Board of Police Commissioners — Evening Community Meeting, 2/13/2024

11:30PM Feb 13, 2025

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Can you hear me? Yes, You may be heard.

I didn't know public comment started, but this monkey wrench rule appearing on behalf of Nene, dear woods. I don't see Tamara Liberty Smith in there, but I'm gonna tell you, I don't know what that little white man and done it, y'all, but the cover up, or the cover up, or the cover up, is going to be uncovered and exposed. Now, I don't know why y'all ain't took that tag off Mimi's mama yet, but Marco prestage investigator, homicide investigator, Marco passage and homicide captain, former homicide captain, now second precinct commander, Derek May has to the plot to cover up the murder of Kenisha Coleman. Now I didn't reach out to homicide and try to give him the information. Ain't nobody called me, recording in progress. So now I'm taking it to the streets see if y'all want to play games and this little political stuff. That's the city council, board of police commissioners and the mayor. I'm with it. That's why they call me monkey rich rue. I got that name in 1991 for a specific reason and purpose. Now I'm getting ready use it and demonstrated on you. Darrell woods and termite Tamara Liberty Smith, the Detroit Police Department, Marcos prest, Derek May and whoever else is standing in the knees way, that's my word. Now I told you to ask Mark McLeod about me. You said you talked to him on the phone. You don't gotta ask him about me. I'm getting ready to show you and demonstrate to you Darryl woods, exactly how I'm cut, how I'm built and made. I hope that it's not a threat. It ain't no damn threat. It's the truth.

Okay, alright. You teethering.

Next caller, next speaker,

Miss Sheila gun,

Yes, Ma'am, I'm here representing Can

you put a mic close, please? Thank you.

I'm here representing the fenlon County Keystone block club on outer drive in Finland. We it's a school that's not active. Van Zyl Elementary School has been empty for about 20 years, we've been having a problem with squatters, rave parties, drug activity, sex parties, and we reach out to our neighborhood police. They come sometime the school was boarded up with the Plexiglas, they break it and go in there. Back in November, someone set it on fire, and they're trying to warm yourself up. And we had about eight fire trucks out there, gun these lined up because they thought it was going to be dead people. We've been trying to get the city, the police department, to come, because now it's open for real, because they had to break the glass. The front door is open. It's right next door to Mason school, which the kids walk to school. Our block club in our neighborhood are concerned about somebody still being in there, and we trying to see if the police or someone can expedite it getting secured again, and we've been to the school board means we know it's not the city, per se, but we need some help getting that built in secure, and getting some kind of police activity, because they come from cross eight mile Brits High School, and it's a party place. You know, the teenagers hang out there, and it's concerning, because we see them going in and out. But I just want to put that on the record that we need some kind of police activity over there.

Yes, yes. So the commander chambers is going to talk with you, but the chief has a great relationship with the school superintendent, and he's going to, I'm sure, follow up to make sure if it's a city issue or if it's a dpscd issue that they issue would get addressed next caller,

our next speaker is former Commissioner William Davis.

You may be heard. Commissioner,

good evening. Can I be heard? Yes, sir. Okay, I'd like to. I don't really have much to say today, other than the fact that I agree that certain staff members need to be paid more. I also think that they actually should be more investigators. I also think that for people to actually come, the commissioners to actually come, they should actually get more of a stipend than what they do. But I think it should be consequences for this commissioners that don't show up or don't notify they're not coming and don't show up at all. You know, I work for the city of Detroit for 34 years, and from 2000 I mean, from

1978 to 2012

the last time I called in sick was October 8, 1992 during the time that I was on the board, I didn't miss a single meeting. In fact, I haven't missed a meeting since I was on the board, since before I was on the board. And I think if you're going to be a police commissioner, you need to show some determination and commitment. Thank you. Thank

you very kindly.

That was your last speaker. Mr. Chair, okay, all right,

let's get to the secretary report.

This evening. We have a number of correspondent communications under tab five in your binders tonight. They are listed on the agenda, notably from the budget committee memo and the announcements of meetings coming up. Next board meeting is next, Thursday, February 20, at 3pm at public safety headquarters. The next community meeting is Thursday, March 13. It will be held in the 10th present at Union carpenters and mill right skill training center. That meeting also is at 6:30pm

and it is located at 11687,

American street in Detroit. Our next committee meetings of the board are as follows, Budget Committee meeting next Tuesday, February 18 at 4:30pm at public safety headquarters, and the policy committee will meet on that same day, Tuesday, February 18 at 5pm at Public Safety headquarters. That ends the reports today, sir,

okay, Mr. Attorney, thank you very much, Madam Secretary, can we can have the chief of police givers report? We're not voting on it. It's nothing. It's not an actionable item.

