. And so
just a real short question real short answer. I'm just, again, just trying to understand if it was already anticipated. Was there an anticipated uncompensated care cost on the front end prior to walking into any conversation negotiations within that? So what was that number?
So So through the president to Councilmember Tate so to two things, I want to clarify my original answer, which is why I was looking like that trying to make sure I had the right uncompensated care question. So first, we did quantify the incremental to the emergency department, but my answer was also in part correct, that there's a significant amount of untapped uncompensated care associated with the project. What we offered for the community benefit was specifically the portion related to the expansion of the emergency department. And I think what we're seeking to say is we can't say it already exists the uncompensated care because care wouldn't be delivered unless the project went forward. So we are not not trying
to fix it. Though, is what I'm saying the asset has to be built. And once the asset is built, there's going to be some assumption of absolute ground. So we're not saying What was that number? Because the asset itself we can never say the asset itself is the community benefit. That's not how the community benefits or
not. So that so the 310 million is not the asset, but it is the benefit limited to just the incremental growth in the emergency department. So I think what I'm saying is we calculated much larger and uncompensated care because you would have other uncompensated care as I mentioned, outside of the footprint of the emergency department, you would have it on other parts of the campus and other parts of the care being delivered. Once you had the entity that's not making. Yeah,
I go back again, the asset once the asset is built, there's an assumption that there's going to be some additional increase in uncompensated care period. So that comes with it. So I'm not sure how that's an add on how that's above and beyond the asset itself, because that was already anticipated. Prior to having any conversation whatsoever with the NEC because that's what the CBA is really about how do you get above and beyond just the asset itself, and the asset brought up brings about, even if there's no conversation with the NEC, even if there was no conversation about a community benefits agreement, there will still be an assumption of a higher or an increase in uncompensated care. And that's where I'm my personal me personally, I'm drawn to disconnect because with that asset brings this additional uncompensated care take away the asset take away the uncompensated care so they their their tie bar already. So above and beyond to me is outside of that $310 million, or maybe it's you know what, we're going to take the number higher we're going to increase that but if that's what I'm trying to understand, if if I'm not seeing it correctly, if it wasn't anticipated $310 million before you walked into the room with a net then What was that number?
Okay, so I'll try again and I hear voices behind me so if any of my colleagues would like to join me They're welcome to come. But But what what you are accurate that the asset and the uncompensated care are tied together. You're also accurate that the number is larger than $310 million. What we sought to take was the increment, right so the growth that you would have in visits into the emergency department, the uncompensated care associated with those is what would be the 310. So it is a larger number. We didn't use the entire number. We use the increment and we discussed this at the table with the NEC in terms of whether it was considered a community benefit or not. We are choosing to say that it is a community benefit that does the result, as the asset has been, you know, able to be scaled and changed. I mean, we will have the reality is we would have an emergency department if we didn't have the project, I would say right. So if you didn't have it, that's a baseline. So we're saying by having the new site you are going to have some growth in that footprint. So that's the quantification of the 310 million. The other piece I wanted to answer I think when you asked us previously did anything change at the table, the urgent care, so there's a 24/7 Urgent Care component to the emergency department that did come as a result of the dialogue with the NEC. And so the request was to have it in the community we chose to place it inside the footprint of the hospital
was Was there any adjustment at all of the increase or potential increase of the uncompensated care as a result of that conversation? Is that being quantified
urgent care specifically it would be in the quantification of the 310 because of the volume that would be associated with it, but I don't know the exact number marked worked on some of the numbers do you okay.
