DHC, Board of Commissioners, part 2 (missed 30 min after return from closed session)
3:23PM Jun 27, 2024
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determination. First of all, send a maintenance check out to check the appliance, make sure it's working. If it's not working, they will do the repairs if they fold their repairs, if they're not, they will notify the manager who will say either recommend a contractor to come out while recommend replacement. And in this particular case, was nothing wrong with the oven, but we replaced it anyway. And I could explain what was going on with that if you want to know what but but there was nothing wrong. And then finally, when I look back at the results of some of this, what our average satisfaction rate is from all of our restaurants at Garden View specifically we average over 80% satisfaction each month. Right? So, so it's a range they can rate between the basically one in 10. Right how well we did so 80% indicates that most of our residents average service request or service performance, eight out of 10 or higher, right? That's in terms of timeliness, quality, professionalism, all of those things,
I say and those that do respond is that I'm total less than
those that do respond. That's because most of the restaurants right on average. I don't know the response rate. It's not it's not 100% For sure, but I don't know I don't have the exact number for the response report, but you get that for you. And then finally, in terms of our maintenance performance. I think that if you look back or react scores, although that's probably not a great indicator, but our re exports are always high. Right? Our reaction scores carry a lot of weight in terms of average reaction throughout the entire portfolio. So I say that to say that, you know, when HUD comes out to look at what we do, they're verifying in fact we're maintaining these properties at a highly satisfactory rate. Missed up to state agency when they come out. They're very satisfied with what we perform, and even the city of Detroit. In fact, I have a letter from one of the city council members for that district who would indicate that they in fact, are very supportive and very satisfied. With level of working professionals that we perform from a maintenance standpoint. And I have those letters from the city councilman if people want to see them. The next issue I think that was raised was dark prevention or eviction prevention, and I don't want to spend a whole lot of time but I take this part very seriously. I got in this business of property management as a former section eight tenant. before two years ago, I lived when I was going to college, I lived in a section eight community raising my children with my wife. And I wanted to make sure that that community was going to be managed in a way that my kids were safe and that the property was something we desired to be in. So as a section eight resident, I got involved in the management. Few years go by and I ended up owning a management company. Right that's, I didn't I never went never woke up and said I want to be a property manager. I got here because I was living in a section eight. And I don't lose sight of that. Because all of my policies and my company all the things that we do are from that perspective, right. So when I build things or do things, it's always with the residents first in mind. And and I think again, the letter from the City Council will indicate that that's in fact what he's experienced as well. But let me just explain the non payment or the eviction process and what we do and we do it a little differently than I think most others do. So one of the things I've learned over my nearly 40 years now is that when you give residents like payment plans or or opportunities to extend their payment process, right? Most often that's less compassionate than being just strict, unbiased. I'll follow the rules and do it this way. Because if you start to lead residents into the belief that their rent is not as important as say, the car payment or other things and they have all of these conflicting needs, right? They get themselves into a position where they're so far delinquent that they can't get caught up unless they get some emergency help. Or assistance. So what I've learned is that if we do everything the way we're supposed to do it, right, so the rents due on the first and let them know the letters to them first. If they don't pay by the sixth, then we send them a seven day notice. If they don't pay by the 15th it goes to the attorney to be filed in court. And then the court case gets scheduled whenever the courts decide to schedule. So that's the typical way to process this. And if you don't deviate from that, that all the residents know that you're not going to deviate from them. Right? And so they know what to expect. And so our delinquency and our vacancy and our turnover rates, because we follow that so strictly are lower than most any other company around and I can I can attest to that. But we do something else. Right. So in 2009 I founded my own nonprofit foundation. And the purpose of that foundation was to help low income residents learn to become less dependent on subsidies, more selfish, more self find, and, and so what we do on every community that we manage is my nonprofit goes around and finds all the local support agencies who have funds for emergencies or any options for them. But for funds for emergencies, we have print on the back of their seven day notice that they get a list of every agency that will provide you with assistance, phone numbers, contact individuals, the whole nine yards, and it's committee specific. Right so we go out and find wherever they can come up with money to help pay their rent. So while at the same time that we're being strict if you will, in terms of the payment process, the rent payment process. We're also on our on our nonprofit communities poker site, trying to figure out a way to help them not be affected. I'm in the business of housing people. I'm not in the I'm not in the eviction business, right. So to me, the lower we can get our turnover rates the more that the children who live our communities don't have to go to different schools because they get evicted. The the health implications of this mean there are so many implications of evictions that you have to I feel you have to try to do everything you can to prevent it, but at the same time, you've got to operate these communities. So that they can pay their bills and continue to function. And I think I found the balance to do all right. Okay, so lastly, and you guys can ask questions as you want the capital funds in the bank. I think that's what you're asking for. What so
when we're looking at these capital funds in funding from rad, this is not a case where the funds are going to help somebody or some entity particularly right, they're going into the project. So when you look at and I think there's a lot of probably three to five different details here, when you're looking at the funds that are needed to keep to maintain these properties over a 20 year period, compared to the funds that are being available. But there's a shortfall and there always is a shortfall. So you never go out later and find money capital transactions, tax credits, loans, whatever you have to do to try to figure out how to keep these properties preserved. When we're talking about using the capital fund portion for the RAD conversion, we're talking about making sure that the reserves for future replacements are properly funded. Right so that we can maintain these properties over the long haul maintain the units because everything I've just said to you prior to this starts to fall apart if I can't maintain these properties, if I don't have the funds to provide the appliances or to provide the windows or roofing or all those things, things start to get really bad, right and then the complaints really start to mount so. So my only point to this is that what I what I'm pushing for in terms of the RAD conversion and the and the use of the capital funds going towards a reserve account, additional reserve funding. As always, I'm sure that we're maintaining these properties at a level that we've started we've been maintaining that we have proven we've done maintaining so far. If there's any questions,
so we talk about capital.
