Community Information Meeting: Two-way conversion of Second and Third Avenues

10:35PM Nov 10, 2023

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I'm out here, so bear with me.

Yeah, so yes, man. Outside voice Yes.

But yeah, you can't hear me, I want you to like that I figured it was a little better. So I didn't take any department public works in the city. We know that Joey had reached out to us. But we had a few other conversations with folks that we know are interested, at least in the concept of a two way conversion of second and third. So we're really here tonight, just to kind of outline what we've heard so far, the conditions that we are aware of job openings streets, but our main objective is really just to hear from you in terms of like, questions about the process, pros and cons of going one way or the other. But tonight is just for listening, I will outline where where things like next steps could be if community does want to go forward with potentially pursuing a conversion, private person and many other future discussions as well. Okay. So we're not trying to walk away from here with a very definitive decision unless everybody in the room is on the same same page. And we know that there are probably people who take his place, and we just want to make sure that we recognize there's going to be future competitions as well. So that we're correct. So we came from here to talk about specific things. We had our patient experiences with other outlying communities in conditions that we know what on the streets?

What you need to speak louder, you're like, Okay.

All right. Yep, can't get out. themselves the size of the room. So we are saying, We came here to talk about pieces of data, we certainly touch on any other questions or anything. But my outline, the existing conditions are on second period. As you know, and I know at this point, I want to touch on the pros and cons the benefits of bombings, works to convey what we've had trade offs, we want to talk a little bit about what the processes look like for divergence and then start outlining some next steps as we go from here. So just make sure we're all talking the same location is Seventh Avenue, from Randall arsenite in parsing when to switch the Mendocino and FAIR data you're looking at basically our server and move around and to the same location to between now and to where both are considered major streets which is kind of an optional aggregation system such as between your residential state which lower volumes and your arterial streets and freeways these are obviously higher on the streets they both have pretty similar range around 500 to 6000 vehicles per day which is currently on the lower side streets I would say that would you be less if somebody is starting out on the red but we're typically working with satisfied with regards to data summary as they do in their constant segments so some of its staring at it for a while. So these are really the next steps should be received a petition for conversion you do have a pretty good understanding what that exactly and I guess I wasn't mentioned ensure that the progression of the oh okay, maybe I think

okay. So the question was Why hasn't been considered and that was mostly because a few stakeholders have reached out to the city's asking the better isn't it and wanting to know more information and joined by some of our most nice YouTubers who are reached out to us for an NDA, so it's not something that he sees as it certainly he. That's why we want to create a new tech

detonating game.

Alright, where are you guys equation with process? Four,

and one stakeholder.

Joke everyone I forgot to say who you are when I called it Oh this was Germany

last year people there's a coalition is interested in this there are other people that have been looking into this since 2015. And David it needs to be done. I don't know these people and you know slowly suggested that we will be spared that's it. She didn't say do it the second before getting to it and came up in our lap lobbying. And so today to look at our backlog maybe nobody had the education about whether it was a good thing or bad and I'm not going to share about it right now just because it is great. It says to me, that's the way it has to be. So the idea was to get someone from the city that understood the benefits and the drawbacks if you educate us so if there are people and I know there are because people that have seen my you know community meeting that are already sending James letter at saying I support to a conversion. So there are people that are interested in that I'm at the city hall, the City Hall will do it and unless we go forward status it does the community and community is just Virginia

park now as

Boston Edison fans is it

since these are stakeholders that we should now

play their screen way way in place that said they have attorneys present you Okay, and now a small sheet of working here though we like to put it out nose well those are the only two I know Yeah.

I don't know anybody.

So those steps mind sharing those the only people that have specifically said they've been advocating for this, other people have written so they support the idea. But they had an advocate over the only two people to advocate for this. When I contacted Chase, the first thing he told me was this has to be community driven. This has to be a community process it's not too happy to take take to community webcast. So this is an educational session for us to understand the benefits and the drawbacks of doing that and if we can get people do this side inevitably not just Virginia Park Street near a small community here as well with the president of the park there you can work together to push this process I'm just trying to provide implications for us usual nothing has to happen again Sunday afternoon so

for instance which is quite serious and the malls are worse and I really like the violence but what it also makes for a much narrower street isn't happening other than just get people familiar with a nice wide street easy to get through now not so much cars, bicycles a bunch of others and the bicycle lanes and the sentry devices will make the standard me

one of the first things I do is always but so like I

said I don't know

but I'm thinking if we want to go through this we would need to look at the swap lines or pair or subtract on the streets

the street for wants to wear

I knew what they were doing. I don't know where that or change takes place

Yeah, so it's been a

while if you just want to set the tone a little bit, but we're gonna have For some time for discussion, we only have like five or six slides. So we just kind of make sure that we're talking the same language make sure that you're getting might ask three questions that hopefully we can address some of them before we get to your head. Okay.