Where does it says that you can

be able to get the report from the chief. But no,

no, yeah, there's no votes. Yeah, it's a presentation. Okay, absolutely. Let's go to the chief of police, the Honorable Todd a better son.

Thank you, sir, through the chair Commissioner woods and to this honorable body. And always thank you for your service as well. I'll start out, I don't know if we did introductions of my folks here yet. Say that one more time. Yeah, we did introductions of my staff and the deputy chiefs and the folks in the audience yet. Or you just want me?

No, we haven't. When our quorum get here, we do that, and it should be here very momentarily. But you can introduce your crew all you want.

Okay, well, I'll have them stand up and introduce themselves. So of course, we got Deputy Chief Arnold Williams here, yes. And then we'll just start from their chief of staff, Shonda Starks, and we'll just go around and have them introduce themselves.

You I guess that's it, right, okay?

Neighborhood police officers.

Those those great MPOs back there. I do a lot of work with that one right right there. MPO Williams, absolutely.

So I'll start my report right now. Crime is continuing to trend down, and so our homicide numbers this year, year to date, is 33% reduction, non fatal shootings. It's a small uptick where it's a 4% increase. Robberies down 1% total part one crime at this particular point in time is down 11% and carjackings continue to trend down at 21% significant events, the thing that troubles our heart definitely the most has been what we've seen on television with the tragic case where we lost two of our youngest people, which occurred at the Hollywood casino, the parking lot on the ninth floor. You know, it's been very frigid when we look in terms of the weather. And so with the with the mother and the grandmother who were living in their van, along with five children. And so we know that we lost a two year old and a nine year old had a press conference. And like I said in the press conference, it's not a whole lot that I can say, but when it comes to cause of death, we leave that up to the medical examiner. And so you know on the face, it appears to be hypothermia. And if anybody wants to know, like the science of hypothermia, you can Google it. I just had a first aid class, and when you go through and you kind of look at it, I see a refresher. When you look at it, it, it doesn't take a whole lot. But with that being said, we're going to wait to what the medical examiner has to say in regards to the actual cause of death, just a real tragic because we saw the mother on television.

You know, anytime a mother,

anytime anyone loses their kid and that they're unsheltered in a position like that, we have to look at the system and say, You know what could and it's on all of us. What could we have done better? You know, when it goes to family, it goes to friends, and the mayor at his press conference, and I think Daryl woods, I think Commissioner Linda Bernard for standing with us, and I know all the board members there in spirit. But you know, what can we do? And one of the things looking at what we can do as a police department, we've opened up our precincts as warming centers, and then also anyone can come there put out an administrative message, and not just putting it out, but my command officers have been there instructing the police officers on the doors so if any citizen comes in and needs shelter, our officers know what to do. They'll contact our unsheltered response team. Our unsheltered response team will work to ensure that outreach gets to the precinct to offer services and make sure that individuals get into a drop in center. And what I will say to the community is this, when you see something, we have to act and and it's not just the city of Detroit problem. This is a this is a nationwide problem, but it's more deadly in these frigid temperatures. How many times have you been at Walmart and you got out your car and you looked at the Car Next Door, or, you know, like, right next to your vehicle, it ain't got a whole lot of stuff in it, sometimes you don't think, but that's somebody living in that car. So we typically think of an unsheltered person is on the streets, but we do have a lot of unsheltered individuals that are in their vehicles. But as we know, a vehicle is not the safest place, because in this particular incident, the mother did, in my opinion, what she thought was the best, but with a car and it's running, it can't run out of gas, or can have a mechanical failure at this particular point, I still don't know, because the investigation is ongoing, but I know that the city of Detroit has stepped up. We're wrapping our arms around her, we're doing the best that we can, and y'all definitely keep the board updated. And that's really the most significant event that I have, you know, and I will tell you this, I've seen a lot of stuff, but the children still get to me. Anytime we lose somebody, like a kid, and I know it gets to you all as well. That's the most significant thing. Everything else is really minor when it comes to significant stuff. The other thing that I would say, as far as celebration, I really appreciate it. Monday, the community the community support when the mayor announced me as his pick for Chief of Police, and he sent my name up to the city council. I'm still the interim chief, because it's a process, and so Council, I did my interview yesterday before the Internal Affairs Committee, and I received their support, and so they're going to take the final vote up on Tuesday before the Committee of the Whole and so I'm expecting a good outcome. And and next Thursday, when I'm before this board, I should be effectively, I listen. I'm anticipating what Council's blessing, actually being able to call myself your chief of police. So that's that's very positive. But right after my celebration, very shortly thereafter, I got the I got the horrific news of we lost those two children in that condition, and that just let the air out of my balloon right there at this point, because tomorrow is Valentine's Day. Yeah, and so when it's Valentine's Day, you know our department and our neighborhood police officers always do it big. And I know over here at the 11th precinct, with neighborhood police officer D Rob and his whole crew, they're going to do some amazing things as well. So we're going to have the fifth annual Valentine's Day Cupid dance, and that's going to be a Sacred Hearts Activity Center, and they're going to welcome the community over there at the cupid dance. I know the seventh precinct is doing that one. And then it's going to be a Valentine Day luncheon and movie, and that's going to be Friday, of course, february 14, for the senior residents. And they're invited out to the luncheon. And that's going to be at the river towers. And the event is going to be hosted at also at the seventh precinct, and Commander chambers will be telling you all what's going to be happening at the 11th precinct, because I know he has something in store as well. And

