I don't want to name names, because a couple I'll tell you why. Because some people would not want to share something very personal, I have had issues with some a couple of people that were on the brink of saying, I've been doing this thing for so long, I'm really you know, had it, I haven't gotten a break. And I kind of talked them out of it. I never, I always tell people that, you know, get into radio because it's easy. You find a job you find somebody to fund a program directors that believe in you, someone that will take you to another level, etc. But it's very hard. And right now, I think in the last year or two, I have come across, you know, I think the reality is where we are as a business, there are more people that are, you know, kind of deciding what to do. If you did you ever follow any of the AQ studies, the air talent questionnaires for Jacob says, I have that on the list to discuss, but go ahead. Yeah, those are in my opinion, you know, it's the callate opportunity to really speak up. And I always say, Fred, and I'd go back for too long. I don't want this to be everything that's wrong with the business kind of thing I want it to be this is information is what we're feeling. This is what we're going through. Here are our thoughts. And so they have a voice. And I think he's done a good job of kind of walking that line, but at the same time, making it very honest. Look, I got a call recently about the non compete, non competes going away and people not wanting them. And somebody called me up and asked me if I wanted to participate in an article he was doing. And I said yes and no, yes. Because I'd like to say something but no, because I can see both sides of the aisle on a very popular syndicated show. So you know, we lost somebody a while ago, that worked with us for several years, we took him from nowhere into a really established personality. And so suddenly he's negotiating, it falls apart. I don't want to see him go across the street and start competing against me. And I can see that. On the talent side. I certainly see I don't like when somebody leaves a job, let's say involuntarily. Somebody comes a couple of your budget cuts and you're out. And then all of a sudden, this person is on the beach and can't work in that market. I totally understand the situation there. But no, I mean, I think for things like that. I mean, you certainly. Oh, go back to your question. I'm very good about evading answers on it. Yeah, there are people that I've come across that were working in the wrong place. Okay. I'm sure you've met them. They were just in the wrong station. And getting nowhere, not the right people working with them. And they suddenly went somewhere else and things just happened. But like I say, I do love and I'm sure you do, too. I love when you come across a talent that you just see blossom just turned into this giant star. I remember a conversation many, many years ago, Mark and Brian, who were on the way to, I call them about the station in Los Angeles called Cale Lewis. And I'll never forget, I can't remember it's Mark Brown, one of the two said, Do you really think we'd work in a classic rock for him? Today? No, he's on Chr. And so yeah, I'm very glad, by the way that I said absolutely. And and there are other shows. Somebody came I believe that was originally from Canada. Let me think. Jeff and jer were they in Canada or Detroit? I think Detroit, Detroit, close to Canada and we got them to Chicago and then we got them to San Diego. And that was just a terrific journey to watch, they turned into one of the most recognized and famous shows in San Diego. So when did you start Morning Show boot camp, we began planning for 88. Our first show was in 89, we wanted to put together a, a little weekend thing that prepared people for the big fall book. So my thought was, if we could, you know, convince a couple of dozen talent to be able to come in and do this thing, you know, and we can help grow it and so forth. That it would be a good idea, because at that point, big morning shows really didn't have on top shows, really didn't have their own thing. There were seminars and things designed for talent, you know, general talent, and so forth. And but I really wanted to focus more on the high profile talent. So we started the morning, show the recap, I wanted to make it special. And I borrowed $20,000, to market it and give us a logo and give us a program guide and do whatever. And I'm here to tell you, I've shared the story before we lost $20,000, very first year. And we had about 100, we got about 130 people to show up that your lot of you know people just do something new, something different. No sponsors, but it was strictly new, a lot of people were coming in. And I knew I had lost money. But I kind of read the room. And I just knew it would work and knock on Formica or something. We have not lost money since then. We've never gotten rich off of it. But it's it's a in my, in my opinion, the opinions of others. Thank God. It's a it's a fun event. It's a very energetic, very vibrant. We try to keep people who's leaving, just say how do you you know, how do you if these people don't, they seem so after an energetic and what's the key and really met, I think the key for us has been bringing new people into the event every year. And infusing a young, young young young face of new people, newbies who meet established vets. And then there's that chemistry. And so all these people understand what it's like to be sleepy at four o'clock in the afternoon. And it's been a great, great event. By the way, I'm motivated at the end of my part as I am, I'm very encouraged and usually motivated by what takes place.