Thank you. Week,

we started looking at some of the crash head and safety issues. So you're going to find your data passes to the Michigan State Police right now. You know, they're definitely safety concerns along for over how many years, five years,

but you get to

monitor your progress a lot. So it's been easy. It's still finalizing. But, you know, I just wanted to kind of point out those 70 distribution pass patches, and you can start seeing some trends. So you're going to have more crashes happening on Third Avenue. But still, you know, over 200 crashes fall. So the key issues, you know, unfortunately, one fatal crash. And third, we have all the way up to Costa Rica to point out. But then Firstly, its number of injury and serious injury patches, there are a large number of matches, meaning that vehicles are getting either while they're taking a turn, or as they're moving across. There's also a very high number of psycho crashes, right grants. So it was rare crashes, or remediation are stopping at traffic saving on satellite imagery. And that's also interesting way to bicycle guys on the street for essay crashes on the street as well. So go for it eight respectively. And then you're more than half of all persons are at intersections and a large number, especially on Third Avenue, the second three crashes, they're flying user reports as following aggressive driving, that we're using also a potential mediator that's gonna get back there as well. But in the same way for this, there are ways that you know, both one way doing integrations can address certain types of crash situations. And see and we definitely want to go that traffic process to just go forward. I think folks are for you know, over the cross section, it's like, okay, we recognize that there are some differences in the number of claims and configurations go forwards. Me meeting on Saturday, City of South African sent Nish IV session and move the ball sideways kind of a shift through lanes and cargo bays, depending on the walk, and then your bags and secondary goes down to basically four bays. And then similar, we know that there is a warming section and missing additional parking outside.

Okay, so that's the reason see a lot of textbooks a lot of just kind of write some outline in some ways and see that there are reasons to move to the doing session. But there are also some reasons to actually consider keeping a One Direction project traffic. So, you know, we do see anecdotally across other places where we've done immersion session, in most cases, we've seen a conversion does lower seem to describe a little bit more, you can kind of take aways a little bit people are really just isolated because they're specific lanes and kind of as a road guy effect we've heard that before. And that's kind of a question is that the number of lanes in each direction. You also are kind of reducing a circulation that patients have you ever had a slight irritation. It's like when you kind of have to go into the box, get back to the location that you want to kind of get around a block kind of movement or the city that you're bidirectional child will be able to just kind of have access to a month ago from Virgin America. This is great also just because of that circulation factor. You can also increase the exposure for businesses that don't have to remember why. And then it is kind of like directional travel

in any environment does in some ways make things safer. metric system, a lot of cases, you might reduce a number of ways that SMS across active lanes are rated as 17. And we have opportunities for our gaze stabilization, to just provide better and more promising opportunities. But in some ways, he also introduced safety issues where people may expect a seat looking in their direction for a long time, it's a way for now investigated drivers, additional records and answer conversely, as potential reasons for staying on a no cashmanager. And possibly ever Fortunately, the pavement markings and signage are very low cost, but once this feature was very long corridors who needed to reschedule fabric, and then we'll start looking at the current state offerings that are needed, those get into the 10s, or hundreds of 1000s of configuration in the state. But it's definitely for seed funding for us. There, there's, in cases where you're out here, rows of traffic whelming variation does move more traffic. I agree, but I think these are considered really high on orders, if there is an accident, more passing and understanding. So there is an opportunity to consider even figuring out a section for the substantial protection plays. On the southern end right now, that marker is getting close to being stranded around. There, there is some potential for you know, hours to see a little bit of, you know, affirmation of more graphic work today, but again, it would be for the person posting the hours of the day. And I think just kind of touching on in terms of events, you know, they're they're more opportunities that were perfumers, fewer restrictions for, like, different types of disorders, that term writer patients. And again, it's that same kind of point that we're making about the SKA, stage safety. There's two working parties in terms of price. And safety.

And for some reason, I've made some edits before, but I also just want to add that, you know, buying a suit could be considered a really hyper option, and really depends on what sort of theories in line with edge. And that would definitely be something that we might have for public discussion about as well. But you know, it is kind of meta how to, like reach and figure out a space and don't necessarily data to a purchase, consider by face is there is there room again, in the current configuration, depending on the parking needs are maintained, but it's not necessarily associated with one or the other. But the type of design that we consider 54. Riccardi that was one of the examples. So you're imagining that first of all, it's so this transfer of data to a central track saying something that would be more fitting for me theory should be mindful right at the opposite direction. Practically going forward, looking at this one by game, online industries, in the other direction, you are air fresh out now our main entrance so process so currently, we're working on the labs to consider to make these through a petitioning process that has to be approved by city council. So the process you know, we're gonna get all the texts and we can share the slides later as well for the society. But it will be issued by someone submitting a petition that demonstrates that generally over 70% of property owners are muted or residents along those corridors for its support of version, which is makes it very challenging to again original on section but that does is what we have to have out of this conversation. But I think it's worth mentioning that it could come from any individual web interface at this moment. In a world of associations or collections of associations and acting out on that issue, and then once we receive it that initiates sort of our review process as for the side is the added attractive candidate who will be doing the due diligence of looking at how abstract operations for the operator time permits intervention to be that we are obligated to treat well, and then you know, that study.