that concludes my report.

I want to say thank you very much for your your bold, leadership, and I'm glad that Commissioner Smith is here as well. You know, to really say thank you for wrapping your arms around this family. A lot of people can judge, but you're not intimately involved in the situations, and thank you for rolling up your sleeves. I know how much you have rolled up your sleeve in this situation. I've been intimately involved working with you in this situation, and your your your compassion and your willingness to be able to open up these precincts, and your engagement is has been very, very powerful. Certainly, you have the support of this board. I can probably, I can speak confidently, confident to say that you have to support it is board, in terms of with city council, I was in council right after you, and what while you was testifying, and, you know, I got grilled a little bit, you know, a little bit, but, you know, I handled it very well, I believe. But the work that you guys are doing is, is, is powerful. And not only that, I've seen you work in some spaces that this community don't really understand that you work. They see what you're doing outwardly, but behind closed doors, what you're doing intimately to be able to be a blessing to so many people that's hurting, I want to say hats off to you and again. Salute to Commissioner Smith. I just left her moments ago over at where, you know, undisclosed location, and she was doing God's work. Yes, there with that family, you know. So again, any questions to the chief? There have been no questions or comments yet. You doing good today, Doc. And

I just want to let the board know on the beauty viewing audience know as well, that during my interview with city council, one of the questions they had me there for hour. And you know, a lot of questions, right? Lot of questions, but one of the things that they really uplifted was, how do you respect the board of police commissioners? How do you you know what is, what is your relationship, and how do you respect them and highly respect the board of police commissioners. But I wanted to emphasize that point, because your city council really respects the board of police commissioners, and wanted to make sure that before they put a chief in place, that the chief respects the board of police commissioners. So I understand that the Board of police commissioners is oversight, and one of my commitments that I've made is I definitely plan on, I'm going to try to break the attendance record for being the most attended chief at the Board of Commissioners and and Joanne Warwick, she, she, she had, she called the enduring public comment and she said, You know, I want the chief to stay to hear the public comments as well, and so that's going to be one of my commitments to that when I'm here, I'm here with you all. And so I'm just letting the public know that I appreciate it, and I know that the public comments not going to be all rosy and everything, but, you know, I'm here for it, and that's what we're here to have transparent exchange, and that's what it's really about. So I'm here for it

absolutely. You're not just saying that because we have the budget right now. Are you? You know

I'm on the record saying it

when I'm on the record, I'm on the record, right?

So let's

introduction of commissioners roll call you.

Commissioner woods, present, Commissioner Smith, present, Commissioner Bernard is excused, Commissioner banks present, Commissioner Bell is excused, Commissioner Burton is excused, Commissioner Carter, present, Commissioner Moore, present, Commissioner Presley here, Commissioner de Walsh, present.

Seven of present, sir, we have

a quorum. Okay? I entertain a motion for the approval of the February 13 agenda. So moved, moved by Commissioner. More support, supported by Commissioner banks. Any discussion, all in favor. Say, aye. Anyone opposed on the motion is carried, entertain a motion for the approval of the minutes of the january 30, 2025,

minutes so moved,

moved by Commissioner Moore, supported by Commissioner the wash. Any discussion, all in favor, say, aye, and one opposed. The motion is carried, I attend and entertain a motion for the approval of the minutes of the February 6, 2025,

minutes. So move by Commissioner Moore,

supported by Commissioner Carter. Any discussion, all in favor, say, aye, and one opposed, the motion is carried.