So you're looking to invest another $10.7 million over the next 20 years into the garden real estate. And within the next five years, we're on page 76 Because this was an important schedule that we went you know, we made sure that was included even last year when he approved the next level for them to progress to the ramp process because there's several different levels that have requires, but you're really the biggest of that 10 almost $11 million dollars is interior work, which is 4.4. And then the next is he didn't include lien and cabinets and appliances. And when we look at the five years out from now, to say 2020 We're getting to the May of 2028. They're looking to spend roughly around under $4 million of that $10 million for the schedule, that's an unpaid 76
interest so the actual that schedule is done is prepared by third party capital. Needs Assessment. That's we have to use that provide hard with what we estimate, find immediate ID. So the answer to your question really is yes. What we need to be able to do is to meet that schedule, right. Granted some things may not fall into your before they make maybe maybe good enough to slip into year five or six. So it's not necessarily that's exactly what's going to be spent each of those years but we should be prepared to spend that and recognize that that's going to be needed for those projects at that
tariffs you see rose I was wondering if you were going to say anything or add an
eye I'll wait to see if there's additional questions. I don't want to be verbose.
missioners do have a question. Yeah. Well, in fact the beats that you manage,
I have a lot of property management
in from Northstars perspective as the owner, Northstar manages its own properties in some locations and Premier. We've used them anytime we've been in Michigan, Michigan because they are a much better manager than than we are. And I would definitely encourage any of you that would like to come visit garden view. You know, North Star and DHCP has really done some incredible work out there. And we would love to you know host you at any time. Our goal though, is to make sure that it stays a viable and prominent residential community into the future.
Any other questions, concerns from commissioners?
Thank you approach questions for staff but soon we'll move it and then we'll do the discussion that I already wanted. Yeah. Okay.
What's that motion?
Yes, I'm trying to get back to the resolution.
We're going to use for three I'm
going to move to approve through two for
support or been properly moved and seconded that we approve resolution 3243 In Aaron for discussion.
You know, I like to like restate my understanding. So this is a property where we own the brown will get a long term ground lease. Norstar owns premier manages. We have voucher holders and a portion of the units now
we have public housing.
Public housing, that's where I always get tripped up there OC or ACC Yes. Okay.
How many we have in an eight out of the 636 away? Awful
lighting out there.
Okay, all right. So it's mixed income deal, Scott. It has a section eight voucher from Mitch Patrick was fired for No, no, no. They're all
just public housing market and tax.
Okay, so no other rental assistance other than basics.
Usually sorry, occasionally tenants do come that have mine without
the capital needs assessments say that we are underfunded
Yes.
You're not trying to do a rad conversion like we're doing at Parkside right now because you don't think it can absorb that capital right now but you will need to in the future are like why are we doing this like touching your life period. Why the lead
guard review phase one, it will be coming out of compliance. We were just debating whether that is October or it's next October but very soon. So it's not actually eligible yet to be re syndicated. RP perspective is that probably the phases and if you look at kind of the history of what has happened, phase one to A to B to C came very quickly together. So in talking with the owners, my guess is as as Irene just stated, you know what really probably will happen is there'll be a recapitalization probably my guess is three to five years from now, where you know, the first three four phases will be
get a critical mass and it's 9% Exactly.
So in the other kind of upside to doing it now is a straight conversion is a lot less complicated than actually what you're looking to do. I think at Parkside because this is a straight conversion just you know, proving out to HUD that we can actually do the conversion and so that's why we're seeking to do a straight conversion now to recoup some reserves. So then when we're ready, because if you look at the overall needs of 20 years versus even your capital dollars, you know, assuming that we go forward threat, we still have a gap. So the idea is to get prepared, and then, you know, do a grouping and then potentially, you know, because baseline just came, you know, just stabilized three years ago, so it's going to be a while till it's ready to go.