Arrive time, and we also make sure that your potential like the outreach, your campaign, or we have a number of meetings that meet the requirements, or your shortages and scenarios to ensure that and fire everyone has this long corridor. But in a case like this, where we know that they're safe, so rather than to see it sold to. And assuming that it will continue to move forward, then we deserved an update for how we can incorporate changes into our program. So crack at it, accommodate your marketing and design changes fairly easily. And mass signals change, people go more often or adults. So we may need to figure out how the current raises funding, there are many factors that are able to share that certainly explore and see how those changes. But again, if you haven't already a pop up yet. You're also going to see an entity everything is recorded as community support that we will be able to record and that should be approved by Council, and ultimately will be consequences. But I hope my hope was experience rather than sitting is not trying to push any sort of free time, services to do needs to be completed during a process. And that's why suddenly saying like, this is your opportunity to tell us what your feelings are at EA, and how he provides the resources and support to enable you to go after industry. Again, there's no question it's already rare that we put these together just so that you have the information. When we just make sure I kind of have this class. Next steps. Yes. Oh, my God.

Hi, can you here? For me, again, I don't have any malicious intent whatsoever. I'm not following the content of this very well, because of every one of the font sizes. I can't read the size. And it's been difficult for the longest one. Why are we looking for the change and part of this new chapter on voice whatever it is, that is not happy for me. So I noticed that your time is valuable and I know that you can't want to make sure that they're all informed about what's going on but somebody that

I appreciate that if I right people have been sad

incredibly clear on how you can go forward.

Especially since this is not being traded. This is that means that as day and only two people or two entities have asked for this. And like I said the font size is small. You don't have the answers to most of the questions.

Sure, I really thought that people were interested in it. I really had feedback from people that they were interested in this. This was never too fresh. Anybody in one way or another, it was all about understanding the process, if that was something people wanted, and understanding the benefits or not benefits. Now, it's not just up to me personally, or any personal person in this room. And I'm not going to drive this entire process through. But I like to know what my options are. I don't like to just be low, because this way is just me. Because this way it is, it's fine. Maybe there is something better. And people have mentioned to me there might be some better than others. Looks like and I don't see it. That's all.

And it would be interesting to know who these

people are, I just shared with you in I think July.

Two people,

I would assume the Goonies he or she is we

talked about to people and other people who have trans people, we're here to try to make that happen. We can know where they're at.

Ready to go here. So I think that's it for explaining today's session. And we'll just pass the mic around and try to answer the question who's gonna go okay.

So I'll just say, I guess our settlement collapsed. And so my question is, so you said 70% of people who have to sign an agreement have to correct it, he said, 70% of people in this case, we're really talking about what residential street, I can count on my fingers, the number of businesses that are on second and third. So like, you know, I guess it's classified as whatever my ministry said, Well, we have some residential streets for the vast majority of life. And so, so we that we 70% of people whose addresses are second and third, yes. Okay. That's a very small number of people. Just to be really clear, and are all thinking about who actually, who actually is a property that is very important to this process. I wasn't trying to say I'm interested in doing whatever will slow down traffic and 70 or so it lives right out there. And who traverse the streets every day, usually by bicycle and tries to cross the streets every day, people are seeing on the streets, I I love segway bridging is the way to do it. I think that you know, having this information in a traffic study makes sense. But these are not highways, these are residential streets where people live there multiple parks on our stretch of second interior where the children play, and you know, we need to do something we need to narrow the screen somehow. So people are kind of feeling you know, drag racing in the middle of the night sometimes

doing donuts, right? You don't

want us in the middle of an intersection that is too wide streets university or that people can you know, donuts in the middle of the intersection. So you know, this might be the solution. I don't know what it is, but I'll just say that I am resting in the neighborhood and I'm on the cylinder

Hello, my name is Michelle and I do outstanding and currently speaking, speaking down learn, while there are references had a copy, sign the contract, but maybe see noun, verb and lost control and damage or damage and it happens all the time. So if this line was like the sole dissolve our tracking is beneficial to more people because that third pass around I've been getting training across the street, the same business people want to see one. And so I really support and one thing is the presentation is very hard to see. If you sign up this is how signal that you email this presentation to people so that they can be a follow up.