So the

introductions of electives is not on my agenda. Or here go on the E introduction of Bill PC staff, Chief of Police and elected officials. And let me say hello to my good friend, Representative Carter. Tyrone Carter, how you doing? All right? Good. Good to see you today. And thank you for champion the police accountability bills and the House last year, and looking forward to engaging with you more. And thank you for being a strong support for the public safety trust fund that would bring millions of dollars back here to the city of Detroit, $18 million to be exact, and so and that will fund policing as well as CVI groups here in the city, Detroit. Thank you for being a champion and so many other things that you have championed during your tenure as state reps. I wanted to point that out. Thank you very kindly.

The Board of police commissioner staff present today our attorney speaking to the mic. I'm sorry. Attorney Dante Goss drew freeze, Felicia Tyson, Theresa blossom, Mary Barber, Candace Hayes, armisia, Joshua, Jasmine Taylor, chief investigator, Jerome Warfield, Office of Chief Investigator supervisor, Elgin Murphy, DPD, HR director, Katrina Patillo, Chief, Interim Chief of Police, Todd Bettison, Deputy Chief Arnold Williams. We also have commander Michael chambers, 12 free cent and chief of staff, as well as here tonight, the interpreters online are Ms Chica and Dr Stephanie Beatty court reporter Don handy slide and for audio visual, Sergeant Enrique Jackson and retired Sergeant Alan Quinn for audio visual, Charles Henry for Media Services video. We also have elected officials, Marie overall of state representative, Tyrone Carter's office is on Zoom. Kim Jackson, 11th precinct, President of Community Relations, bridge a butler, second precinct community relations, President. We also have MS Ladon Davis, Office of council member Fred der Hall, who's on Zoom Damian Mitchell, who's a community liaison for city council Councilman Scott Benson. We also have Kenneth Johnson, l of city councilman Coleman Young the second. We also have Ladon Davis of office, Council of council member Fred der Hall, Lieutenant Mark young president of lieutenants and sergeants, Mister Ron Thomas, President Detroit police officers. And we also heard from former Detroit Police Commissioner William Davis, and that's who I have listed and signed in thus far, sir.

Thank you very, very kindly. And thank all of the council members who have sent representatives of very fine men. And this, I know this is Councilman Scott Benson district. He's, I want to thank say Detroit. He has done great work with say Detroit. Eric Reed, but also Mitch album. This is the, this is the place that Mitch album built. And I work directly with Mitch album. I work. I was at the ground breaking here, and watched this place get built. And I know Councilman Benson was very, very, very supportive of this project. Councilman, young team members here as well, so and all of the council members who have been represented online. So let's go to the bill PC officer, report this resolution. Honor and Karen l Washington Commissioner, banks,

yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Chair, yes,

sir. Is Karen Washington here? Present.

Okay?

All right, Karen Washington was here her and her husband. Her husband took sick, and she had to rush him to the hospital. So we just pray that all is well with her husband. I got a call from Theresa blossom, and she filled me in on everything, so I wasn't here when she was here, but

resolution honoring Karen l Washington, whereas Karen l Washington is a resident of the city of Detroit and has served the residents of North northeast Detroit for over 30 years, she is currently the currently The executive director of Emmanuel community house incorporate, founder of the director of restore northeast Detroit and immediately pass residents of We Care Van Dyken, seven mile community. And whereas Washington's effort at Emmanuel community house, Incorporated, provided her an opportunity to build 31 units of single family housing, ninth, nine of which were sold, and 22 are currently in in a 15 year program, 15 year rental program. She also built a community park known as John R Park. John R community park provided educational and recreational programs for children and families, mentoring, jobs, readiness, food distribution, and developed partnerships with community business owners and church leaders. And whereas, in November of 2011 Karen organized partnerships of six collapative. Partners known as residents, empowered, strengthened, transformed our residential environment northeast Detroit, ned to address what residents could do to further improve their quality of lives. The focus of restoring it is to address crime and safety,