Okay. So on a typical idea, we have three internal impacts to consider, right. So there's the loss of the capital subsidy, which you outlined here is about 5% of our total allocations, and we're just lose that. There's typically the loss of the operating subsidy, right? Yes, I'm a little confused on where how are we ended up hold on that or not?
Yes. So what in the agreement with Angelo chime in the day the deal agrees to pay annually DSC $213,000. So annual Yeah,
and that's actually more than what we receive in our fees now for the ACB the
administration fees. Okay, on the ACC. Okay. Okay. So we're so we're losing on the capital. We're breaking even on the operating,
but we won't have to expend any capital.
For those funds coming in. We're still we get about $3.5 million in both of those funds. And we're expending 1.5 million, that as well as you know, our human resources. So we still would say that at least we weren't spending that amount of money we still be will be lower in the hope was 700,000. But we will not be at any administration or any responsibilities for those views at all. And then that extra money that's going to go to the project, it's going to go for the benefit of the project and the benefit of the residents.
And when she say 700 is offset with just the capital ones but currently, we don't move capital like right in the next year. It will be a three to five year period, so we'll still be manholes. So we get about 11 to 12 million for the whole entire portfolio divided by the total number of units. That's how they got to the six spot roughly 600,000 that we will be losing but we won't have to upgrade those 308 units. Yeah, well for and I thought the physical needs was about 3 million for we only have like 10 in here, you know, replace me in
about 20 years about 30 will only
have this is the first ACC back conversion that we have done right having the previous ones we've been using the public housing
Yeah. Now we're going over to platic based rental assistance.
How does that look operation for us when
we did that? So really now exactly what's the
fee that we were no good you stand up it was good to hear hear you.
Sorry. We don't have to do anything except for we received the X the additional fee that Northstar we're seeing
other in medicine swimmers are on the income targeting side when we flip I know it's fix our 50% Ami and below right 50s and 30s but how does that match up with current income targeting?
It will be identical to one for one. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
So, I think I'm gonna ask the question again. Why are we doing this right now if there's no benefit to residents, it's largely a wash for us. Like
let's just say there is a benefit residents they will be getting the additional operating and capital funds will go to that project. As opposed to coming to DC those residents will benefit from it.
This is about like we spend the money out of places because we have such a big hole we're basically forcing ourselves to spend the money.
humanization right. That no word that we talked for humanization is really easy generalization. I say work with Well, that was my point. But it's really putting the money right back into that those 208 units or RDC residents. The difference now in the future is that we don't map we don't have to oversee it. We don't have to process payments and go through. When we look at our pH. Our public housing portfolio was down 308 But we have agreements and we're going to monitor can make sure what Bob and Northstar say is going to happen will happen.
Absolutely. Was here so I'm sorry. Look like Commissioner Williams. I was thinking that the timeframe. 20 years. I'm sorry. What time frame so
if they can put an application what I mean they can put it in my financing plan the next one by November to be able to process this process to be completed first quarter 2025.
So when you said time of when you asking the timeframe for when, what is your timeframe question?
How long would it take if we approved this
before the resin is filled as we've experienced? So that's what my question was within the first five years. What are you going to do with that $10.7 million that you're going to refinance? Are you going to put the 4 million that's out you know outlaid and pay 76. Or
the plan the plan will be to to bank the reserves to where we can get to a reset indication of whether phase one to A to B to C, because right now we need the benefit of tax credits. We're not eligible Intel, either. I apologize. I just don't know if it's October or January of 2025. So we will be banking reserves because we don't have quite enough now to do a do a re syndication, raise all the dollars necessary to do the first you know 234 phases. We do have an immediate issue that we need to resolve I think we notify to two years ago with our failing windows at phases one to A to B to C failing is the wrong really the wrong term.
I'd have to apologize for the familiar. Additionally
it was a it was 1,000,003 in tooth out two
years ago dollars we missed identify, right
they did and they just came out again for their annual in last week and said hey, what's the status of red? We agreed with them that it made sense that when there was a recapitalisation, that would be the time, but their question now is okay, it's been two years now what what's the status? You know, we need to know what the plan is here.
If I can just add a little bit. So when she's talking about the first few phases in terms of what happens in capital funds for those phases, because each one has a phase, separate property, so it's got it gets filtered down and broken up by phase. So the later phases are the ones that can't be recapitalized for several more years, but reserves today to answer the question, why are we doing this today? Right? It's because those phases, if you look at the projected needs for those phases, coming up in the next five to 10 years before we can do anything, we're not going to have enough money to fund those. So we have to be able to we have to be able to fund those as they need them in the early phase because it's so close recapitalization is probably don't we probably don't have to unless Mr. Money unless Mr. comes down and says you got to you got to spend a million dollars that's really the phase one to a to b are the ones where Mr. could really throw the hammer at us. I've been able to forestall them on the promise that we're doing all this stuff but but the rest of it in terms of use of reserves, it's all it's going to probably line up very close to what those projections are on Catherine's assessment. I have a really
quick question. So before you have to do any of the recapitalisation between now in this three years, what is the benefit for the residents between now and again.