Yeah, I'll maybe say this. There are a couple of ways that you can look at this and I have I will take credit for how it was and I spent a lot of time in finance and I don't want to get into the weeds to the extent of not having a meeting of the minds. And my good friend Barry Blackwell and I just recently had a conversation. So as you start to break out what uncompensated care is. There are four buckets that go into that as a as a hospital system, as opposed to what community benefit which is a whole nother a bucket of resources that our system provides to the community, as someone said, to justify our nonprofit status, so when we were based on previous experience having built the cancer center and some other developments in the city, I thought we were rightfully questioned and pressed that we did not engage the community enough in helping to develop what it is that this project or a project would provide. So coming to them with something fully baked, which pushed on pretty hard. So the commitment to have these conversations early, which we did or not when it was in February, but the communication with the community went went for at least a year in advance of that. So as we took lessons on green space, what it meant to come to our ER room and how that affected people's lives and what we could do differently as we move forward. You know, I'll let jury speak to what the side would have been or not been, but as we were defining what we felt this project would bring, and the impacts that the people would be felt by the residents, especially our neighbors, is how do we ensure that the impact is as least as possible? And then what other benefits do they deserve based on the fact that that disruption and the things that their lives will have to kind of endure during this process to make this and then feel good about this? We went through a voluntary community benefits process for the Cancer Center. Not up on the slide, but we also did one for the garage. So in terms of trying to match and fulfill what the community wanted from us as a result of these types of disruptions. That's where my learnings were from. So as we came into this project, and then we volunteered to bring our project into the CBA. Some of the benefits that we were tracking and knew that the community would hopefully see as valuable was the uncompensated care. But if you look at the list and to Councilwoman Romero, there was one that I produced that was more of a summary. And if you look strictly at the numbers that we put in there, you could look at the uncompensated care or something that was going to resolve post an announcement or post the CBA and I would understand but I would also say back so many of the other things that are in the agreement. We didn't put a value to one because we didn't know what the value would be one because it was uncertain. So if it was just about what was talked about from the day that the CBA moved, or began to today, we could recalculate that list and it would look different than the number we gave but we tried to be as fair as possible in weighing the benefits that the community would be getting from the asset itself, which may be different than the past on some other developments, but also the true benefits that we didn't attach dollars to because the true uncompensated care number as we calculate would be five times that number but I can explain that and show in detail how it is determined that but it is real based on the expansion
that will be helpful as we approach next week. The other thing is the $90 million dollars in terms of benefit for the research center. I think part of the reason why we had the CBA is because it was a collection or the CBA is because we had a collection of development projects which included the research center. How did you come up with the $90 million dollars above and beyond the asset itself? Because I'm sure it wasn't just going to be a building. You know, it's research and you had already planned it for it. So I don't think $90 million tag get assigned there in terms of the benefit above and beyond the asset itself and the services that we're going to take place I'll like anyway, yeah, sure.
Sorry, compliment. I'll let Jerry or norm talk to this, but it was done under the same spirit that the building of the research center that isn't there today, and will be completed will say in 2030. In addition to the expense that's a project which was not included in any of these totals to continue to operate that at the level that we believe will achieve the scientific results. We have committed to to fund that and we figured out the number on a yearly basis that the two organizations will be putting into the community benefit of running those running that research center so that those scientific results which also will be a benefit which will never quantify. We're coming out of that. So it is at times in healthcare difficult to quantify what the value and the benefit is. Sometimes it's the actual dollars that you're spending. Sometimes it's the outcome and it's very, very difficult to talk about outcomes of an investment on a future state. So when that was calculated that was just purely done on the investment that we will be giving, connecting that to the benefit of the community in dollars but you know, in a perfect world, that would be the research and the value that came out of that and potentially even the NIH grant, which we believe will be significantly increased by this investment. So I can't disagree with you that that based on how you described how you described it that yes, you could we could make the argument on the day that the CBA started, that there were decisions made and outcomes that this project would give that work community benefits, but if we didn't want to count them, we may have looked at some of the other community benefits that we didn't put dollar time to make sure that we were living up to the expectation, and that's how that happened. It was it was done with the right intent. Yeah,