neighborhood bontification,

economic and community development, build and sustain and Investment Club and empower youth and educational as a resident, restores dedication to improving the quality of life for residents in Detroit, the organization was granted $500,000 grant from art place America for the project entitled create Ned. Create Ned is dedicated to enhancing city parks and providing artists of Detroit opportunities to showcase their talent throughout the neighborhoods, and whereas in 2014 restore Ned reached a level of fame by organizing residents of to fight the city of Detroit sale of Lemke recreation center after lobbying city council and the mayor, Mike and the mayor Lemke was saved. The protest drew the attention of Mitch album, and before long, Mitch album, Mr. Album, through his nonprofit, say play, Detroit, officially entered an agreement with the city of Detroit to reopen Lemke as a recreation recreational and after school programming facility for the youth of Northeast Detroit. Today, Lemke playfield is home to say, play Detroit for Detroit Lions quarterback, former former Detroit Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford's football field the Detroit Tigers judge Damon Keith, baseball field, and will soon debit a soccer field. Now, therefore, let it be resolved that the Detroit board of police commissioners, speaking on the behalf of the citizens of of the great city of Detroit, recognize and honors the long life contribution and commitment to excellent and public service of Miss Karen Washington, her display of unwavering community Spirit has improved the quality of life for the citizens of Detroit. We thank You. We thank and congratulate you through the cheer I move that we place this resolution into the archives of the board of police commissioners. Is Is there a second? Is there a second?

Motion made by Commissioner banks to adopt the resolution and put in our archives and is supported by Commissioner Moore. Any discussion, all in favor? Say, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. Let's go to the commander of the 11 precinct.

Thank you very much. Commissioner,

good evening. Your honorable body. The online audience and those in attendance. Commander Michael chambers, I've been the commander here at the 11th precinct since September. Blessed to be here. It's an outstanding community, and we have wonderful officers at the 11th precinct. So I'm first going to start talking about crime stats in 2024 and 2025 and then I'm going to talk about various community activities we are doing within the precinct. So due to the hard work of 11th precinct officers and assistance from other entities around the department, we saw significant crime reductions, specifically violent crime, in 11th precinct in 2024 we closed the year with a 25% reduction in homicides. We had six less in 2024 compared to 2023 we saw 2020 25.7 reduction in non fatal shootings, with 25 less non fatal shootings. Last year than 2023 we saw 12.8% reduction in robberies with 16 less last year than the previous year. And one of our biggest drops was a 50% reduction in carjackings with eight less than the previous year. So our strategy, which I will discuss shortly, is working as of today. The 11th precinct is either showing a reduction in or is even with 2024 crime numbers in eight of the nine crime categories in 2025 so this year, when looking at our homicides year to date, let me knock on something. We do not have a homicide 11th precinct this year and at this time last year, we had five. So for our non fatal shootings, we are even with last year, we have two non fatal shootings year to date, and we had two at this time last year. Our sexual assaults this year are down 66% we at this point last year, we had six, and we were down to two. This year our robberies, we're seeing a 36.4% reduction in our robberies. We're down four from this point last year knock again. We have not had a car jacking this year within the 11th precinct as well. So we're we're even with last year they did not want to have one at this time last year as well. We've also seen a 41% reduction in our motor vehicle thefts. We have 28 less vehicle thefts in our precinct this year as as opposed to last year. At the same time, we're also seeing a 23.9% reduction in burglaries and an 8.8% reduction in large cities. So like I said, there's, there's nine categories that we're measuring daily, and then eight of those were either down or even with last year. So we're, we're off to a great start. So the only area that we are up this year is our aggravated assaults. Year to date, we're up 32% in our aggravated assaults as compared to last year. So the majority of that is our domestic violence. And no one offended incidents that's actually occurring within residences. So it's awful. It makes it difficult to police. But what we're doing to combat this, track this trend, we're working closely with our departments domestic violence section to target repeat offenders and apprehend those committing these offenses. Additionally, our precincts assigned social worker assists in offering resources and effort to reduce these instances of domestic violence, and she also assists victims with obtaining personal protection orders. Further, we're directing additional patrols into our scout car areas, showing the largest increases. So now I'll talk more about our violent crime strategy that's helped to reduce our numbers both in 2024 and 2025 we are using target enforcement while we're putting additional cars in our hot spot areas out of service. Being proactive. We're also utilizing dedicated traffic officers for increased traffic enforcement in our hot spots. We're doing special attention to our parking lots, to our bars, to our halls, to our dollar stores, and also our problem spots. We're doing weekly restore peace operations, which consists of our ticket and toes, are offered to engage operations and warrant sweeps. We also have what I think are the best MPOs in the city. They are focusing on our quality of life issues, establishing block clubs, addressing blight, recruiting additional green light location, and they're regularly addressing our see click Fix complaints by impounding vehicles on the street, on private property, and handling traffic and squatter complaints. We also have the apprehension team that goes out daily and pursues our known offenders, specifically those committing violent crimes utilizing guns and even knives or anything like that, non gun related as well. We also have an embedded Michigan Department of Corrections agent, so our officers will go out with that M, D, O, C, agent and do home checks on our probationers and parolees. We have a very active Special Operations and Detective section that is typing up search warrants daily, which we execute as one of our tools. And we have a cease fire unit within our precinct that goes out, responds all the shootings, assist with evidence collection, apprehension of suspects, and we also work with our cease fire chaplains to go out and do messagings to the gang members and try and get them to live, live properly. We offer them jobs, different things, to get them help so that maybe they can give away from those different criminal acts. So we have that going on as a supplement to our ongoing strategy. We have joint efforts with our neighboring precincts. So we boarded the seventh, the ninth and the 12th precincts, as well as Highland Park, Amtrak, Hazel Park and Warren as a force multiplier. We also utilize specialized units across the department. So we'll have our catch unit, which is our commercial auto theft unit. Come in, we'll have narcotics, gang Intel and traffic enforcement. So just now, Shifting gears over to community engagement. Are like I said, our MPOs are just outstanding. They get out there. They're heavily involved, attending events, holding events. We're also one of our MPOs. Robinson leads the youth explorers, which is across the city. We also go into schools do anti bullying, conflict resolution classes, Stranger danger, gun safety tips, gun lock giveaways. Also, MPO Williams does a sisterhood program, and MPO Eric Hill also goes and does an active assailant prevention program with schools and churches, just to talk a little bit about the upcoming community events within the 11th precinct tomorrow at the VFW located at 18 651, mound, from 11 to 3pm we're going to have a senior Valentine's Day dance at the VFW tomorrow, on Saturday, the 22nd here at, say, Detroit play center, we're going to have a Police Community Summit that's going to be from 10am to 4pm that's going To bring citizens in, as well as our police officers, and we're going to all come together and just kind of talk from different angles, different perspectives, and see what we can see, where we can meet and compromise on different things. We're also going to have a safety summit at Vernon chapel, located at 18 500 Norwood. That's going to be on February 27 that's going to be from 6pm to 8pm so that's going to be actually led by MPO Hill. He's going to not only talk to the churches and that about, you know, how to handle different incidents, should they happen in the church, but he's also going to talk to any citizens that come up and also talk to them about how they can improve safety at the residences. And lastly, we took the last couple months off with our community meetings, but we're going to start back up next month on March 11. We're going to have our 11th precinct Community Council Advisory Board meeting, and that's always the second Tuesday of the month at the 11th precinct at 6pm and that'll conclude my report. Yes, sir,