So, in order to make sure that these properties are being maintained, and that the capital needs that was going to be coming up, as you can get that buy in there are being addressed, we have to be able to fund those otherwise. Otherwise, you know, the rents are going to start leaking or whatever's going to happen. That's going to cause us to expand. Our operations are not gonna be able to support all of the capital needs as they come due. Right. So so what we want to do is make sure that the residents, their units are being maintained, the buildings are being maintained on the sites being maintained. Everything's got to be marketable, otherwise, we just come something that blends into the rest of that neighborhood.
So the addition of the operating fund the capital funds is going to help you to be more proactive and
the other thing which was I know that it doesn't, it's not related to the physical aspects of garden view. But was hugely popular as we acquired resident meetings. Last year and the year before over a period of about, Gosh, I think seven months, hugely popular. As you probably know, rad allows the ability for formerly public housing residents to jump the queue as far as the waiting list related to choice mobility vouchers. So that was a very big, huge, you know, whether people really do it or not, that was a very, when we did if you look to the comments that we you know, that we we shared, I think actually a couple of your staff members were at at least two of the meetings. Yeah. That was a very popular aspect of what RAD is popular with residents.
We promised that we would maintain the buildings. Yeah.
So I think this has nothing particularly to guard set the position or I think I'm just gonna say out loud, all objects. So we are doing is that isn't forcing ourselves to invest in our properties that I would not be at the bottom 25 percentile because we're trying to prevent it from sinking down and somewhat taking your hands off of it. But that is meaning that we are ultimately choosing probably allow our bottom 25 percentile to sink lower because we are going to have less money. We're just no let's not argue. But we do not have enough money to maintain our properties period.
So we are picking
winners and losers here to some degree. Inadvertently, I totally get the logic I understand why that's what we're doing. But like this is like the worst part about this job is we are choosing a month a bunch of very bad options. Now our options are all bad options. Well, next month they'll be but to do that, we're ultimately making choices because we don't have enough money. So I want to make sure like I can probably get behind this play. I'm like we have to preserve the things that are not an inhabitable at this point. The way that we let Parkside correct was we can't have that but we are future Kiona eras that we are going to have to make another choice where we have something really bad happened and we are not going to have the money to fix it the way that we should, because we may not just this choice, but other choices prior to because we eroded our capital.
Right? And from a risk perspective what we're trying to do, that's why partnering with a company they helped us the right way apply for grants so that we can put out higher probability so when we get those grant funds, we can work on this the squeaky wheel right, the more squeaky wheels that we have, and also what we have coming in, we can do things a lot faster. That's that's hopefully the risk mitigation. applying for grants you just heard me say 7 million we're looking at other grants as well. What was the 7 million on Capital One stands in front of a Microsoft do like now like in the next couple of weeks, but we also working on another grant recommend right now we're trying to bring money in we can't, you know, we have to we have to make a million and physical needs, right. But if we can get grant money to help us with these capitals, and that can mean towards some of you know the risk that we're taking now. Here that's the thought process from a business perspective. I get it. Yeah, but it may not you know, we're gonna try and try.
I'm sorry in your outfit. I mean, but what you're doing looking at RAD I mean, you're you're taking the best stuff that you can't by leveraging private, you know, investment, you know, whether it's at Garden View, you know, like you say you're less needy properties, but I mean, it's a bold step to take rad I mean, you know, that's that's your answer, at least in my opinion, in the meantime,
and in between time because the wrap process takes a long time, because of the audacious regulations that we have to go through to protect our residents, which is the right thing. It's not like we can do it in 12 months. So in the meantime, we have to do something within the next five years to make sure our resident experiences there so that when we get to them and where, you know, it should just be from I left from okay to pay. This is okay, versus I left them oh my god. To this is okay, so we're trying to make the resident experience more human, knowledgeable. And this
is a good time about the first couple years now, right? Like there are two models of public housing that read, they read everything out and they shrink down to a water administration unit, and that market never generates another 30% ami. Unit ever again. Unless there's an incremental increase in housing choice vouchers. It does not happen you're so we're city of almost we're sitting at 35% poverty. They only can afford 3% units and if you look at other housing Commission's were found out their production of 3% Ami units went from somewhere between five and 8% of the affordable units annually to zero. The only ones who have been successful which I can count on one hand, use red to do jayvees To refill their central office to then cross subsidize into the production of 30% units and foam in the country. have done it I don't like crap because housing Commission's get screwed. Almost always. We are not going to go down this path of getting screwed as long as I'm on board. And I don't think that's what you're trying to do here. But we have so many units in our portfolio that are in much worse condition than almost anything. And we are making a choice when we do this to ultimately have to do with less. So it is probably the right thing to do here. But I don't want to pretend like this is a good thing necessarily. It's just like the less bad and I do want her to do to not become Parkside. So it is really hard because we're gonna have worse but it's so much fun. I'm parks everything we didn't have to if we had gotten ahead of it. I do hate the Groundlings model hate it, but this is the world that we're in. So I don't I will not repeat that. But this is the deal that we have today. So I'm not mad at them. That was a decision made previously. But every time we go through these route approvals, epic really convinced that we are on a path even if we have to make a short term sacrifice. If we're preventing a problem, we want the housing units preserved, but that we are on a path to to being a housing commission that can still produce 30% Ami units into the market, be they with vouchers, be they with public housing ownership, do they have the central office non public housing ownership, I don't care. We get a lot of people that need very low income rents. So that is our job and our job along with the only people who will do. So that's my like, pet dog.
