Sure. So I went through many years of working for very large, very well known international entities like the UN and and these large organizations that people will be familiar with. And they all have a role to play. Right? They do huge things at scale and are have built up major systems and structures to kind of maintain that. Meeting Sean in Haiti was also another one of these moments that switched my entire life around in that, you know, I've been working for a lot, a larger organization in Haiti for years when the earthquake hit. And then jumping into the space of immediate relief was really interesting, because Haiti was one of the first complex emergencies of its kind after the big tsunami in Asia, it was happening in an urban area. There's a lot of structures and systems that are already there. And yet, we were using these old ways of working, that have been created in rural disasters in this really, really complicated urban disaster. So when I was watching this kind of unfold, and we're kind of still stuck in these, you know, old ways of working, it just didn't feel right. And so it was really refreshing to meet Sean, you know, at a camp that he had been living in for nine months managing the largest displacement camp, and to have somebody who's so outspoken, who's so smart, that was like, there's no reason why we need to do it this way. Why aren't we doing it this other way? That makes so much more sense? Why are we continuing on, you know, just maintaining these large camps, and we should be trying to pull people out back into their homes, where they came from, and focus the majority of money on making those communities stronger than what they were before. And having that experience with him, and working that through with them. And having such a great sort of, you know, thinking partner, and action partner, somebody who has the bully pulpit, it was amazing, we were able to force our way outside of the old ways of working, and kind of working in this, this kind of bold and risk taking and adaptive way that, you know, a lot of these structures couldn't do, because they were so kind of stuck, right. So that was one of the biggest moments of creating that core value for us as an organization. You know, I so remember, clearly, when, when we went after the earthquake, there was, you know, all these estimations of how many buildings were destroyed. And, you know, it's going to take 56 years to remove the rubble for people to be able to move back into their communities. You know, there's like 100 million cubic meters of rubble. And it just felt so overwhelmingly impossible that it just kind of makes you want to give up and when you're in it, and you're seeing it, you see, you know, two stories full of just broken buildings, like it just affects you. So, you know, there's really no other choice. But for us, who had lost people in that process, who had lost people in the earthquake, like, like we did, me and my colleagues, were like, you know, what, everyone pick up a shovel and just start digging, right? And so, for us, that was like, That continues to be such a key cornerstone, to our ethos of just do it, you know, yes, it's an impossible task. But unless we start, we aren't going to actually do anything. Right. So what was amazing is that, you know, it's almost like catching a fire, right? It's like, when we started, you know, at the time, I was not working with Sean directly, I had my I was working for this other organization. But I jumped into the space of debris removal. I mean, I knew nothing about heavy equipment, debris, removal, doesn't matter. Figured it out, put tons of people at work on the streets, tons of heavy equipment, tons of trucks, Sean was like, immediately got it, he's like, we want to do the same thing, help us build our stuff, we did it, we became like two of the major organizations that were basically clearing out all of the rubble in Port-au-Prince. I mean, we ended up moving like, you know, millions of cubic meters of rubble, and debris. But the most important thing was like we opened up the space for aid delivery for communities to come back to be resettled back to where they came from. And it was an amazing sort of catalyst that also then brought in all of these are other organizations to do the same. And for us, because we are very conscious of like the learning piece to this and that it is hard to take risks, it is scary. You don't know what you don't know. So everything that we've done to kind of jump into spaces, first or early on, is to try to capture all the lessons, share the cost, share the learnings, share how to do it and put that out as quickly as possible, because we know that we aren't going to be able to do it alone. We need everyone else to pick up a shovel and just dig in with us. And and we saw that happen. So that's really stuck with us continuously. And it really played out in a big way during COVID.