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Pretty much all the fun things in life do deplete mineral status. And then some of the really negative things like stress also really deplete mineral status and understanding that we are a collection of that periodic table. That is what makes us up.

Welcome to the high performance health podcast with your host, Angela Foster, the show where we talk about everything you need to break through limits and achieve a high performance, mind, body and lifestyle.

Hi, Friends, today on the podcast, we're gonna be talking about something a little bit different. We're actually gonna be talking about hair mineral testing. Now if you haven't done this before, there is a huge amount that you can find out from looking at your hair. In terms of toxicity, things like metals have built up in terms of mineral imbalances, in terms your metabolism, and actually whether it's working efficiently. So whether you have a slow metabolism or a fast metastable metabolism should I say or somewhere in between. You can also find out what your adrenal function is like and it's a very affordable test and an easy test that you can do at home. Now, this is part one in this series on her manual testing and how you can use this yourself. Part two is actually going to be going through my own results. And I'm sitting down today with Barton Scott, who is a biochemist and Nutritionist and Functional health expert who's based in Austin, Texas. And he's been recognised for developing a new category of mineral supplementation called stabilised nano minerals. This is upgraded formulas and they basically get their minerals to be so small that they are absorbed with ease by the blood cells in the body without having to undergo the digestion process. They're super, super effective, but the first step is actually to analyse your hair. And they do that for you. They also provide consultations to understand which nutrients you need most to live your best life. And I actually met Bart and he was a fellow speaker at the Health optimization Summit here in London, back in May, we got on really well. He is so super knowledgeable in this area, I think you're gonna be fascinated. So get ready to take out your notebook and make some notes on this episode. Because he has a wealth of knowledge. And everything, as he says is elemental. So we kind of interact the or intersect kind of some quantum physics there as well. So Barton is a biochemist, he's the founder of upgraded formulas. He's also a nutritionist and a researcher. And for the last seven years, he's been working on these formulas and really is passionate about helping people address the stress of daily life, things like sleep struggles, hormonal issues, fatigue, metabolism, nutrient absorption issues, things that basically we all face in our current modern environment were exposed to so many things are graded formulas, his company also supports charity water.org, in the great work that they do. So this is part one, where we're going to take a deep dive into what hair mineral testing is why it provides so much value so you can really understand it. And then as I say, part two, which is coming up in the new year is actually going to be going through my own set of results with Barton so you can understand what the nuances of hair testing are and how to really dive deep. So without further delay, let me introduce you now to the lovely Barton Scott.

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So Martin, I'm so thrilled to have you here. It was really, it was amazing to meet you at the Health optimization summit about a month ago, and we got chatting about minerals and hair sampling. And I just, I have no idea just the kind of depth that you can go into looking at that material. So I knew I had to invite you on the show for listeners to really hear this. So first of all, a very warm welcome to the show.

Thank you so much. It's great to be here with you.

Yeah, I'm really excited to have you here. I guess a really good place to start. I think before we dive into the details, because you and I were chatting and I know we can we can kind of go very deep with this and down the rabbit holes. But let's start with how did you come to this originally?