Okay, so I work with Oreos, too. We work with an agency housing authority in Maryland. And what they did was they're on a path to converting all of their portfolio wrath, but they have decided that they want to be a Housing Development Authority, and they have become the most prominent developer of affordable housing in their entire community. And so they're building and creating more affordable housing at the 30% level. It they've gotten to the point where if you want to do that, as a private developer, if you want to go into their towns Frederick, Maryland, if you want to go into their town, and you want to do it low income housing deal you almost have to ask the housing authority to partner with you. Because the state has pretty much decided they're not going to give private developers the opportunity or as much of an opportunity if you don't have the Housing Authority, right. So the Housing Authority is bringing all kinds of tools to the table. One of what you guys have to do just never used it yet. And that is under RAD conversion. Housing Authorities or housing conditions qualify for complete tax exemption of their properties, right. So as a private developer, we're paying city taxes and all that. But the Housing Commission actually could bring to the table for developers full tax exemption on the properties which reduces the costs of each property helps help support additional sources of funds, and those kinds of things. You guys could do that as a housing development agency. You don't because you haven't, you haven't really got into this area. Yeah, right. But but you have that opportunity to do that. Well, if you if you have that one tool, I can almost assure you that all the private developers are going to want to come to you as partners to say, hey, we really need you because this is what we really want to get. Right. That's one just one small piece. So well, you know, maybe some agencies have had bad experiences with rad. That's probably because of bad developers who didn't take the time to figure it out. But I personally believe that rad can help you achieve everything you're looking to achieve. But you got to kind of think differently in terms of you know, is it really here to support the central office or we're here to support residents and create more affordable housing? You're not gonna be able to do that under your current funding. You'd have to you'd have to be going to change appointment. That's just my quantification
thing. Thank you for that, Mr. Beale. We are running up against the noon hour. We still have a few other agenda items, commissioners. Is that are there any other questions or discussion pertinent to making a decision on resolution 3243? Seeing none we have a motion to approve resolution 343 All those in favor? Bowsers. Which one you said I to Yes. And you're saying I have to know what you want is your eye to know. So there are three yeses and one no motion carries. Thank you for that. Please make sure the minutes make note of that. Resolution 32433244. Thank you to your vote.
You're really appreciated as Williams. Oh, yes.
Thank you. Thank you. This is the approval to enter into a contract with the allen group to provide your own data services. Number Number three to four for our asking that the condition allow us allow GHC to enter into a contract with reality world assists with general legal services on an annual basis on the island group does have experience in some areas of law that are not necessarily we need supplemented this time and right now with the assurance of staff, their their expertise is necessary sauce my understanding that they are helping with the restructuring of the organization. They do have experience in real estate and acquisition services above and beyond what our current legal landscape is not above and beyond but some things that are our Lightsey Tax Credit Experts do not necessarily do and they also provide services by tax credits. Though we don't. At this point, we're not at the issue with them but the general legal services they're very able to assist me with some of the the internal everyday day to day issues that we have. So we're asking for a an amount they expended for the first two years at $250,000 Each and if there is an option that we decide to go forth with a third year that there will be a a one year option of $100,000.
Well heard from miscellaneous pertaining to resolution three to four four.
What's your pleasure commissioners? And
Miss Williams? Yes. Would you support the motion so we can open for discussion. It's been properly moved and seconded that we approve resolution 3244. And so my obviously this is a result of the resignation of our general counsel. And so now we need legal support because that grant was part
of the years but it was put in the hopper prior to her leaving. It's not uncommon for us to have general legal services outside services in case there is something that comes up that we can because of costs and for what we do and how busy we are that we need somebody to support us on the outside. They supplement the services that our department provides.
Okay. And then in addition to that, you know, question becomes of that money. How does this compare to our our, our budgeted approved legal expenses is this in line? Yes. I frankly I've been impressed with Mr. Allen thus far in in the work that he has been doing. Sounds like you as the interim CEO, oh, you're getting the quality service you when the rest of the staff is getting good quality service and advisement from him.
Yes.
