Yeah, that's real interesting kind of aspect. Well, there's another aspect of imaginative empathy. Is that we can feel into any role and perspective. And you know, Meryl Streep talks about this, right? It's like, is, I thought a lot about the power of empathy in my work. It's the current, the current that connects me in my actual pulse of fictional character in a made up story allows me to feel, pretend feeling sorrows and imagined pain. So she steps into the role of, you know, Margaret Thatcher, or, you know, Julia Child, like, you know, in a in a big way, right? I mean, she just totally embodies that and and imagines herself being that person and acting. And she, you know, does probably all kinds of studies about the person's quirks and and personality that really, you know, take on that person, that personality so, and that's different than, you know, then again, the the basic empathy, and this is kind of like an unlimited so let's imagine, like, here's imaginative empathy. Like, now let's have an empathy circle, right with the person taking on all the different roles. So it's two layers of empathy where you know the speaker, Julia Child could be speaking to the imagine to Meryl Streep, the actor you know, as Margaret Thatcher, and be actively listening. And these are all four different characters that she has. So this aspect of imagination is, like huge, how you can kind of take on roles. And, you know, we do that in the empathy circle facilitator training, we right, there's four sessions, but we had a fifth session to introduce conflict mediation, or maybe I'll talk about that later, but I think it's later in the presentation. So anyway, here's one role. So you can just kind of, you know, think about these multiple layers of but you can also imagine yourself being an animal, right? You can have an empathy circle, like, oh, you're a tiger, you're a, you know, a cow, you know, you're a, you know, whatever, yeah, koala, koala, yeah. And then you can speak, you know, from those positions, and you can do it at one layer, and then the second layer, you can actually do an active listening. So you're actually doing kind of two levels of empathy. And again, you know, you can imagine yourself being a, you know, fruit. So anything you kind of imagine yourself being yourself. Off in the future. I think that's like imaginative empathy as well. So it's this whole aspect of imagination that I see it a lot in the literature, you know, like saying that, Oh, in, you know, cognitive empathy, you're imagining yourself in some role. But I think calling it imaginative empathy is kind of sexier, you know, it's like people would be more interested in imaginative empathy than, you know, calling it cognitive empathy.