Yeah, so the and before I jump into that, if, if you don't mind, I'll just mention for people like what this can help with. And then I'll tell you why it mattered so much and why it's been so life changing for me and why why I was particularly motivated in this area, and why it was able to use my chemical engineering background and really go deeply in here and figure out some things that hadn't been solved well before. So I have a slide for the talk that I gave in London. And it's just just all the mineral deficiency related symptoms that people experience. And these are, I could just say really broadly to save time. Like if you're having any sort of thing happened in your body that isn't to your liking. We can help with that, through this process. Because everything's elemental, like the whole world, you and I are laptops that we're talking on right now. Everything is elemental. So to the extent that we ignore that we really suffer the consequences. So that could be everything from headaches to constipation, to low energy hormones, as well, the building blocks of hormones or elements. And testing for it, it's one part of it, having consultation is great, but then having supplements really absorb well. So that's the point. That's the understanding I got to about 12 years ago. And I realised, as I was in my like early to mid 20s, then finishing chemical engineering, and helping my mother I was born older parents. So they had two children, two older sisters, and then a really big gap and had me in their early 40s. And because of that I was helping my mom sort of slim down, she's never really weighed, but helping her slim down. And things were going well, things were improving. And we were using the this hair testing that I'd found we've done. I've done personally a lot of over 10 to 15k in one year and testing, just experimenting with a bunch of different types of tests, and really not being satisfied with how actionable they were. I felt like, you know, I would get blood tests back and they and it would show that I'm within range. And we can talk about why that is later. And even if there's not a lot of things wrong, and what else to do about it. The the other things that I realised I was personally really suffering with more and more was a lack of mental clarity. My mind had always been nearly photographic, I would say. And that really helped a lot in school because you're digesting a extreme amount of information in that that curriculum where you're getting, you know, a minor in math, chemistry and almost in physics as well. And then you're doing the bulk of your degree, which is why people say it's the hardest. And, you know, if you're, you know, I have a particular affinity for math, and it's way harder than med school or anything like that. So a lot of I guess what I'm saying is a lot of tax on on the mind. Right. And I had been an athlete before that, you know, track football, and then particularly wrestling where I learned supplementation as a teenager, early early on, I mean, I was supplementing, probably by the time I was 12 just to To increase the nutrients I was getting from food, because you can't just eat anything, you have to make weight, right, just like with boxing or, or any of the other weight class sports. So that was particularly difficult and draining. And because of all of that, in addition to going to a doctor, and then, you know, asking them to prescribe something similar to Adderall, which is Vyvanse, which in my case was the worst nutritional mistake I've ever made in my life. Because it's really chemically similar to cocaine, frankly, and I didn't know that then. But it's an although it's somehow not, they say it's not addictive, you start to get dependent on it, and you feel like, emotionally reliant on it. And it just all of these things, and saying that because all this is a line of awareness for people that, you know, as you're listening to this, you know, have you been an athlete Have you sweated a lot? Have you been stressed out, either through medication or just on your own, or through caffeine, you know, too much caffeine or alcohol, or all of the above. And, you know, pretty much all the fun things in life do deplete mineral status. And then some of the really negative things like stress, also really deplete mineral status. And understanding that we are a collection of that periodic table. That is what makes us up. I really went deep into that, because at that point, I already had a minor in Chemistry, I done organic chemistry, physical, quantum, all these different things. And I, I had a focus with nanotechnology and the programme. And I remember thinking, this is God, if we can build a space elevator with carbon nanotubes, we could I can certainly figure out how to apply this technology to supplements. And now Yeah, years later, we're seeing a lot of like, for vitamins, you see things like liposomes, and things like that. And there, it wasn't really a thing created for minerals. And what I realised was I had to get particle size really, really small. And if I could do that, I could also make it stable. So the products can have a three year shelf life. Or at least two, then, yeah, then we're off to the races because what I noticed in helping my mother, as she was really struggling with medication surgery, and then eventually passing because of an aneurysm. And she was otherwise like just vivacious and healthy and just seeing the life really drained out of her in her her late 60s. I remember thinking like, this is how she was retired, she had a pretty low stress life. She had the best medical care anyone could ask for. But she didn't need that she just needed nutrition. And you know, the signs were there all along the way as they always are, as someone develops disease, whether they know to look for them or not. So she had heel spurs, bone spurs and things like that stiffness, scenario, joints. Those are all around calcium calcium deposition. And you can balance that with magnesium, you can balance that with not over supplementing vitamin D, and there's a lot of different things. That's just one mineral, but just that alone probably could save your life or prolonged for a long, long time. So the Yeah, that you can imagine, you know, that was incredibly motivating. And then I had my own motivation. I realising oh my god, like if I don't if I don't figure this out, there's no way I'll achieve the things I want to achieve in life. And I like I need the energy I need the focus, I need the clarity. So that's yeah, that's how and why this matters so much and why we're so furiously on it for the last decade. Yeah, it's been quite a path and today we have you know, products that really do absorb well because that's that's what I learned really mattered is that you know, you're all the things that you care about, like you know the fact that you woke up three times last night to toss and turn in bed or maybe that's not an issue but constipation are headaches, migraines are a painful period or you know, really any truly any symptom can be traced to mineral deficiency and or heavy metal toxicity, which is something we also test for on that same test that we offer and I noticed that and this was really it was a lightbulb moment it was a lot of emotions because you're on one hand you're thankful because you know what to work on. The other part is that while you've been trying, even taking some of these supplements that you're deficient in for over a year and a half, and in our case three months, my girlfriend the time three months, her dad three months, but knowing and realising that then and seeing the effects of health just going down and down and down and medication making it worse. I just realised, gosh, this is a problem at faced by all people, all genders, all ages. And, you know, we need a better solution. So for about a year, I held out hope as we tried a bunch of different products, sent them off for testing and labs, like all sorts of tests of them myself, oh, yeah, all sorts of things. So really, you know, get clear on yes, they, this is a huge area of importance, and no, there's not a great solution, in terms of re militarising The body efficiently enough so that you remove the deficiency, you replete the body, replenish the body, rejuvenate the body, and, and the mind and in the process, you get that clarity back, you your symptoms go away, which your symptoms, you know, they're just messengers. And we, we frankly, just don't speak the language of the body very well, most of us. So, especially if we're not testing. So,