Yes, absolutely.

And I apologize, we weren't exactly sure what the screen size and everything would look like. So my name is Oscar Executive Director and Chief writer universe coalition of important people advocating for weight I suppose to go to weigh in and acidulated car school to ministry. Oh, that's

one option. We do or pursue, obviously, on Second and Third Avenue South. Warren was believed to be one way, and there was some resistance, the majority of people agreed to purchase a two way and

I have not heard any activity. After that purchase has taken place cards have slowed

down and issue as long as you're listening to do better on the streets. And those streets were made one way and not the other way, one way because when we was going to just it was about by 75 at the time, and so they want to kind of take those cars off the curb. And so they had a decisive tool, Senator John R. and Rashida who immediately starts ways to try to help are trying to help the 1920s and synastry guys on this, clearly, there's not a lot of congestion around. Like, I wouldn't want to go next to that there's a really good study out of the city of Louisville, they looked at one way and two way, it also found the sensible things that James mentioned that army guys also increase on two way streets versus one way street was fighting good

from home, I know you go to the ranch here in the house, as well,

that's something else to consider too.

Okay, I'm here to go silent on the building between second and third. And the only way that I walk on the side of the street that I live on, you can get in and out of our homes, there's still the app. For right now coming down, there is always somebody speaking on their app, where the dog park is. And using the app as a street, you used to be a police officer getting tickets out. But if you start to play with the second, I got to have to deal with people coming from Third Street now. And I am the one that I have to use to get in and out of my home. And now we will open it up for a second, I'm going to have to deal with traffic both ways they treat our alley as the street, maybe the city sounded about that. But I am against building second two waves is another with Third. Third where I live the subways two ways to add over, you can go north, and you can become a south or an Amex on third. So I can get the to wait one second because it impacts my ability to get in and out. And

so my daughter has got a building up on the sheet right next to the dog park and she gets up to get out. And I believe the reason people go to bed early is because they can't go back. Third there because it turns into a one way, the only way they can do it is like going to the lodge and turning right. And so it technically is to wait there. But it's very short space, because people drive through because they don't want to go off the lodge. They go to the alley to go north. So I'm just saying it's hard to know more if you turn right out of the alley. Because it's a very short time with his two way that it turns into one way and you have to go over and it's just an odd setup. That's all I'm saying. So I think for that I am not an engineer, but I would think that it would cut down on the traffic. See if that happens. That's just my thought. And I'm sorry to do that. I just have to use my stream because you're working in the lab. Okay.

Exams are bad. And that's what I'm telling you on. Down

the alleys between Yeah, well.

I have a restaurant All right, well, we have to really talk about the second internal

third, sound design.

Here you go. That's one reason why the second thing Now

let's get the second woman up and sit back down and we'll be someone

who's willing to grant. You know, maybe

they'll be able to turn down the gentleman 60s to be right now, yes, we will. I made it 35 years, 3634 years old, and we would this time around. We know they go up and down,

if you open up the baby for your time. Thank you. Go ahead.

My name is in Lhasa, balancing between second and third. reminders about

callous indifference.

And seeking in favor of keeping an open mind about ways to slow traffic and occur. Most of us live in a neighborhood the street. I see traffic and the lack of pedestrian friendly crossings might not be the best solution. It might be the best solution we don't know yet. That's just keeping our mind better. But I really look to other cities that have gone to sleep for us. It's one of the sacred Minneapolis effect the city for five years to convert or one way as to what it's finding that that funding is upsetting. There's no funding to go in here. You can't do it. And so I'm I'm and I saw firsthand how you came up with the street became the neighborhoods and rather than across three white people who don't.

So there was just this gentleman, Pat, Laura and Dr. Wolf.

Are northerners as well. In other words, I think it was a doctor that is in addition to having a women's week for our residents. I think it also helpful, especially, I mean, I have my contacts and things like that, in case would be like go up to his house is too close. You know, the thing is, you're saying that only residents on the streets to others. And so today I worked when I was a female advertising and selling clothes along with a third car. So that was LM who either were saying but I think people will go wrong with regardless and go down the route with the company to his children through and it's how would you respond to that I have a night especially a flashlight, and I think it just indicates to us I'm leaving that part I'm going to say hey, I'm gonna do watch out anybody walking especially but also, cars are always throwaway which happens a lot as I can hear that the squealing tires of people speeding up they're going down because they don't want to go around to you know, down the road, take a lap and below second, I think how you deploy it, I'm actually not sure that I knew about it. Because you know, I was I liked the way things are now also, I suspect as you're walking along all the way all the time, and please alwayz because of the workings, if they were to waste it might cut down on that. And the other thing is is there any data to show and determine kastehelmi 700 conversion over to two way before and after in terms of data like accidents because I know like that that data is on Michigan's safe as well a diversity capacity to compile data like little kid but I was you know, I'm gonna read some email to make a case for