I would love to see more that quantification, if you will, because again, it's picking and choosing the items. I mean, I saw one where there was support that was provided to community organizations. It was quantified. It made sense, right? There plain English, but then we're saying well, but there's some other things we didn't talk about because we can't necessarily bottle quantifying. So we're just going to add it all into this amount here. Makes it a little difficult for me to go out and talk to my constituents, my residents about why I believe that those numbers are legitimate if I can't explain them. And I'll I'll just say this as well because again, we disagree on how we get there we get disagree because I don't want it we still have a long agenda left. And we still have a seven o'clock meeting tonight. The other thing that I was going to bring up is it was raised that and I let me just say this, I support wholeheartedly, I think it's smart. It makes sense. And I'm glad it was negotiated the rental assistance as well as the home repaired makes a whole lot of sense. But when the statement is made that because of those two elements, rents won't raise in the area I think, once again, it's misleading. Rents are going to go up. If I'm a landlord, and I know that there's a pot of money. I'm going to raise the rent because I know that it's going to be covered. And those rents are never going to go down they're only going to go up. So what I'm just saying is let's be completely transparent folks and tell folks the reality of what we're dealing with. The rents are going to go up it's just a matter of it's the nature of things. So we've got to be very careful about telling folks that because we have these two elements, the rents aren't gonna you definitely may be able to assist folks for five years because that's how long the assistance is on these particular programs. You may assist them for five years but what happens in year six 710 The rents go up let's be honest about it. You're doing what you can and I don't believe that one project should should try to solve all the issues for the entire city of Detroit. But if you go in and you're saying that the rents won't raise because of these two elements in that area. To me, I think that's a bit misleading, similar to again and until I get a more broken down understanding of benefits. I will
say the same thing about that 600 And plus number as it relates to the benefits. I don't see it. I'm not saying I don't see benefits there. But the number is just not jiving and I'll go even further when we talked about the infrastructural improvements, same thing 55 million. If it benefits you and I needed to have not had an opportunity because I've had a feeling this was gonna get postponed today. I had a pretty busy day yesterday, so didn't get a chance to look through the documents that were provided. So prayerfully it is the information that I requested. But you know, I would like to see how we in the past have shouldered the costs of the $55 million, either the state or the city for the pre development as it has been indicated. The 55 million is a lot of money and I don't doubt some of those things for certain but those are those are I like to be honest with folks and hit things head on. Whether it's ugly or not. We express the truth and be transparent. Not saying anyone is not being truthful. What I'm saying is I don't see those numbers here in front of me and the way it's being described on a piece of paper. Thank you. Thank you. If I just do the president to Councilmember Tate, if I can just make sure we know what we need to provide to you and we can provide it to all of the council members you want the quantification of the 310 million that we have in the community benefits related to the incremental emergency room visits, right. So we'll do that. And then the 90 million for research as well. So you just want to get the detail behind how those numbers were arrived at. Yes, that would be acceptable. And we're going to have more conversations. Of course I'm getting my phone calls all the time. So we will have additional calls for additional clarity if needed. Okay. Lisa will be helpful because I struggled with the same thing with the overall benefits package as well. And based on just my looking at it now I think it's like six parts where there's actually a cash donation per se that actually values roughly $4 million. And so breaking that down to get a better understanding of what is the actual donation or hash value outside of as was mentioned, the asset itself will be helpful because we're looking at now 1.5 possibly for the Housing Trust Fund. There was 2 million for the whole repair $500,000 for rental assistance, what is the total value of what Henry Ford and the pistons from a cash value giving donation perspective not the asset itself? What is that value? And how does that compare to distribute your rate and their cash value or other projects that we've seen thus far not the asset itself that was mentioned earlier? Okay. We will we will, we will explain it and then hopefully have some discussion. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. We will continue with our agenda. And is there a motion to bring these items back next week? Postpone. The President moved to postpone for a week mine I'm 17.1 17.9 17 point 13 From 17 point 19. Please carry no objections, we will postpone those line items. Understanding committee reports for the internal operations standing committee from the law department and before we move forward, colleagues, Is everyone comfortable with moving forward or does anyone want to break? Kind of get through it? Okay, we're going to try to get through it from the law department. Councilmember Johnson for resolution nine out of 16.1 to 16.4. Councilmember Johnson Thank you, Madam President Move for approval on line item 16.1 to 16.4. These are requests for settlement or legal representation and indemnification. Right. Hearing no objection, Objection, Objection, counsel. Santiago Merrill objection 16.2 and 16.4. So no, hearing no other objections before resolution before resolutions will be approved. From the Human Resources Department classification and compensation division, Councilmember Johnson and