yeah, super interesting, super interesting. And I'm in a tough, tough journey for you and unfortunate. So your mum, as you're saying, but like many things, so much good has come out of it, and the number of people that you were able to help, I think, I think there'll be more listening, they probably don't fully understand because most people now are connected with the fact that they, they need some magnesium, right. But beyond that, they don't necessarily understand the other minerals that they need. Maybe there isn't, you know, some AI and things like that, but they don't know beyond that. I mean, the list of symptoms that you were talking about there, almost everyone you speak to has one or more of those right from, you know, lack of focus, mental focus at times through to fatigue through two low energy, brain fog, or even symptoms of low mood, irritability, all of these things, without any kind of necessarily physically obvious manifesting symptoms. How would people know? Like, because I find things like that often creep up on you, right? You it's almost like you become accustomed to what you feel. So you don't necessarily it's not like one day, you wake up in a really dire state, right? There's a gradual progression, as you're saying, with your mom, you know, the signs are there, if you know what you're looking for. Before we kind of get into the testing and the way you formulated these supplements to be so bioavailable. Why should people be looking out for that would indicate that there is an issue with minerals. I know you did mention like, if you're an athlete, and you're sweating a lot, if you're depleting with caffeine and things like alcohol, that just normal life, presumably a lot of people are depleted.

I think that's a great word, actually, the word presume, is, is really spot on. So it's, it's a collection of everything you just said, and everything that I just said, and if you have any of those symptoms, and you know, certainly you want to, you know, test and also if you want to just be optimal, and you're not new, your sleeps pretty good. And you have enough energy to get through the day without having to take a nap or things like that. This woman, Kelly. So so well, to wrap up before I tell the story, I would say we so we trademarked this phrase, which is test, don't guess I'm surprised it was available. I know some companies use it, I'm okay with them using it. But it really just, you know, it, it was clear to me that our intuition only takes us so far. And our intuition is enhanced whenever we are testing. Because we go, you know, I'm having these symptoms, and then you look up symptoms of say low sodium or low manganese are low, lithium, whatever it might be magnesium, potassium, and you go Sure enough, and then and then you test and you go, look at that. I am low in potassium, or maybe my maybe my potassium is artificially elevated because my body's preserving it. This is where a really great consultation comes in. Because people that aren't well trained in this test specifically will look at things and they'll they'll try to just diagnose off of off of oh, well, you know, you're Angela, you're low and these three things. So let's get you taking those things. And it isn't that simple, unfortunately. But it can be made simple through a great consultation. It's just you have to take into factors and you have to ask the person question and listen. And when you do that, as a practitioner, you're able to and we have, of course to help practitioners. They're interested in us too, but You know, the, when you do that you really serve the person in the best way possible, I believe and you go, Alright, so let's triangulate, for example, that you're low and sodium because you're having these issues. And I see and talk to me about your intake of, of sea salt. Yeah, each day, are you salting your food? Are we where are you? Are you still stuck in that old paradigm thinking? You know, we were told for years by studies that were funded by the big sugar industry, that salt was not good for us. Which is, again, not your fault. If that's currently where your thinking is, but it is incorrect, certainly, and it's not my opinion. All of that is certainly true. So I'll pause for a second, let that sink in. And then, and that alone is just massive for your mood, your energy, like people with their doing everything, right? Will but still have low sodium or magnesium or potassium, for example, will will notice that they, they don't feel great. And then they might be a little depressed, or maybe very depressed. And we can talk about depression and how that is very, very linked to all of this, this whole process. So if you're feeling blue, certainly do this process. And do it again, and do it again and do it again, as you feel better and better. But then the change happens pretty quickly. And then it's just about optimising it.

So when we're looking at them, and I mean, that's super interesting as someone who I have clinical depression for around 10 years, and no one ever mentioned salt along and this was the this was prior to me retraining in new functional nutrition. I was practising as a lawyer, and I had no idea. And I think one thing I would say is, what's confusing is some people were that it is almost a badge of honour. I don't add any salt to the food. You know, you'll hear mom say it. And I think part of that actually, is a little bit of misinformation. Because when you know, I know, for example, when I when I was still a lawyer, and I had my first child, I was looking for how can I feed when I was weaning the baby, right? How am I going to feed him effectively. And one of the first things that you learn in that process is don't solve the food because they have immature kidney function and things and in the first year, but then I think it almost pick up parents become conditioned of like, oh, we should be avoiding salt and it kind of grows from that, which probably isn't ideal. Unlike a lot of things. A little bit of knowledge is sometimes more dangerous than no knowledge at all.