everyone, the corner of second imaging department could be yours. And I'm having trouble understanding the speed. You said to be able to see people's feet up and down forward all the time and vote as a presidential area. So we'll see how the two ways kind of set the scene. So not only understand why that

would happen, so

it's not wrong role

as the project manager I personally don't have a good paying habit before and after data exactly. You know, the C says, something I do want to do better beforehand for analysis, but we need to be very sure about it. And we are constantly looking for that. When you have a buyer in multiple ways, the speeds are greater. And so the artists have a version, you're using the number of planes all heading that direction. And are we looking at it? In some cases, make them all at locations where sometimes the waterfall of water so narrow lanes, increase speed, a fewer?

Thank you, thank you. I would like to know what kind of background information you have. Because storing it up here on Third Street, amen. Give me a couple of iterations of one way to ask Do you have any type of supporting evidence that one is preferable to the other? What kind of background information or personal experiences pay that one way? Is that as a two way or vice versa? I'm not understanding something get away from the interest. And we'll get back into that I'm looking at it was the for health meetings, decisions are being made? And if so,

will

they have sorted destruction oil, which is certainly my last week. In fact, we were going for a really tough season coming up with all of the structure itself. So I was just wondering if there's any historical evidence, which is very data that supports the change.

So I saw that just because you might be lots of things to do or don't have, but I just received an anecdote. As far as the process

step one user request from you doesn't mean that you have that set to go guys, that also whether it's a CP server, or what is being asked the information you are typing in to the analysis. So it is safer, it's better

in the SAS,

and say that as soon as

we're ready,

or not based on what you're seeing it runs on baseline condition group safety rule. On and on. You have the kind of the last so you're the next day to say yes or no is gonna change. This is a standard right. Now. Later on, added later on, we have that heavy now. So you can do that analysis of the unit as well. Yeah.

I guess I'll just add that. I think the question was a little bit alike, which is better in one way or two way? I don't, I think it really depends on the street and the conditions and, and being able to have gone through that deeper dive analysis because we never even just looking at those streets, we're gonna look at every intersecting street parallel streets like these categories and move somewhere else. Like we would want to look at this, like, comprehensively. So today, I just don't think we'd be able to say one or the other is better, but both are possible, just this case.

Okay, I just want to talk about one. Yes. That's the second and Seward in the same manner. long runway streets. Dancer favor people speeding all the way down the street. So when you come down the second Boulevard, you go 50 miles an hour, you get all the way up Okay, now, second. And so have you ever considered spouse to slow down track road? To too soon? So I'm saying that please take that into consideration. Okay.

Can Yes, we can look at commission aesthetic

or I love the national basis, which is I thought really shouldn't be an either or there are so many currencies. That I hope you all think about. There are stables, which I think are well known, obviously we have to slow down, but at Worlds wouldn't be doing that job. So that was our radical concern about investments until divisiveness then couldn't be put together with satisfying some street lights. And because he through the five times possible immersion, I have no idea where it is, but my guess is maybe much more expensive than these other schools. My other concern and all the conspiracy theories is that I use along the second to bias is to see causation itself. And to make

up wasn't too much.

I expect businesses that must be on seven individual property values to last, and that people that benefit businesses, not just residence. So I think we have to look at the future ideas of how 17 is going to impact ourselves in partnering and seeing how to other streets issues regarding for residence. So it's not just here now. I would want to know where financial planners are living. And then they asked us to simulation some of those other. And this is

I don't get the point. Yeah. Okay. I just want to say that sounds like you're 14 years in the second third. We've all been drawn to this area, for a lot of reasons. And I'm sure a lot of it has to do with how things have had that have had a plan and have been vetted for a long time. We've all been drawn to this area, and there's negatives, and I just want everybody to stop and think about a quick chain, because it's a change. I had to face change all. But I still feel that there's I mean, I'm still waiting for a business like Bulevar and we're to be up in the private sector. Like a neighbor said that cheating out all the businesses on the streets. Second, third, light on Can I just don't foresee in the area of aerobic building all that fast for this warrantless change. There was so much other things that shouldn't be done. I mean, like just a basic global like the trees nature of this, like science. I mean, if if the general rules or just the general rules are just enforced, I think that record speeds, you physical condition, but it's just a lot of a lot of construction. A lot of infrastructure for a motorcycle tend to hire, so

to speak, and you still have questions

across most teams, I'm gonna try to face you off and take you to hearing

now I'm gonna use the mic, please. That's why we have it, it's okay to use it. Alright.

