lot of people tackle the precepts in the spirit of renunciation of I know that's how I did it, certainly at first. With with various habits, I first with with smoking, I smoked for a while and quit and went back and quit and went back. And finally, I just said, Okay, I'm gonna do it. And I took a vow, I vowed to condone, I will never smoke again. And so far, so good. You know, that was a long time ago. Sometimes Sometimes that frontal approach can work, but often not so great. Often not so great. And, and especially I'm thinking about people trying to say renounce alcohol or drugs. The reason why the 12 step programs seem to work better than simple renunciation. I quit once, before I got into a I quit drinking for three years. I just, I had really gone off the rails done something I deeply regretted. And I told my wife not going to drink again for a long, long time. And I didn't, but I I eventually went back thinking that now I could probably do it much more skillfully. I'd be better at it. And I was for almost a year. And then and then I had to get serious. But I want to read something that Anthony de Mello said about renunciation the sort of frontal attack. He says, anytime you're practicing renunciation, you're deluded about that. You're deluded? What are you renouncing? Anytime you renounce something, you are tied forever to the thing you were announced. There's a guru in India who says, Every time a prostitute comes to me, she's talking about nothing but God. She says, I'm sick of this life that I'm living, I want God. But every time a priest comes to me, he's talking about nothing but sex. When you announce something, you're stuck to it forever. When you fight something, you're tied to it forever. As long as you're fighting it, you're giving it power. You give it as much power as you're using to fight it. This includes communism and everything else. So you must receive your demons. Because when you fight them, you empower them. It's nobody ever told you this. When you are not something you're tied to it. The only way to get out of this is to see through it. Don't renounce it, see through it. Understand his true value. And you won't need to renounce it, it will just drop from your hands. But of course, if you don't see that, if you're hypnotized into thinking that you won't be happy without this, that or the other thing, you're stuck. What we need to do for you is not what so called to spirituality attempts to do, namely to get you to make sacrifices to renounce things. That's useless. You're still asleep. What you need what We need to do is to help you understand, understand, understand, if you understood you'd simply drop the desire for it. This is another way of saying, If you woke up, you'd simply drop the desire for it. And we do wake up, sometimes in little ways, sometimes in big ways. Something that seemed essential into habits hooks into us, becomes lighter and drops away. Roshi Kapleau used to say, to people who were considering becoming vegetarian, don't give up meat, let meat give you up.