Any questions from the other Commissioners and they'll cyber stepped out. But he indicated he didn't have any questions or concerns beforehand. So seeing that all those in favor?
Yes. Any opposed?
Motion carries. Next resolution three to four five. Again, Miss Williams.
Yes, we're asking that the Commission approve a contract was telling toma to provide us with employment and labor law services. Keller toma is a what we call a true top law firm in their area of expertise is labor and employment law. They are currently on staff with us now and I don't know if it has expired but it's getting close to expiration. So based upon what they have built in the past, we are asking that those services are extended. They're currently now working on on our labor negotiations with our firms. They've also provided us with other legal services in reference to some employment matters with our non union employees. They've been working with the agencies since I believe 2004 2005 Yeah, 2000 think 2005 2006 So they've been around for a long time. And they've had several contracts with us. They have provided us with stellar legal services in this area. They have helped us put together a personnel manual at an early point during the net the conception or but during the beginning stages of the DHCP after the new DHCP after separated from the city. So we're asking that the Commission consider providing them with a renewal of their contract at $100 $100,000 per year. With an extension option of 100 $200,000 in a year. And this will probably this will go into effect after the fact that they are working under now. expires.
Thank you, Miss Williams.
Question. What shall we do a resolution 3245. Can we move to a brief before but no discussion? I'm sorry. Can I ask my question now I believe typically we we entertain a motion first and then voice
I'm making too many motion. So this
area we're not here
to discuss the board.
It's been motion seconded that we approve resolution 3245 open for discussion.
My question is how does this fit into the budget? And and does this does it fit into the budget of the counterweight or is it going to change the financial situation?
It's not going to change. I'm sorry. It's not going to change the budget. It's already been implemented into our budget. For the one they approved last month.
Mr. de minimis Irene services I mean 20 years is nearly 20 years is a long time. So there's a lot of history there. Services have still been stellar expending expectations.
Whether they're good, great.
It's our budget ends on July one right
or June 30. Yeah. Yeah.
So what do we have? That's not very much time between now and then? No. So these, this is for the following. Yes. Okay.
Thank you.
Excellent. What's happening here is that money is volume. These are two firms that we solicited what we put out an RFP for legal services, and these are the two firms that responded. So the money has been available there if some other firms have responded they would have also been considered in the process, but it only would have been up to the money to fund money that has been budgeted in for outside legal services. And
I have another question. Are there other opportunities that we would have to expand the budget to expand the funding that we have to do do something that he maybe hadn't anticipated? When we originally
so the answer is yes. However, we do expect putting another RFP out maybe just specifically for development, legal services, and Tron is deploy and then we do have legal counsel on from an external there as well. So we're gonna have to put out another RFP more, I believe development because we have a lot of stuff coming down the pipeline, and in order to meet but I scheduled that we gave to the board. We got Gardenview 200, which is the AMI the ad that Aaron talked about that we were charged to go and make sure in our portfolio we have existing or, you know, properties in order to fund
so it's always smart if you have a little cushion in there somewhere. Yeah. We never know what's going to come up unexpectedly. Okay. Thank you.
Any other discussion from commissioners or any additional support from staff? Seeing none, all those in favor? Aye. posers motion carried to approve resolution 3245.
So it sounds like emergency Oh, as indicated there isn't much information purposes for sections. And none of this staff is up for discussion. Now.
We just wanted to come to this humble body and just let you know the hard work this team has been and getting Devery we are in the ocean. It's not doing them out of a fire hydrant, in the alternate trying to make sure that a corporate governance is where it needs to be that we're stabilizing, you know, pretty much our foundation so that we can continue on with all these competing factors. To NASCO master development agreement update is basically that we're still in negotiation and somebody gave us the approval with the exception of making sure that two of the commissioners review the information. So we won't go forth until we get the second review from one of the commissioners that just, you know, got a whole bunch of data all together in one instead of getting it piecemeal. The Community Engagement update is that thanks to Miss Emily O'Reilly and the team as well as partnership with Miss Denise Jones and her team. The Choice Neighborhood applications was filed for divorce Park is a 500,000 planning that you guys approved. So that was filed with the SEC co applicant with the city of Detroit on June the seventh and then the Woodbridge estates update is dates is gone, but really just talking about just where they're at, you know, so if we just go with we call it Gardenview Kip, pretty much. It's the 200 up to 200 units, and we're still working through that that development RFP is out to get a developer, we're trying to do some, you know some independent cost estimate. So we will come to the sample body in July for that and then I think that's pretty much it from a departmental report. I just think the highlight really is Mr. Nice Jones and Felicia, for us to talk about. First graduate.
Oh yes. So
we have a resident and longtime been here since 2014. I was in the FSS program. And she just purchased her first home first all the work actually and then just can't doesn't put I'm ready and she had actually went out on her own and got the arm financial education piece and it just came to us so we can work better with the mortgage company and my staff Jeff Bond who was just wandering in and out talking back and forth with the mortgage company making sure reaching out to ACB to make sure we got all the documents in place and I mean it just it was fantastic. Absolutely.