resolution line item 16.5. Councilmember Johnson Thank you, Madam President. Move for approval. This is for the 2023 2020 Ford official compensate compensation scheduled for traffic control officers or the police department. Any objections? Hearing none, the one resolution will be approved Madam President. Yes, I'd like to request a waiver on line item 16.5. Okay, a waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken from the legislative policy division. Councilmember Whitfield Callaway resolution Lanham 16.6 member Callaway Yep, thank you Madam Chair motion to approve. All right. Hearing no objections, the resolution for the reestablishment of the city council human sex trafficking task force will be approved for the Planning and Economic Development Standing Committee under unfinished business. Madam President, this line item was moved to next week. Okay. Yes, you're correct. Thank you. From the office of contracting and procurement,
Madam President, there are seven contracts up for vote today from the Planning and Economic Development standing committee. First up we have contract number 60059531 2% are pretending to ride the Renew Detroit home repair program for roof replacement and related construction services for up to 25 PARTICIPANT households per contract. Contract is Fortune Builders total contract amount $500,000. And this contracts for housing and revitalization. And this contract is cash remember 60059591 2% arpa funding to provide the Renew Detroit home repair program for roof replacement and related construction services. For up to 25 PARTICIPANT households per contract. Contract is custom built construction, LLC, total contract amount $500,000. And this contract is for housing and revitalization. The next contract was contract number 600-368-6821 To present city funding amendment number two, writing an extension of time for hazardous materials testing slash surveying for houses being renovated by bridging neighborhoods for the Gordie Howe International Bridge Project Council just testing engineers and consultants Inc. original contract amount $100,000. And this contract is for housing and revitalization. The next contract was contract number 60059641 2% Arper funding to provide the renewed Detroit home repair program for roof replacement and related construction services for up to 25 participants households per contract contracts presidential construction, Inc total contract amount $500,000. This contract is for housing and revitalization. The next contract is contract number 60059931 2% revenue to provide lease of City of Detroit own land for vehicle parking, canceled is invest Detroit Foundation, total contract amount $12,000. And this contract is for planning and development. The next contract is contract number 60059901 2% are pre funding to provide the renewed Detroit home repair program for roof replacement and related construction services for up to 25 PARTICIPANT households per contract contracts professional contracting and consulting EAC. total contract amount $500,000. And this is for housing and revitalization. The last contract is contract number 60059941 2%. ARPA funding to provide the renewed Detroit home repair program for roof replacement and related construction services for up to 25 PARTICIPANT households per contract. Contractor is one 800 Hansen total contract amount $500,000. This contract is warehousing and revitalization council president pro tem Tate seven resolutions nine 17.2 to 17.8.
Thank you council president pro tem tape
President move approval of mine items 17.2 through 17.8. Please,
are there any objections to the resolutions? Hearing no objections. The seven resolutions will be approved. Yes,
first for a waiver of line items 17.2 to 17.5 as well as 17.7 and 17. Point A any
objections to a waiver? Hearing none that action will be taken from the Detroit Brownfield Redevelopment Authority we postpone this one okay. And the second one as well from the City Planning Commission.
No we didn't.
We did not postpone that. Okay.
Council President potentate and introduction of an ordinance 17 point 10
Can we forward? Yeah,
I thought we postpone that. Yep, that's on my list. 17 point, sir. Yeah, move to postpone line item 17.2. And Madam President, my apologies. Okay, Hearing no objections we will postpone 17 point 10 and 11 and line item 17 from 11 is that's the scheduling of the public hearing.
No, so my 17 point 10 actually has it is regarding property project on Connor Street is
different. Nice is Henry Ford Hospital. Well, let me
see 17.2 Yeah. 17 points. 10 is the proposed ordinance to amend this is a district map or project on Connor street between Flanders and St. Patrick Adams. What is
that? Okay, that is? No, you're correct. You're correct. So we can move forward with that particular line item MIT annotated. So he needs to reconsider. Okay. You have to reconsider. This, you can call it
a college if you want. Okay. So we are going to move forward with pro tem. Council
President Pro Tem tape and introduction of an ordinance nine 17.2. You
know, the president moved that the ordinance be read by title, read twice by title order printed and laid on the table. All right,
Hearing no objections. That action will be taken. From the City Planning Commission. Council
President potentate a resolution setting a public hearing, not 17 point 11
Oh, Tim Tate a president move approval of line out of 17 point 11 for date to be determined.
Right Hearing no objections that action will be taken from the City Planning Commission. Council
President Pro Tem Tate a resolution line item 17 point 12.
Oh Tim Tate President Move approval line item 17 point 12. Please write
and this is adopting our 2024 2025 CDBG meeting scheduled for the Planning and Economic Development standing committee starting on Monday, February the 26th. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections the one resolution will be approved from the housing and revitalization department.
Madam President, all of these items were moved. Next week postponed for next week. line item 17 point 13 and 17 point 18. Nine
in 19 as well,
well that's a good thing.