Sunday person percent of the purchases were mentioned a quarter to market the Western two thirds of like the East Center. What is that quarter? How do you? How do we find the opinion of 70% of that group? Thank you. Good question.

So that's part of the issue of a petition process is it kind of depends on how the petition is being submitted to the city. So, I mean, if it were only three blocks of second avenue that, you know, residents and property owners and say specifically about together, submitted this petition that 70% of that saying, so because the community, the mayor was lost the entire, you know, two miles, three miles of second half of the events that occurred, like 70% of that was kind of whatever our community's kind of packaging needs to submit to the city. And that's why it's really, you know, this is not a city project ever. This is kind of like, the request of the community is how to be free. Okay,

so the people that don't sign such petition, they're considered stones. So it's 100%. So we'd have accurately 70% of those residents within solitary 75%.

All the properties, references.

Literature, as I

understand that, already saying that it's 70% of people who live on spec.

So let's, let's say, all the addresses along the corridor, we need 70% of those addresses to say, yes, we want this 400 submitted. Blocked on each side, there's just no way with an average of seven times two thirds of the address of the sector. That's but we would still have broader communities to see if the general community supported it. But in terms of meeting the requirements of the petition that we submitted to council, that's, that's what they need. That's what they were doing to approve to a new version. It's there's a very cumbersome process, but it's also why the city is pushing it because it means you can be driven. So we're not we're not telling you this is where we want your street to be.

Thank you, people who live on second and beverage and the fact that our whole community

does not make sure that certain dentacoin Instead, I heard him say they're the ones.

So so take a look at it. There's there's sort of two ways that the community is weighing in on their specifically what's the requirements of the petition. So imagine this like list of people that needs to be submitted to council, that's specifically to all together for a second or third and on their, on their address. That's just me the requirements of the of what constantly need to approve or not, but we will be holding 235 community meetings, or once we receive that position in our community. So that's where we can talk to everyone who wants to come to those meetings, and through the advertising specifically to see the neighborhood's effective, but it's apples community. These people that are asking for all of us, you know, in some cases, it's been the mayor comes to the meeting and puts it to a vote or ever going to be an Aberdeen definitive ruling. But the thing that this way, if, if if you want the Philippi to request a conversion to one way to say, you would just need to get signatures from everyone that lives on your blog, and we need to demonstrate that seven people on that blog wants to do recursion. So that's the logic is being applied to any street in the city. This answers the chain, including second third. So it's the same rule that we use for, you know, a smaller residential street is larger, slightly larger corporates as well. So that makes sense.

What could you when you send out the PowerPoint? Could you also send out the city ordinance? So whenever is recording what you're saying? So we can all see that right?

Yes. So we, there's, there's I might be able to speak to this a little bit more. There's the ordinance that gives Council the authority to approve that version. But each who has the authority to set the policy of how that means like, is that accurate? And that's what our director has determined his positioning process is how we would make that recommendation.

All of that, along with our

mind just started. I mean, like, what are you? Oh, sure. So I was getting a deputy director of Department roads works in the streets of Detroit to Detroit, and Prasad ideas are being tracked. But we were invited here to speak and give a little more information on what the two week version process is for stories like that other ethnic, but we don't ever projects we walk away from here tonight could just be back should use the repetition. So yeah, well, it's hard to say.

That, welcome back, as always.

My name is Francisco I've always wanted to add, is inherent in some of this. But one way of thinking about two way streets, at least as far as I'm concerned, as someone who walks in bikes and drives in the neighborhood. second, and third are really three ways. And it's, it's been described in, that implies that you can go bet you're trying to get somewhere fast. And burning the two way, I believe in is a quality of life consideration for the people that live on these adjacent blocks. Because it allows for us to have more access to more parts of the neighborhood in a slower, more deliberative way, we can go left to right, it slows down on traffic and prevents while doesn't prevent, and obviously driving on the street. But for those people who are making those choices in their charges and seeking to go second, or down third, at 6070 miles an hour, as a two way street, they're less likely to do that. And it's more helpful for us as residents to be able to access more of a neighborhood as a slower circulatory system, where we can walk by and drive in a way that's more deliberate and more emergency. And I just wanted to sort of need that extra little dance.

Was there anything else that you are asking questions, and you're seeking? Wonderful work. And I find now second or third week. And I just want to say that if you need consideration of changes to be happening just to include more bindings in general, I think that would help a lot to treat the side of the street and prevent traffic speeding as much as I

just wanted to follow up and today's question about research. And if I could have clarification about the process for getting that research was a little fuzzy to me. You're saying that once the petition is live, that will then trigger the traffic analysis? Yes. And so no decisions would be made by the petition itself. That's a beginning of the process. Right.