yes, sir. Commissioner banks,

Captain, you. You mentioned, I believe you. I You, I believe you mentioned you haven't had a single homicide at number 11 this year. That's correct, sir. Okay, wonderful. Now, you know, we almost into March in about a couple more weeks. How are you having that type of success? You beefing up patrols or Well, what are you doing special? Because we almost into March in a couple more weeks.

Well, I mean, it's city wide. There's outstanding job being done at all the precincts across the city. It's attributed to our outstanding officers. It's attributed to our community assisting us, working with us. It's a lot of factors come together. We can't do it alone. We have the community working with us and and it's been effective, and we're just going to stay at

it. Okay? I'm all set. Mr. Chair, thank you, Captain. Any

more questions or comments for the Commander? Commander, great, great guy. I've been Matthew, using the second precinct, right? Yeah, so at the second yeah, I've known you since then. You know, in a amazing work, great, great work you've been doing. And I was in DC with that guy back there last week, and I was present at the meeting. I was just online, you know, so I'm still I have a record and not missing one meeting since I've been on the board of Police Commission and so, but doing amazing work with the explorers chief, you guys the plan that you guys are engaged in this community. Maybe you could speak to the community about that. Or how do they engage on these vape shops and these marijuana shops that's poisoning children. I know that Commissioner Presley was with us here in 11th precinct when we engaged the shop that was selling to children in Persian High School, and very powerful response from the department and to close that shop down and close the other shop down, down the street. That is the type of engagement we love. But the explorers under this man's leadership has been doing an amazing job, and we need to make sure that that they are properly resourced, because these children are going in there, and they deserve all of the love and attention that we can give them, because they are stopping a lot of poisoning and happening in the city of Detroit. Yeah,