So is this a market rate? I mean, this is so MIT, she's got it.
And what this wonderful is just homeownership, but also internally how we had to get a process to get the extra compliance with all the different regulatory agencies that we needed to be and how every department got together on a call. I took on my team from the compliance manager from this school to make it happen. So it's just a wonderful experience internally and externally, and more to come do
want to come right on an ACV side as well as LFP.
So that's the fun part is that we get to start this initiative again, and help these families make the dream of homeownership a reality. So we were excited about awkward Salmone show and yeah, looking forward to many more.
We offer we don't have to go into this because we're way over but do we offer financial literacy classes and
listen, homeownership, we can get across. Okay.
Any other questions, comments? All right, I think we can move into public comments. Right. This is the opportunity for public comments on matters related to agenda action. Items, comments going into three minutes for individuals by representatives. To ensure speakers adhere to the time and time people will give a one minute warning for those with three and a two minute warning for those with five. This warning will mean will be a by means of a tome and the speaker's time is up. The timekeeper will just connect the call or ask them to sit down. If you're appearing at the meeting virtually you will be able to sign up by calling the number on the tree housing Commission's website and or by raising your hand and being identified within the Zoom application during public comments, other persons may sign up if they are able to appear in the room provided there is sufficient space to accommodate those who care to make a physical appearance. A person representing the group must identify him or herself and the group when calling please note that the speaker may not hold their time nor yield time to another speaker. persons were called in to sign up to speak during the public comment period will be recognized first in order in which they have signed up. Then all others who raise their hands when your name is called. If you're on the room. Please stand state your name and clear and audible tone. And if you're appearing on Zoom, please. When you when your name was called please respond clearly audibly after the microphone is unmuted. Do we have anyone online that has signed up for public comment? We do those first so let's start with Chris Carr powers Well,
I'm not sure if this morning or afternoon I will be very brief. I came here last month after reading a number of media reports that were not favorably related to the Detroit Housing Commission. I'm a consultant by profession. I have come out of the auto industry and then a CEO and then a C O. Dentist CFO. I'm just passionate about my city. I want to help the Detroit Housing Commission in some way. I had the opportunity to talk to Mr. Siebert, Mr. Halsey and Mr. Joseph last month in an offline kind of fashion. Kind of got lucky going to the bathroom. And Mr. Halsey and Mr. Siebert suggested that I potentially request some time with Mr. Miss Tucker. I'd like to say to you, you don't know me. But I'd like to help. And if I may, at a time that's convenient for you to talk about three things. How the Detroit Housing Commission deals with corporate governance with people with culture and stretch. This meeting, in my opinion, is an operational need. This is not a strategy session. And so last month, I saw an experience that this body approved a budget for the coming fiscal year. That says to me, there's already been some strategy that drove that budget. But given that a interim CEO is in place, and potentially a new ca CEO, maybe named whoever that is, is going to be hamstrung by about a year. So now is the time for the DNC to ask itself. Does it want to be about transformational change, or will it continually limit itself? incremental change and that's all I have to say. I hope that she will grant me something. Absolutely.
With jazz we can schedule that.
Thank you. And we should I follow up with you.
Right here is my information. Follow up.
Thank you.
Thanks. Thank you.
Next on the list is Paul Robinson. Parkside Historical Society. Yeah, wait. I missed it. I have it this time. Okay, okay. And the next is last Shawn Turner from the city of Detroit. HRD. I don't have any. Okay. Thank you for both attending. Did we have any one online?
Sir Well, you should be able to unmute unmute yourself.
There you are.