And the ultimate decision is from city council. So we provide the recommendation to council on whether we think it would be a wise decision or not, and whether it's supported by the community, but we would we would include the petition as part of that package.

Got it. So if we want to know the traffic analysis, we kind of have to go into the petition.

Yes, although there's there's a certain degree of analysis that we can do outside so I think we're already hearing loud and clear. that people are concerned about safety and speeds. So I think we may go back and just see if we can start collecting some of that data proactively.

Just kind of echoing that the point that was made about the historical The streets were built for a city that had a million more people. There were still before any of us were alive. And I would just offer that I think it's the current residents need to serve streets made for us and our generation. And that includes the people who have been here for 30 or 40 years. Let's clean the streets like neighborhood seats, not passageways for people who don't live.

I will come back. Yeah, hi, nice to see us. I live in a condo on our second offer off within about five years. And I'm not open to the conversion to the city streets. But I do with

most personal connections and see so see in history for me is really important. Because you'll get one

person sign and online, we're minutes away from Grandma's thing. It's like super easy to do it. So that's it, nobody can shoot for us. And I know live are where I live, is pretty plain history from inscrutable. My only concern is our food, consider only bring the low parts of

second branch

writer that report needs right now. Because I know that you guys are very excited that on Third Avenue, right now with this new dossier from one way and then history side. So I'm guessing those were really worked out to see way, there'll be only one only one each way. And that's concerning to me, for a number of reasons. I just did like, you know, seeing as much traffic as we have one going each way. And you know, somebody gets massive on cars, how long traffic, I doubt will cause congestion. So I just want to throw that out there. As most of you know, you throw at it for the purpose of seven thermal fire all of our patients that would have

made you because you're all good.

I agree with all the reasons why I'm saying this is it's good to think that they will not see on the left who may see this. So it doesn't matter that the business and they will come around and said yes, that was possible, low returns. But I think that step process will be bad, because you didn't buy to chill. When you're talking about that having more fat coming from different direction, and the children trying to get across. That's more strength for his child to be a good president here in the city, united, you know that now, if the others have versions and design paths, those businesses, we're talking about an irrelevant area working abstractly for your children across the street, and you have children and on and on school ism. So I think it's that process of gathering scores for the stage. And obviously, because these people do not care, because you're trying to get me on over there. We see my friends. And that's it for me. Okay, so I do understand the loss. And if that wasn't possible before, you get people that will pass from a free play all the way from the use of love. And don't have moments of happiness. But I'm concerned about the children and added to the president. In fact, the coach on both sides number one way in your life, and also the process. In fact, so many of our families, children and their families today. So any changes that come about that maybe backpack or looking at other things in the app, and we can take care of those problems Windows conducts the full speed study them to really take care of that we'll see comes out in September now Google Pay for this as their version has seemed different to what Google pay for the cost of the city. You're not getting you're not getting Yeah. Unless you're no that's it. Wow, that's sad to see the cost started with me. Okay, thank you.

Yeah, we tried to touch on it briefly, but

yes, If you receive a

petition and it gets recommended for approval we tried to budget for it in the in our enrollment programs so it's just worked out we already have a program for restricting history or adding science that we're looking for. But that's for the pavement markings so the markings changing signs traffic to a very different story the cost adds up a lot more because there are only a few signalized intersections on both the quarter road but that's where we have to like see other brands for seeing industry partner and it's funny that he was bringing as well so but again we're not gonna walk away today saying

he did it first

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with some events

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fed a whole Third Avenue this process with the GT park while they don't have right now today to this point in Boston this area was redesigned for neighborhood okay streets block a change to traffic flows by design it is August this year this is what we have

on this holiday but this specific thing was designed to try and make it applicable to everyone the same give me some stop signs and slow this traffic that is the speed of the track that following on unfortunately it's late but

we're here and I'm here to decide is the traffic expert decision I will say that unfortunately I wish stocks and as much as they did in lawsuits across the city and a lot so but we will do our due diligence

so even though that significant drug has its issues as we see what policy oh we need to stop and 1000 Spear guns because this was like the other reason was because I stopped since so

assuming that stops happening to us

the US citizen and as I said we are supposed to be solid citizens

investigations to witnesses switches. So

that's that's quite different.