through the chair Commissioner woods, thank you for that. The Explorer Program is an excellent program, and officer, or a neighborhood police officer, Robinson leads that effort up city wide with the young people, and then that also is a pipe way for the young folks to ultimately choose the profession of policing. And matter of fact, when I was before City Council yesterday, as well, Council Member Johnson expressed her support and encouragement to continue on and supporting the Explorer program. But the explorers under the leadership of MPO Robinson is very beneficial, and it's beneficial city wide. And oftentimes we say, as adults when we're meeting, we're talking about what we need to do for young people. But this is an avenue where young people get to sit at the table as well and offer their input. And so working with our police officers that are under the age of 21 we send them in undercover to these smoke shops, to these liquor stores, to these gas stations, along with our explorers to purchase, to attempt to purchase, things that shouldn't be sold to minors. And we do have gas stations and smoke shops and others that have sold vapes to them, and we're taking a hard line stance, and some of them have actually been green light locations. So if you are a business and you're participating in our green light program and you sell an illegal product, you know, unauthorized, to one of our miners, I'm going to pull that green light so they won't no longer be in our Green Light Program. I met with Mr. Nasser bedoon today, and many of you know Nasser bedoon. He was one of the original eight green lights that started the program, and I have his full support. And so we're going to be calling all of the gas station operators in to put them on notice, but I'm going to be taking a hard line stance, utilizing the law department, utilizing all city resources to ultimately, if they don't get their act together, shut them down absolutely.

And we got state rep Representative Carter here. I know that they had a building to strengthen the laws in that area. And unfortunately, we weren't able to get it done on in that lame duck sex session, it was brutal, you know, but it was right there. And we're praying that you guys would champion that again in this legislative session, to make those penalties more swift to those bad actors that's poisoning our children again. And you might want to talk to the state rep to try to get you some earmark for those children too. Yes. So thank you, Commander.

We have a couple more people on Zoom, right. Okay,

yes, Mr. Chair, we have two more speakers on Zoom. CAC, CAC. Scottie Bowman, and after Mr. Bowman, Miss Rhonda Adams, and then that'll be it, sir, okay.

Thank you very kindly. You may be heard. Mr. Bowman,

yes. First of all, I wanted to bring up the fact that and when you had the part of introducing elected officials left me out. Community Advisory Council is an elected body. I apologize for that. And I actually, I believe it was, I think it was the secretary who had reading out those names. Okay. The other thing is that I originally came on to comment about is, first of all, I'm Congratulations, Mr. Betts, and I know it's not done yet, but and I appreciate that you're respecting the process as you must, as a non member of the board and as a person who's not in your shoes, of course, go ahead and be presumptuous and say that I think you're going to be approved and worried about it. In any case, are there a couple issues I think the commissioners need to pay attention to, and one of those is, again, I think you need to look into more transparency as regards to the release of video when there are incidents, especially officer involved shootings, one two, you need to have your own attorney. You did at one time have your own attorney. I understand one of the former board members who is now Corporation Counsel apparently disagrees. I think you should challenge that in court. Now, how do you challenge things in court if you don't have your own attorney? Well, I know there are board members who, or at least one, is an attorney. I know that there are people who agree with me, who are attorneys. Perhaps you can find someone willing to represent you and challenge the Corporation Counsel in court so you can have your own attorney once again, which is absolutely necessary for independent oversight board. Thank you for your time.

Thank you very kindly. Next speaker,

yes, hi. I am so glad to be representing the business men and women's social club of Detroit. My name is Miss Adams, and what I like to say is I do believe that the citizens that we are as an art large group have stated from our organizations thus far regarding the support of public safety trust fund is positive also other Alignable emphasis with the CBI protocols for the budget, the upcoming budget, and one of the main things we want to look at when it comes to the protocols for the DD ot plus, we Want to look at the housing and transit for public safety and for our land use and equity for the city of Detroit in public health and safety, okay, and so innovative transit housing should be considered in that DDOT plus, because that's a large chunk of our budget, and if we can revise it and get some of that funding to go towards public safety and transit for housing. And what I mean by that is there is many ways to skin a cat when it comes down to having our homeless being sheltered. One being emphasis on transit, housing and for RVs, as well as making it more safe for community of such, and putting that in our protocol. And so that is where I say public health and safety interact and transit is necessary to make those type of things happen. Thank you.

Thank you very kindly.