Okay, so I'll keep going alright. So from the City Planning Commission, planning in the planning and development department, Madam
President, there are three resolutions noting that line item 17 point 19 was postponed for less till next week, which leaves us with line item 17 point 2217 point 22 No near that line item 17 point 22 was postponed from last week's formal session.
All right, perfect. Pro Tim Tate.
No president who will prove a line item 17 point 2217 point 22.
All right. These are just various property sales. Hearing no objections. The three resolutions will be approved.
Yes, member cowboy quest to waiver on line item 17 point 20.
All right, a waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken. Or the public health and safety standing committee from the office. of contracting and procurement. Madam
President, there are eight contracts up for vote today from the Public Health and Safety Safety Committee. lineups 18.1 to 18.6 all emergency ambulance coverage emergency demolition and abatement and alteration contracts which takes us to line item 18.7 which is contract number 30716521 2%. City funding to provide management of secondary employment for police officers including scheduling and related activities after his off duty management Inc, total contract amount is zero. And this contract is for the police department. The last contract was contract number 6004543 A one one 2%. City funding amendment number one to provide an increase of funds and an extension of time for design build contract for new animal care and control facility at 5700. Russell Street after the scandal Inc. total contract amount $9,600,000 And this contract is for construction and demolition. Councilmember Santiago Romero eight resolutions nine times 18.1 to 18.8 Noting that lineups 18.1 to 18.5 are postponed from last week's formal session. All
right, Councilmember Santiago Romero.
Thank you, Madam President. I will be breaking up these contracts or discussion. Move to discuss Landon's 18 points one 18.3 and 18.4. These are all the ambulance coverage contracts. Okay. Thank you Madam President. I do believe DC Hillman has been here patiently with us waiting to give us some more insight regarding the ambulance contracts. I know last week there was some concerns from my my colleague regarding why it is that we are paying for a contract and then charging residents to utilize the ambulances from what I understand. And DC please help inform anything that might be missing. But it is incredibly expensive to do this kind of work. What we are doing is we are essentially paying a flat rate that is for the service itself. The hospitals will then Bill our insurance companies to be able to pay for the rest of the amounts. This is best practice across the country. We did ask for some numbers to see what it would cost to bring this in house. It would cost us approximately $10 million to be able to fully staff a program like this without EDA its personnel at around $100,000 A person and ultimately pain purchasing ambulances at around 250,000. Each row cost about 4.5 with maintenance and fuel. The city would be looking at about $15 million in costs to bring an ambulance service in house. And again, the way that we are contracting out is the way that many other cities do to able to support our budgets. But BT DC home and please if there's anything else that you want to include regarding these contracts, I welcome it.
Thank you, Councilmember, thank you through the chair. This is an important contract for the department. This these ambulances are first responding. ambulances. So what councilmember Santiago Merrill said is exactly why we need them. And they help to prevent lack of service for our citizens and our visitors. So we want to make sure that we provide the ultimate service for them.
And Madam President, I do want to add that we are looking to remember calories points. And just in general, if you don't have insurance, if you are low income. Our office is looking at a potential policies or resources to be able to provide funding for folks that may not be able to pay the costs of an ambulance ride which is incredibly expensive. So we hear the concerns of the cost. This is currently what needs to happen based to the cost to make it accessible for the city really to be able to get the services. But our office will be working with you to see what we can do to make sure that we have resources set aside for residents that may not be able to pay the cost of ambulance rides. Those are my Quick Insights Hunter, if anybody else has any questions regarding these contracts.
Thank you remember Callaway?
Yes, I post similar questions last week and I didn't get your name.
Sorry. I apologize that Councilmember Derrick Helen second deputy commissioner. Okay.