Yes, wow, really well, so. Really awesome. Yeah, most people do do well, or do best with at least 3500 milligrammes of sodium per day. The recommended daily allowance is 2000 in the US, roughly that, and, you know, that's point 200 milligrammes is a teaspoon, but again, don't guess test, yeah, you know, be be taking a quantitative approach to this. Yeah. And, and that's where you get all the benefits, and then your intuition improves, and, and you start to unlock this, what, yeah, the zone of awareness that was below the level of, of, of your awareness, and then you you're able to help other people along the way. Because truly, whatever else you're doing, I don't, I don't care what anyone else is doing. If they're not doing this, they will miss things. And the reason why that is not an opinion is because this is the periodic table that we're talking about. And that is like a law of gravity. I mean, this is like Isaac Newton and Einstein talking about the, you know, like relativity and gravity, and, you know, just how, you know, like, what's the equation for force like, these? These are laws of the universe that we're just not accustomed to? Well yet? And, yes, it can be quite simple, really. Now with this understanding.

Um, so can you explain for people because I mean, it's not as well what was good about this, as well as it's an inexpensive and it's an easy way to test because it's a hair sample so they can do it at home? Can you just explain why hair first of all, for looking at this, because I was, I was quite surprised when when you were explaining, you know, when I was looking on your website, that actually it's not just mineral deficiency and heavy metal toxicity, which I knew was possible with her. But also you're looking at tyroid and adrenal and metab metabolic health as well. But I guess the two questions why, how and what will people learn from

doing? Sure, and the hormones as well? We see. So all of this gives us certain ratios give us give us insight into your tests. dosterone and oestrogen balance which we all have true or false for everyone listening, do women have more testosterone than oestrogen? So I'll just let everyone answer. In their own minds. Women have roughly 10 times more testosterone than oestrogen. And that is pretty important to understand. And we can understand that and progesterone. And when you understand that that relationship is where Dr. Mindy Pels got super involved with us building out a woman's hormone health and fasting bundle, I think it's on the site already to allow people to sort of understand where that is. And we have one for men too. But the the thing with hair that is so important to understand, and blood is that with blood, so with blood, you have a day's worth of data. And people mistakenly think like, oh, well here is in the past and blood is right now, it's like blood is you on your best behaviour. I don't know what exact terms to use for a British audience or partly British audience, but your best behaviour as you're going to the principal's office, type of thing. You know, it's like are your, you know that that is blood, because blood is pulling, it's so important that it's pulling from your bone marrow, and it's pulling from your organs, your soft tissue, other places where the body has stored nutrients, to maintain an ideal pH, and we're really thankful we should be really thankful the body is so smart to do that. But understanding that, do you also now understand that that is a really poor place to pull specifically minerals from and heavy metals. So there's, there's a study with lead, for example, acute exposure, experienced with LED and imagined that's true for many other heavy metals too. After 3030 to 32 days, you no longer see it at all in the blood, because the body is stored away in, in the tissues, because it's it's protecting you because if your body just, you know, experienced if your kidneys, liver, etc, all your detox organs experienced that level of top toxification, they would shut down or begin to shut down. Even with you know, so our and our kidneys are really robust when it comes to processing a lot of salt, they can process over three pounds of salt per day. So I don't know what babies can do. But I imagine it's a lot more than what we think they can unless they've experienced jaundice or something like that. Growing up, right. Which could be, you know, very related. And so there, there's some issues there that are also sort of backwards. And I, from what I understand hip testing wasn't taught in medical school. Because the pharmaceutical companies Yeah, I don't know if this is news for anyone or not, but pay for the curriculum virtually everywhere throughout the world, certainly in the US and many places. And the natural result of a hair test is that if you would you quote unquote, prescribed like minerals, like that would be the result. And well, pharmaceutical companies can't make money off of that. So there's that's not in line with their profit incentive. So you have to always follow that understanding to and in the same way that the sugar interests in the US long time ago paid for studies. And they they cherry picked a lot of studies that showed heart issues and different issues around salt because what they realised was when people and I know this is heartbreaking and angering, but people need to hear it that when people eat less salt, they crave Ding, ding ding. Any guesses for anyone listening? Sugar? Yeah, so and you'll notice that your body has a real limiting factor. I'll get back to blood versus hair in a second. But Bonnie has a real limiting factor in how much salt you're like high quality salt you're going to eat in a day. Use it just kind of stops. Intuitively you just sort of stop. It's really interesting. And

to say that when when something tastes really salty, you know what like, if you're eating some food, you have like an inbuilt regulatory mechanism. So if it is real be salty to you, but it doesn't say for example to your partner is because actually need is higher at that point and you're more replete. Whereas when you're not tasting it as much as because you need that.