The it's a community person here for this city, for this district here, it's the community person here, if you want to come and welcome us and have any comments, I want to afford you that I didn't see it on the agenda, but I want to make sure that we give you the respect that you do and thank you for your leadership and work that you're doing in this community. Thank you,

and thank you guys for being here. My name is Kim Jackson. I'm the president

of the talking to Mike a little bit more. Thank you, President

of the 11th precinct police, Community Relations Council. And of course, as it was already mentioned, we meet every second Tuesday. We take january, february off. Thank you all for being here this evening. Thank you for picking this beautiful place, Detroit. Say, I appreciate you guys coming in tonight. Thank you for coming. It's so good to always see you, Interim Chief medicine for now, but thank you for attending. That makes the community feels really good that you actually come out. You've always been a community person, and I thank you for that, because the community likes to see our chief. So thank you for doing that. Thank you for always having our backs, and thank you guys for being here this evening. If you have any questions for me, I'm here. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you so much, and thank you for your hospitality. Yeah, so let's go to unfinished business. It's this closed session pursuant to section eight, 8h of the Open Meetings Act. I want to say that this matter remains unready. When the parties are ready to advise this item will be renewed under new business.

New business.

What is your pleasure? Commissioner Moore, Chairman,

I like to make a motion to postpone items A and B under Section A seven, I

think you have to do them separately.

Okay, yep, I like

to make a motion to postpone item seven a until next meeting.

Motion made by Commissioner more to second seven a, any support second, second by Commissioner de Walsh in discussion, all in favor, say, aye. Anyone opposed, a motion is carried. What is your pleasure, Mr. Chairman,

I'd like to make a motion to move item 7b

A, postpone it until next week. Okay?

Motion made by Commissioner Moore to postpone 7b and second by Commissioner Dewas, any discussion? All in favor? Say, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried now we're going to go to this other new business. I want to entertain a motion to rescind the appointment of Jasmine Taylor, administrative assistant to the board of police commissioners. So moved support motion made by Commissioner Presley, second by Commissioner Moore. Any discussion? All in favor? Say, Aye. Aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is Carrie?

Any other new business before we close up?

Yes, I'm not sure this is new business. I just wanted to make a comment so that the chief would know we have been in our community in southwest Detroit. A lot of people are concerned and living in fear, as we all know, but I wanted to give a shout out to Commander holder is how you hold a bomb. Holder bomb she has been meeting with the leadership in the community on a regular basis, and has kind of allayed some of the fears that that many of our people have there, and as well as representative, Carter been meeting with with her, and I want to thank him as well, but I wanted you to know that that is happening. And I would just say other commanders and other precincts probably should bring up those issues, because it's not just Hispanics that are being targeted, it is anyone who comes from another country is being targeted, at least this is what we're hearing. So you know, thank you for that and for the support. I just wanted you to know she's doing a great job there. Thank you

through the chair commissioner was thank you for bringing that up. I was just in a meeting with her yesterday, and we had representatives from all nationalities within my office the leadership. We had a robust conversation. And the great thing about commander holder bomb also is she, she's fluent in Spanish, and so we had individuals who couldn't speak English sitting in my office, and she was able to translate. But all of our command staff, they have been having those conversations. We have been pushing it all the way down to our patrol officers as well. You know, we are a welcoming city. We stay within our lanes, and our lane is to enforce local and state law, and I use the example all the time, just like if a FBI agent is riding down the street and they see somebody on Woodward and East Warren commit a traffic violation and run a red light that FBI agent is not going to pull that car over and write a citation. We have bright lines, and our bright line is to make sure that we are doing public safety. And so if you're undocumented and you're the victim of a crime, I want you to feel comfortable to come into any police precinct and still report that without fear that our officers are worried about your immigration status, and so that's what we don't do. And so folks will say, Well, what do you do? How do you cooperate with ice our relationship when it comes to that is like I said, we stay within our lanes now. They have a job to do. They do their job. If an individual is arrested, whether you're a United States citizen or citizen from another country, and we take you into custody, well, you're going to get fingerprinted, and you're going to have your information entered into the law enforcement information network. When that's entered, of course, state police, other police agencies, including custom Border Patrol and ice, can see it. Now, if they're looking for you and they submit a detainer to us, we will cooperate. But if you committed a violent crime, you've committed a crime within our city, we're going to take care of you first, and so we're going to do what we do as far as submitting a warrant to the Wayne County prosecutor. But um, if they do have a detainer, and when we're done with them, we will turn them over to um, in honor that detainer.

Thank you so much for those details. Appreciate it. Commissioner banks, no,

I'm all set.

Commissioner was asking what I was going to ask. Thank

you. Thank you. And I just want to thank you again, Chief, and thank this community, and thank all of the support staff for your hard work, the tech staff and everyone in here. What is the pleasure of this board motion made by Commissioner Moore to adjourn. Second, by Commissioner, banks, any discussion all in favor say aye. Anyone opposed. The motion is carried this meeting is adjourned.