Okay, great. Thank you and I have to apologize for my voice. I'm recovering from an infection. Hello, my name is Zachary roe. I'm the Executive Director of the Friends of Parkside and a former resident of Parkside, the prince of Parkside, was started by residents for residents in 1981. I want to start by thanking all the village department residents, fop board members and supporters who attended today's commissioners meeting. Here are some updates of what friends the Parkside have accomplished since the May DC commission meeting. We have continued to host our weekly Tuesday bingo game with seniors. We have monthly food distribution and provide a food box over 181 households including home delivery of 19 boxes to seniors, continued our bright futures after school program. We held our monthly Parkside community meeting in May we had Sabrina Ballinger, as the invited guest speaker to talk about staff changes that are made to these concerns. And we held our computer classes on Mondays for the general public through the grove at Google partnership. And also we had our Tuesday computer classes for seniors through the senior planet, and we are planning our 15th annual Parkside health and safety fair on July 17. In closing, I have a statement and then for questions for DC. As most of you know, my team and I have attended every day see Commission's meaning, says 2019 and we do our best to inform TVP residents about the monthly meetings. At each meeting. I discussed some of the things that we're doing that LP So the Detroit housing commissioners and staff know what we are doing. We have talked about our summer lunch program, our annual health safety fair our back to school event or Halloween Harvest Fest and our Dear Santa helper program that said here are my four why's Why is the AC resident Services Department duplicating events and activities that we have been doing successfully in Parkside for more than 20 years. Those resources can be applied elsewhere or used to enhance what we are what we've been doing. Why is the true Housing Commission tried to label LP as a service provider when we do more than provide services and here's why. We're residents driven principais I was started by residents for resistance because it roots in ongoing connection to the community. We do comprehensive programming. We have our advocacy role we act as advocates for the community, especially in interaction with entities like Detroit Housing Commission, the management office, and MDHHS and other agencies when residents request us to also be working on community empowerment. We focused on empowering residency programs like our ComputerCraft goes beyond the bases service delivery to build capacities and skills. In fact, Ddac acknowledged in an MOU with friends at Parkside, dated on October 26 2011. Exhibit C, the AC responsibilities DHD agrees to officially recognize the printed parts that as an advocate of the residents they purport to represent and support as tenant participation activities. This builds on the next why, why hasn't the ACA acknowledged the fact that TVP residents weren't present Parsa as their advocate during the TVP redevelopment process during the dgac community engagement meeting on Saturday, October 15 2020 to one quality that resident wanted and the developer was a proven track record. Of pardoning within existing on site community based organization that mean us. Another key credit criteria had to do with commitment service our benefit to developers should provide was a commitment to partner with existing on site community based organization. Now these criteria rated forth in the results but some reason the top three gets elected. In fact, and you know, Scott presentation to TBP residents and to I'm sorry, in fact in DiNozzo presentation to TVP residents in in their submitted RFP. They say they will work with MPP during the redevelopment process. Residents took them for the word. Well last why? Why is the AC trying to shut down from the parts after more than 33 years and settlement bracing and supporting us? I would like to thank DC commissioners and staff for their support and their particular public housing residents including those that the village of Parkside, thank you.
Thank you for that, Mr. Rowe. That your comments and feedback will be taken into consideration any commissioner comments? Mr. Rogers,
you just restate the three questions that you had succinctly gonna make sure that I heard that right.
Okay. All right. It's actually
for for my mistake. Okay. All right.
So, why is resonance services duplicating events and activities that we have been doing successfully and Parkside for more than 20 years? So for example, our healthcare is coming up July 17. That your housing Commissioner for health care July 10. We have our back to school rally scheduled in August. They have one in August. We have our annual health annual Halloween party in October, they are winning October, and then we have our annual Dear Santa program. So those are duplication that we're not we're not understanding. The next question is why is the AC trying to label LP as a service provider when we do more than provide services and the ACA acknowledged that we do that in the MOU dated October 26 2011. The next question is, why hasn't the ACA acknowledged the fact that TVP residents want from the Parsa as an advocate during this TVP redevelopment process? The last one is why is the AC trying to shut down from the parts after more than 33 years. Thank you
Alright, how would you do one of your staff responsible?
Well, staff response I think that's okay. So that we are paying as always, if you save one person, like we help one person you help them at all. So we are trying to do the same thing and more importantly, our residents are definitely important. So we want to make sure we respond to this in writing. We have a website devoted to Parkside and then we development and so we want to make sure that we take all questions down and that we respond back to them in writing. If that's okay with the sample fine, can
answer a question? And when we do will those be in the minutes? I mean, it's very hard to
absolutely we can we can make sure that the members as well as put them on the website, and then respond directly back to the street guy.
I think the only thing I will say is this right? I don't think that you should think about to the extent there are duplicating efforts or events. I don't think you should think about that as a complication, you should take it as a compliment. because to the extent that friends have parks, I was holding events that are very successful. It's impossible to get 100% resident participation they give time, right? These people work and have jobs and kids, et cetera, et cetera. So to the extent that we're doing more resident services and not less, I would think that that would be values aligned. For both of us and if they are going to duplicate events. We're reaching more people theoretically. So I would encourage you enough to think about that. As competition but as a compliment.
time I hit sign is always time is up I'm sorry.
So it's duly noted and highly respected and we do appreciate feedback and comments, but I think Mr. Commissioner fever set it up, Beth we're trying to work as partners and as we always said, to save one child and one person that helps the community. So we will thoughtfully put it together response and a service providers just the applications across folio, and it's gonna bring 50 additional or 60 additional service providers to Parkside. We have across our portfolio but we want to put this in writing thoughtfully, tactically, send it put it on my website, and also send it to Mr. world
and make sure that someone receives it as well. If that's permitted.
Any other Commissioner?
Commissioner comments?
bad comments.
I want to make a motion to adjourn. Support. properly moved and seconded that we adjourn. All those in favor. Hi, also same right there in 1225.
To one all right, go ma'am. Looked at after everyone have a great day.
Have a good holiday and one. One second. Yes. Thank you.