Thank you. Um, so I did ask him to draw through the chair last week to Mr. Corley, the possibility of using Arper dollars to address some of the outstanding debt that some of our senior citizens are incurring as a result of being charged for ambulance services outside of their insurance. And I don't know if you had gotten that request or not from my office, but I certainly asked through the chair last week. And the reason why I ask these questions because I've been having senior citizens call in a panic because now they're the bills from superior in particular are being sent over to a third party debt collector in Columbus, Ohio. We're talking about an 81 year old resident who is on a fixed income and cannot afford to pay for ambulance services and that's why I asked these contracts be brought back this week, because I had some questions. If we're paying over half million dollar to three companies to provide these EMF services. Then why are we also charging our elderly residents a fee to use the services that we're paying for and then also through the chair. I have a report from Charles Sims, the executive Fire Commissioner regarding a fee schedule that looks pretty complicated and it doesn't like there's been a resolution to it. And it's been going on since 2018. So I don't know if that's a whole nother different conversation outside of the ambulance services and the fees that they're charging to residents. But I got this on February 90. And this is kind of complicated for me to even understand. So I think that's separate from the question to you, Mr. Corley, whether or not Arper dollars can be used. I know they reduced in Oakland County to address some of their residents debt because of COVID. But whether or not copom Arper dollars can be used to address the debt that citizens seatsing senior citizens are incurring by using EMS services.
President equality truly apologize our customer Callaway. I have not reached out to the regulators that are hired by the city. I think it's a calm, they help the city regulate the Smith expenditures that are made you know against offer dollars and I had a chance to do that. So I do that pulsates. That's really important for you to get before your decision. I get it. I'll get right on it. I apologize.
Yeah, that's okay. I do want to answer to that question where the opera dollars can be used because of our senior citizens. And, again, we all know there are a lot of them. Not Most of them are on a fixed income. And I guess we can talk about this at another time because I don't know if it's relevant to the discussion in terms of these three contracts that fee schedule or not through the chair to you, sir.
Through the Chair, Councilmember Callaway, I would love to sit down with you go through our fee structure and how things are done and through Member Santiago Romero. We want to set up a hardship policy for our residents so that way we can address your concerns.
To the chair I don't know if you if my colleagues have received this report from Charles Sims executive fire commission regarding ambulance services are not as dated February 19. It just says to me, but I don't know if my colleagues received it as well. Oh, no, they get to I'll send it to
everybody. Okay, we see because I did request the fee schedule from our last meeting as well. Okay, thank you. All right, and I'm looking forward to the program. That you guys are going to be implemented if you can loop all of us in because I think that is extremely important to provide some type of relief for indigent families or residents or those who don't have health care or insurance to be able to access ambulatory services. So yes, thank you for that. Thank you.
Thank you. All right. There's
no additional questions when this particular or on these three contracts, a motion motion to approve. Okay, there's a motion to approve any objections? Hearing no objections,
those resolutions will be approved request a waiver, Mr. President.
All right. A waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections, that action will be taken, Madam Chair. Yes.
Just making sure. Thank you, just to Mr. Coralie. So Mr. Corley, I think we put that in writing, because that was a week ago. So when can I expect that answer from you regarding whether or not ARPA dollars can be used to address this specific issue? Thank you, ma'am, to your thinking.
Alright, great. Thank you, Mr. Corley. Remember Santiago Romero.
Thank you Madam President. motion to postpone when it comes 18 points. 12 and 18.5. colleagues do have some concerns regarding these. ARPA funded 18.2 Excuse me? Yes, thank you, 18.2 and 18.5. There are still some outstanding questions regarding the ARPA funded abatement and alteration contracts. Right. Is
there any objection to postponing for one week? All right, hearing none, that action will be taken. Councilmember Santiago Romero. Thank you, Madam President.
Motion to approve 18.6 or 18.8?
All right, any objections to 18.6 to 18.8? Hearing no objections, the three resolutions will be approved. request a waiver for 18.8. Madam president any objections to a waiver for 18.8? All right, hearing none that action will be taken from the Office of the Chief Financial Officer Office of Development and grants. Councilmember
Santiago Romero three resolutions lanolips 18.9 To 18 point 11
Councilmember Santiago Romero. Motion to approve. Right. Hearing no objections. This is for the safe streets for all grant. Hearing no objection that resolution will be approved.
request a waiver
Hearing no objections are what do we move all three of these I'm sorry about that. Okay, so all three of these items were moved together. Oh,
madam president. We only moved one and I only moved to 18.9
Can you move on? Oh,
did did our clerk read through 18 point 11
Yeah,
excuse me requests. Motion to approve all three and request a waiver for all three Madam President.
All right motion has been made. Hearing no objections, the three resolutions will be approved. A waiver has been requested as well. Hearing no objections that action will be taken. From the Department of Public Works city engineering division. Councilmember
Santiago mural seven resolutions? Nine times 18 point 12 To 18 point 18.