So that's that's where that classification system really just put a catheter for us in the city. So your busiest time of history the freeway right? And arterial streets that were actually busy arterial streets and employment streets that are with like that little bit less traffic and you basically get after president's classified screen. You didn't do your power box. Unfortunately. Second, third class is sold on purpose. So the way that to program is designed it's only available on the streets we do make some exceptions so like we're here about here tonight on the seats to go around we're going to we're asking every single community to do that at least. So we're gonna kick off to be found and we're in four minutes

My name is Jimmy with this order for dark power I want to say to other people that is in our control because it's much out there here curious and I think you know you have such a wide road people really feel Kcd because particularly in one way because you know, they can sort of see everything we're we have a two way people just would be less comfortable than 5060 miles an hour I understand it's not like a perfect solution. Everybody are always crazy people out there that will do stuff but you know, even when I'm driving the neighborhood I find myself moving too fast on the Senate because it feels so why you know there's parking on each side. By me There's barely people parked on the street so it's really like four or five main street we just have so much space that can be used for other things like an image of the bikeway network and our bikes by the way that the second half of the benefit of town or bike read stuff on hand because it will be nice to have a seamless connection between those and to the point about second sewer which is the intersection I hate. Honestly, I'd be like maybe second to way too big that calmer because instead of people pulling down sewer they can see no nobody's coming on second cause I feel okay one little stop sign a map actually set foot traffic in both directions. And I also can't tell you how many times I've been coming up second particularly about visual theater someone turns the wrong way with the area sometimes these walkways are off parts and you know I think basically the same way just make things more understandable for other people

so you can talk to people are

okay, I went directly work there My first job was ingestion I think that is TCP slow start times mean something else we have always been handles they have no party and it just feels worse and worse and worse are going to try to weigh you know in a written argument Okay, so two years long run go with it and that's okay I guess we'll see. We'll see is just as they do with Java there's a lot of added race room system reporting so just try with zero gravity that could be somewhere in the main okay where people come to the area a new social status to the federal payment now it's finding those access points

Oh shell is for sale out. We're right down the street from one another. And we'll be making a for a two way street we'll be talking so much to destiny we already have art in all sizes to submit for us

to live in the city all my life making your street two way asphalt people now they want to see me see seeing a new online

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petition I had a question about the petition the personal side to make the boundaries do they set the boundaries for the petition They do that because you can say our lot is very just I walk in the city all the time and I walk down here, sections of third have no addresses on the column. It drives me which is nice More than I'll say paddles, do justice,

lots and lots of nouns. So you have loads

of people

making decisions with me.

Which doesn't sound like That's why most of them will be sad. Or anybody at the end of the day and decision, is there anybody that hasn't spoken yet, just rebuild your bank, save the piano and like the people that have spoken yet, cash or opportunity, and then stable for you, sorry. I just want to know if there's something we need to know, to move forward on making decisions. I would like to make sure that you do hear what we're saying about doing whenever traffic studies going to be done before any position goes out. Because there are concerns about speed. I would love to know what was the second or the third walk I've seen so travel quite an ally, I almost got hit on an alley. So many times people go to an opera go through and go around. And it's just ridiculous. I was I was being used at speed bumps in the alleys or something. Some kind of enforcement is being done. But also, I didn't really agree with Dr. Wood will about the stop signs. And I know you said they don't well. But if you're talking about 20 blocks or something like that between Lothrop and New England, it's a long time about some science crazy. Eyes. There's lots of things to look into that really want to know what's the process? Or for how many new excellent was this petition? We do this on our phone? How does that happen? It's

great questions. I think I think I can go on. And let's say that we will conduct some seats, at least at the moment and be able to provide that information to everyone who signed up. I think that's fair access to that data. But we try not to really care about the scale or process. So that was really our whole tendency is to try to at least share what that process should be. And then it's kind of in your hands. So we're proud walking away from that, you know, concerns we've heard out there, what the issues are, and we're going to various the other terms or resources, we have to address the immediate needs. But you know, I think he is interested in talking with your neighbors and going through that sort of petition signature collection process, and we'll share information on to the spy so they can be armed with all kinds of questions that are answered tonight. But yeah, we're now thinking about scale, like pushing. It's really we're here as a resource to try to see a shrinking want to see if we're really headed with this. And going to add, yeah,

I mean, I think it's almost kind of wrap up. So it's gonna be 730.

So seeing any questions. But I think we have one last one here.

We value to load things, experience and perspective. Was she supposed to be here?

No, she would not be here. She was out of town. She's going to send her intern here. Okay. Supposed to be here. And that's all I know. And find out what was going to go on. Here we need to have a meeting in order to just get so

schedule and cost.

Okay, so CFO house.

Did you still have a question? The I just wanted to say one last thing. It's something to think about. And it's just my opinion, but the other neighborhood is playing by the lodge. And I remember and how it's set up now. This area is actually remarkably quiet for these babies major rows. And this has something to do with how the area has been laid out. Now. This is a very quiet area for how watch, traverse just a bit. Yeah.

I miss being around a little if you want to have any kind of awkward discussions all the time. So thank you so much.

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but I just want to let you know if you wanted to talk I was just gonna give her

a big last call ready to go

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that's that's what I'm trying to like I'm trying to like they have

no interest in it right