I think so I think that is a bit of a case by case basis. It's it's hard to know, with extreme scientific certainty if that's the case, but it tends to make sense that that would be the case. But if we could, you know, understand someone's salt levels, if they had just done a hair analysis, and looked at it and determines, okay, yeah, they're not eating much salt and their, their levels show that they're low, or their level shows that they're low, or anyway, it's, it can get kind of complex, I won't go into that part yet. And we can talk about your own results later on in a different show. But people can check that out and get even more clarity there. But the, I think, yes, is the answer to that. And so the, to understand what I was saying about blood and hairs is really important. Because although blood can be good for understanding things, like you know, what's your testosterone level, and you know, some of these things like that. It is really misleading. And what I've found is that by the time based on what I just explained, by the time that a deficiency shows up in blood, we could have seen it years, I believe, even a decade, in some cases sooner in hair. And it's yeah, it's just, you know, it's heartbreaking, it's disappointing for people that they don't have that, that knowledge sooner, so that they begin to do something about it sooner. And they also begin to have a better quality of life sooner, you know, like, two years, three years, four years, five years, 10 years go by, and they're just feeling slightly worse and worse and worse. Or maybe it's maybe they gave birth, and now they're like really struggling with postpartum depression. That's an indication that this is very, the depression is very linked to your nutritional status. Because why? Well, in that case, you the mother gave away all these nutrients to build this other person. Right? elementals build, right? So, of course, just like what the soil, the soil can give to the food, what it doesn't have, and we're seeing that, you know, roughly half of the nutrients 80 years ago, today is what's in the soil. So we've seen almost a 50% reduction in soils around the world that yeah, it's I mean, it's a real issue, because we're, we're mono cropping. And what does that really mean? People throw that term around? Well, when you have one crop that you plant again, and again, and again, certain crops, you know, you, we say certain foods have certain nutrients, like, oh, you know, eat a banana, for example, because that's potassium? Well, do you think the soil has much of let's say, Its sweet potatoes, and they're known for having, you know, these three elements? Do you think after 12 years of planting the same crop in the same place, the soil is going to have much of that nutrient left in the topsoil? You know, so, once you start to think in these terms, you go, Okay, I like, I'm really clear, I get it. And then it's just a matter of, well, what do I do about it? Because the soil isn't, whether in every, I encourage everyone to eat organic and grass fed and all of these things, but that just ensures that luck, hopefully that the glyphosate load and other pesticide load is low. And that's great, because that's also a toxin the body would have to deal with which would certainly cause an increased need in nutrients to balance blood pH, detox, all these things, right. So yeah,

yeah, it's interesting as well, what you say that about depression because I think you know that that's certainly what happened with me is I was never expecting to experience it. And then postnatal depression after my third child, then got worse. I had two kids, I think, you know, by the time I was due to return to work, I was three months pregnant with my second child. So it was very quick, two sets of C sections, two children very quick. And I that's when the depression really sat in it was actually originally I was then looking at like googling prenatal depression, like what's going on? Can you can you be depressed in pregnancy? And obviously, I was growing another baby and it was depleting me I'm really got over the C section first time. And then when I had my third child, it manifested Much, much of it because that's when it became, you know, clinical depression, which was much harder to treat with sort of even bipolar medication. And I think no one along the way, said to me The you know, you should really look at it was just like, Oh it's you know, the gynaecologist is hormones the psychiatrist was. No, it's got nothing to do with this. Look at your children. You know, your youngest is now to this is just nowhere near postnatal anymore. But no one told you it was only when I started retraining that I started to understand how important nutritionally and how you need to build your body back up. The other time that I think though, for women, that's particularly difficult, right is around perimenopause, when their hormones start to shift, and they can get uncomfortable symptoms. You know, even things like anxiety, which we noticed, in part can be due to that drop in progesterone, but also, they get things like palpitations, and I found magnesium is very helpful. In that respect. What do you think's going on there? Having, you know, looked at so many hair mineral samples and things? It seems like another critical time for women in their life?

