Yeah, we're happy. Okay, great. Good. So yeah, we'll be talking about just the situation we're in with Donald Trump. Yeah. Good. You're good to go. I am. All right. So if you could try to keep your responses to about 30 or 40 seconds, I'll do my best. And, and we'll just pause for a few seconds here and then we'll begin. Okay.
Lee Smith, thank you for joining us.
Thanks for having me on today.
Donald Trump has been impeached, twice, indicted four times now and we're expecting him to get a mug shot at a Fulton County jail today. How do you interpret this moment in American history?
Well, it's it's of course, very dark moment. And they're trying to look it's part of a longer campaign of demoralization and desecration. And this started you know, I mean, this this started with Russia gate and we've seen certain highlights, it went through the the George Floyd riots. So it's important to understand, it's not just about Donald Trump, it's an attack on at least half the country, given it's an attack on our history, our traditions, our mores, our heroes, our stories, even our anthem, anthems and holidays. This is a part of that campaign of desecration and demoralization.
How do you think future generations will look back at this time?
I think the look back that this is this was this was the heart of a pathological era. The people who are in charge of the country, the ruling party are pathological, which will explain many things to them, it will explain their obsession with the Chinese Communist Party, we'll explain why they took so much money, why they were in business with the Chinese Communist Party, why our political, corporate and cultural and media elites were all in business with them. It will explain why they went after the President of the United States where they weaponize the justice system, because these are pathological people, and, and they're very sick, and they're very damaged. And this was part of their program to turn it into a one party security state, leaning towards totalitarianism. That is absolutely how future generations will understand this present moment.
Talk to us more about how we got here in the first place.
We got here through a I mean, let's stick on the theme of pathology we got here with a pathological regime and we should have been understanding we should have been able to hear we should have been able to discern certain things that were said very clearly, we should have understood certain inversions of language and certain inversions of logic. And I think, look, I mean, I'm certainly not a proponent or an advocate of corruption. But corruption is always going to be a part of, of democratic politics, both on the left and on the right. But what we saw with the rise of Barack Obama was something very different. And everyone knew it at the time, when they saw Barack Obama in his campaign, the children's singing songs like he was dear leader from North Korea, again, the inversions of language, the inversions of logic, the open lies to people, and we have to accept the fact we have to acknowledge reality that it was the federal law enforcement authorities under the direction of Barack Obama in 2016. That opened up an unlawful investigation of Donald Trump and the Trump campaign. And it was Obama same spy chiefs, at the behest of Barack Obama, who continued to keep Russia gate as an instrument against Donald Trump. What kind of person does that not not not simply a former president of the United States, but what kind of human being weaponized as a lie that sinister, and that dark to accuse his successor of being a Russian agent, and we see the results, the United States is divided now, and large parts of the country have been driven absolutely mad by this pathological regime.
All right, Lee Smith, author of the plot against the President, thank you very much. Thank you. Great, wonderful. Yeah, I was hoping to kind of open it up, you know, everyone's talking about all the details. But
um, yeah, no, thanks. I mean, you know that that's how I see it. And that's kind of been that's how I've been describing it the last couple of months. I mean, you look at this, and like, what are they doing? Because everyone's saying, everyone's saying, This is crazy. And so I'm saying, You know what, stick with that, because you're right. It's crazy, because these are crazy people. So give yourself some credit for recognizing how crazy it is. This is really being done by crazy people. Right. Well, thanks for inviting me on today. I appreciate it.