Right, Councilmember Santiago Ramiro.
Thank you, Madam President. Motion to approve 18 points 12 through 18 point 18.
All right, any objections? Hearing none, the seven resolutions will be approved. Madam President. Yes,
one final waiver requests for 18 points.
1218 point 12 Any objections to a waiver for 18 point 12. Right Hearing none, that action will be taken. Thank you, Madam President. Thank you. From the mayor's office under New Business Council
Member Whitfield Callaway for resolutions, line items 19.1 through 19.4. Member Callaway,
Yes, madam chair motion to move on to approve their various parades and gatherings and festivals. 19.1 through 19.44
All right. Hearing no objections before resolutions will be approved. From the office of the from the Office of contracting and procurement. Madam
President, there are five contracts that were built today from the neighborhood and community services and committee. All Contracts if a General Services Department First up we have contract number 2875368 a 312 percent revenue amendment number three to provide an extension of time for management of Riverside Marina cartridges ABC professional enterprise total revenue amount $837,000. The next contract is contract number 600390881 65% Solid Waste and 35% major street funding amendment number one to provide an increase of funds to repair Elgin sweepers, contractors and McQueen equipment LLC DBA bale Equipment Company total contract amount $350,000. The next contract is contract number 6005010. A one one 2%. ARPA funding amendment number one to provide an extension of time for parking lot and site design service for the design engineering and construction administration services for the DPD Training Center. Contract is DLC total contract amount $102,400. The next contract is contract number 60060321 2%. ARPA funding to right landscaping clearing grubbing asphalt pathway construction and tree removal for all Retford, la Lassen and Clarita catches WCI contractors Inc, total contract amount $190,000. But as contractors contract number is 60056661 2% capital funding to buy design view of the Oakland Park seawall controversy EC corn for nympho company total contract amount $1,599,825 How's the member Whitfield Callaway five resolutions lanolips 19.5 to 19.9.
Madam Chair motion to approve line items 19.5 through line items 19.9
All right Hearing no objections Madam President. Yes,
objection says 19.7. Kirkwood
please no Burke was so no. Hearing no further objections the five resolutions will be approved on the Office of the Chief Financial Officer. Yes, I'm
gonna see if we can add waivers to line item 19.1 through 19.9.
waiver has been requested. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections. A waiver will be attached to the
President for clarity that was 19.1 through 19.9. Yes, thank you.
From the Office of Development and grants
councilmember Whitfield Callaway. A resolution line item 19 point 10.
Councilmember Callaway
All right. Hearing no objections the resolution will be approved.
Madam President.
Yes,
I'd like to request a waiver for line item 19 point 10
And the waiver has been requested for 19 point 10 Hearing no objections. That action will be taken from the Department of Public Works city engineering division.
Councilmember Santiago Mayor resolution number 19 point 11
Councilmember Santiago Ramiro, motion to approve. motion has been made for approval approval. Are there any objections? Hearing none, the one resolution will be approved for the president's report on standing committee referrals and other matters for the budget Finance and Audit standing
committee for reports from various city departments before
reports will be referred to the budget Finance and Audit standing committee for the internal operations standing committee
six reports from various city departments.
The six reports will be referred to the internal operations committee for the Neighborhood and Community Services standing committee one report from the mayor's office. One report will be referred to Neighborhood and Community Services standing committee for the Planning and Economic Development standing committee five reports from various city departments. The fire reports will be referred to the Planning and Economic Development standing committee for the public health and safety standing committee 14 reports from various city departments. The 14 reports will be referred to the public health and safety Standing Committee under the consent agenda.
There are no items Madam President,
we will now call for this suspension of member Ford's All right Hearing no objections we will suspend member reports under adoption without committee reference. Yeah, no,
I just madam president under communications from the clerk a report on approval proceedings by the mayor.
That report will be received and placed on file under testimonial resolutions and special privilege.
Council member Johnson two resolutions noting that line line items 30.1 and 30.2 Donate that line 30.1 is on behalf of council member Benson
council member Johnson Move for approval. Hearing no objections the two resolutions will be approved. And if there is nothing else to come before us. I will see everyone this evening over in member Callaway is district in district two at 7pm for our first evening council meeting of the year. Thank you for everyone's patience and this meeting will now stand adjourned.