Right, right. Absolutely. So So magnesium is definitely a big one. Yeah, you can. Like, like I said, zinc is related to testosterone and progesterone. So that that's another thought. So the what's what's interesting is that, you know, there's, when we go to quote unquote, hormones specialists throughout the world, they, they, it's just like a specialised doctor, typically, unfortunately, not in every case. But they should all be doing this in conjunction with anything else they're doing. Because if they're just, you know, quote, unquote, treating someone, then I mean, that, and then they're not looking at this, then they're only give their only half session, there are two toolbox to work with that. They're going to be, you know, maybe prescribing progesterone, which will that help you feel better? probably will. But is that solving the underlying problem? Well, think about? I mean, the answer there is, of course not. But the real thought behind it is like, let's really think on that for a sec and go, Well, you know, Angela, for example, or, you know, if we went back in time, and someone was having this conversation, if they just said well, you know, have you ever had your test or on your your testosterone, oestrogen progesterone levels tested before? Yesterday now? Okay. All right. So the, you know, it's clear that they weren't always low. All right. So we should be able to reverse them if we understood the building blocks of now, that especially if we could absorb the nutrients that build that make the make the, these hormones, right. So, so the building blocks of hormones, one of the most important parts is the elements, the the minerals, these minerals also, and this was a huge lightbulb moment for me years ago was understanding that when someone has mineral deficiency, they accumulate toxic metals more quickly, they accumulate toxic metals more quickly, because the electric energy in the body is such that it's lower. And it's, it's a lot like if you picture a river that used to be moving really, really quickly. And then now it's slow, what happens to the sediment in that river, you know, it falls out of solution. It's not carried along through the body. So they're not you know, you're not eliminating those those nutrients from body. So if someone's doing a heavy metal detox, and they have low potassium levels are low potassium and low iodine levels, it's likely that they won't ever truly move those heavy metals. And I don't like chelation. But this process is really powerful, over time to move at the speed and match the speed of the body and get those nutrients in. And by doing that, that that helps you detox these specific heavy metals. The other word on that it's really important to understand is, you know, imagine trying to quote unquote detox without knowing what elements what toxic elements you need to detox. That's not a very sophisticated approach. If you don't have that information. If you're just doing a random you know, 21 day cleanse, you know, great though you'll probably see some benefit likely because of the nutrients in those foods, whether it's celery or anything else. So that and also the removal of any more toxic foods through that period. You're temporarily giving your body a bit of a break there. And this is true for fasting too and fasting is great. I did a long 11 day fast, the heal a couple of injuries when I of sprinting, partially pulled a hamstring and, and that just set me on this, this path. And then I just was checking in and it was taking water minerals, a little bit of black coffee here and there green tea here and there in the early part of the day to sort of put 100 For the first couple days. And although I would say all of this, like people need to have a trusted practitioner, and this is to take this as just stories and notes but and really test and understand your levels. So as a as a disclaimer, but I had that information, I knew that and you know, supervised would be a great way or guided would be a great way to do that. But in the fast, your body does begin to purge some of these these heavy metals if you're doing an extended fast. And so it can be a load on your detoxification organs as well. So that's something else to be aware of.

Yeah, and that also what I think is interesting as well, I was thinking now is, you know, you read about there are studies that show when people do very aggressive sauna protocols to detox. And they start high dosing niacin and they do that, you know, approach at the very worst political or sooner everyday and really creating that flush. And there's been cases of triggering autoimmunity, and things like that, and, you know, with really severe consequences for people that they don't understand. And actually, it sounds from what we're saying that this will be a very good thing to check before you go on anything aggressive like that, really to protect your body and understand what a what am I detoxifying? Or trying to detoxify? And what have I got mineral wise? Am I repeat enough to really support that process? Right?

Right, right. And, for example, if someone has really low sodium, or their sodium to potassium ratio is really low, they don't want to do any sauna, at least not to the point that they're sweating. You could hop in, get your core body temp up, which helps you feel good. But the they're, you know, actually getting in there and sweating on a daily basis. Now, there's, there's some really good studies that show I always think about the minimum effective dose because it is a time thing as well, right? If you're What if you're not having a song every day, and still getting all the benefits. So four days a week, at 20 minutes is really the an ideal studied. spot that is really, really good. But again, if you're if your sodium potassium ratio is below a certain level, I'm not gonna say specific numbers, because I don't want people to cite to self diagnose or anything. But you know, because it's also the whole picture. It's not just this, then yeah, that is something I would not have them do. Yeah. So that's, that's really important. If your adrenals don't have the nutrients that they need, the, you know, the Can we look at this through the test to, then you know, that you're not going to mobilise those toxins, even if you're stimulating your body will sort of get them out of the cells, and then they will just go right back in because, you know, the the flow of the river isn't, isn't constant enough, the adrenal activity isn't constantly enough.

And what have you found as well with people, for example, who could often you see this in men, particularly when I've looked at, you know, their genetic testing and they have a higher predisposition to hemochromatosis the start to accumulate more iron body? And you can see that with a blood test this is this, do you see a different reading when you do the hair sample? Or do you expect?

Yeah, I would expect it to be the same. In that case, you would see a high iron ore a, possibly a high iron to copper ratio. And, you know, giving, giving blood every two to three months in that case, until that is under control is great. Also, they may need to supplement copper, especially if they've been taking a lot of zinc or some zinc for a while. And they don't eat foods that contain copper. It's interesting. Zinc and Copper also become personality really quickly in a masculine feminine relationship that I've never heard anyone talk about. could touch on that as well. Yeah.

Cool. Can you touch on that?

So when someone is supplementing a lot of zinc all the time, or very often, then they become very analytical. Zinc is for that, that reason a few others thought of as a very masculine element. Iron certainly is very masculine, which probably doesn't surprise people. Copper is creativity. It's very, it's very feminine. The downside to zinc and the downside to copper both What's different, right? So with zinc, you have the ability to get overly analytical. And with copper, overly creative to the point that you will start projects and not finish them, you won't, you'll have a lower disposition that can be, and that's where it becomes personality people go, Oh, it's been me my whole life. So that's, that's a big part of it, it could also be the magnesium levels are low. So they have anxiety, and they, you know, it's like, just tough to follow through fully. Brain fog, you know, all those things, low sodium can cause fog as well. So all of these elements work together, it's not any one element being low, it's, it's that whole picture, which you don't, that's the other reason with, with blood, you only ever really get individual levels of things, you see them in relationship to each other. And it can be very dangerous with someone has a low level of iron. And they have anaemia symptoms, but maybe their copper level is just off the charts low for any number of reasons. And then they start what they start doing, they start supplementing iron, and then they push the copper out of their buying, they get in the very dangerous state that I'm certain many people have died from that. We just like the doctors never prescribe to, or never issued a real reason didn't understand the real reason why people died. So you know, it's just a really important thing to understand. That's why I say no matter what else you're doing, any other type of testing any other type of supplementation, this is this is elemental essentials. Really powerful

about testosterone there, because with zinc and it being more masculine, because in women with PCOS, and you supplement with zinc Ashi, often you'll see an improvement in kind of testosterone driven symptoms like acne hirsutism, in things that you're saying can no say it, but it's support and men healthy testosterone levels.

It supports it and both. Yeah, what you're saying there, in my mind is very, like, that's very, in line with what I'm saying. So it's, yeah, it's a both not an either or type thing. And it certainly helps both men and women, I mean, I can take a woman and make her, you know, outwardly seem more, more masculine or more, more feminine. You, I guess, in one example, like imagine a guy that is supplementing a lot of zinc already masculine, it can be become easily analytical to the point that it's difficult to connect emotionally. So this is how, and then over time, maybe that wasn't the beginning of relationship over time, started supplementing this or a woman that was higher copper, feminine, the other relationship starts out one way, and then you have this whole other thing that happens and quite literally becoming different people in the process. And maybe they're both supplementing in opposite directions. She's taking copper supplementation, and he's doing zinc, and they're kind of pulling pork, or she's doing a lot of zinc. And he's eating a lot of foods containing a lot of copper and maybe supplementing things that have copper or copper directly. So there's a lot or and not eating much iron containing food. And yeah, this it's really interesting how, how these things can shift.

It's really interesting. And I guess, you know, when you're talking that you mentioned, like quantum chemistry and quantum physics and just everything being mental. I mean, have you found then that this getting these mineral balances, like, you know, a lot of people are talking about, you know, the law of vibration law of attraction, what your frequency is, and how you can attract things into your life? How much would you try this? And I know it sounds a bit woowoo but it's just strikes me it's quite interesting.

What's I mean, it's, it's hugely, it's usually connected. It is the science of that, that you're talking about. It's absolutely that. Yeah, certainly. When you don't have the mental clarity to, to put yourself out in the world and let's say what would have required for you to track that thing was you'd be have enough energy to feel extroverted and go out and enjoy this social get together, which would have which lead ends up leading to this relationship or this business connection or whatever it is. is Yeah, I mean, absolutely has not only has the power but you know, is what drives us? Because it's a building blocks of hormones. And you could say that hormones and neurotransmitters drive us right building blocks of that as well. So, and yes, you need good fats too. And yes, you know, amino acids, but ultimately all food, all amino acids, everything have a basis in elements, right? So because it's a periodic table, again, there's no other nutrients, or no other things on the planet, except for that periodic table that we've, you know, that we're quantifying. So that is, when you start to look at it through that lens, things get pretty clear, I would say, No, and then it's just a matter of, I call it a spiral upward at tightening, ever tightening spiral. As long as you're continuing continuing to test we recommend quarterly. I do, you know, as often as every two months, because an inch of hair is about six to eight weeks of data. So yeah, for and that can come from underarm pubic scalp as well. So, yeah, you're you're doing hair, and there's a video on site, but you can take it from multiple different places, so it doesn't show. Obviously, that's how people do it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, that would never be the way to do it. Because people wouldn't want to do that. Right? Unless they were like, about to cut their hair really short or something. But you know, you know, the nape of the neck, usually, you can cover up spots really easily. And you just take small amounts, you know, I always say like, like in calculus, you talked about the limit going to infinity. So in this case, if the or the limit going to zero, this, you know, imagine if you took two hairs from a spot. Now, would you notice that? Okay, well, if you took two hairs from 30 spots, then you wouldn't notice that either. Now you can be more aggressive with it, and then only take care from, say, five places. And then you have enough for the sample. And there's instructions on how to do that. So anyone that really cares enough pool, find a way to do it. And, yeah, I highly suggest it because it's life changing.

Yeah, no, it is. And I'm keen to do it. So we kind of, so what we'll do is because you've explained, I think got everyone very interested on definitely why they should be doing it and how often and how really to optimise. And as you say it is super easy. And I think without doing it, we're easily missing things. And then I think you're gonna come back and talk about how we address it right and have a look at my results. And then the bioavailability of the formulas that you've created, which are pretty special. As what I'd love you to come back and do. Barton. That's okay with you. And then we can actually can take everyone through my results. I'm kind of intrigued.

Yeah, that's great. That's, that's great for you to offer that. And yeah, I'm happy to come back on and talk some more about it. I've done that before. And it's think it really, for anyone that this wasn't clear enough, or that that really helps to understand and then you see a before and after test and you go, Okay, so here's how I've improved. For example, I was filming I was on with yesterday, we looked at her results. And she's like I have it's been several weeks since she's already gone through the consultation with our team. And so this was this is really just kind of a, you know, talking through, all right, yes, here's why you're feeling a lot better. And here's the things they probably told you to talk about, or to work on, and how to work on them. And also, it was great to hear her talk about like, hey, it's only been a couple of weeks. And my brain fog was sometimes something like a six out of 1010 being the dementia, she said, and one being you know, like your brain works as well as you'd like it to. She's like, there's some times and she's incredibly smart. I've known her for years. She's like, I'll be honest, there's sometimes it's like a six or seven. And it's so much better now. And you know, it's just about staying consistent. And the analogy I would offer, as we sign off is imagine you're doing a road trip. How often you're in your car, how or even just like driving 20 miles to the place you haven't been before. How often do you look at the navigation of the GPS? Is it once is it not at all? Is it It 20 times in an hour. It's probably like 20 times in an hour. It was about what I would say. Because you're going, oh, oh, I need to turn in three miles and then turn and then you need to turn again. And yeah, another mile or half mile. So what am I saying there? Well, that's that's your your test. That is your roadmap. That without that, you're just blindly guessing. And, yeah,

I'm actually I'm actually quite dangerous. I mean, from what you're saying, as well, to just start to a lot of people have the gun sort of playing with different minerals and supplementing and as you said, there's ratios of different things that are important to that. Right. So I think testing is key. Where can people go and find out more about you in the meantime, before we come back for part two, everything you do and the formulas and things you've created?

Sure, if you want to just follow me directly on Instagram, ask Barton var to win. And, of course, the website is the best place to go to, for people to get what they need. Upgraded formula.com that you mentioned earlier? And yeah, we can even get people code if on their first purchase. Happy to do that as well. So let me know.

Yeah. Let's do that. In the show notes.

Sure. Fantastic. Awesome. Well, thank you all for listening. I hope you got a lot out of this. This has been really my life's work to this point. And I'll be working on book there'll be later this year with a little bit of luck. So yeah, it's just onwards and upwards.

Yeah. Amazing. Thank you so much, Barton, for coming and sharing all of that. And yeah, I'm excited for part two. So thanks again.

Beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, it was great to come on with you. Thanks for the opportunity.

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