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Board of Police Commissioners, 4/17/2025
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00:00Oh, right there by the door,
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00:08but there is that people
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00:40Wow, you're all Detroit,
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00:51thank you. I appreciate that extra service you gave there
Speaker 1
00:55for you. Good. See you. Little
Speaker 2
01:17yes last couple of days, but warming up again yesterday, evening, over afternoon, I should say, but it's Michigan weather. We're not doing too bad. Exactly.
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01:30We want it off.
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01:42The meetings to order
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02:00commissioners,
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02:02the chair. Is here outside.
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02:07He's outside, right?
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02:10There's no order anyway, because we don't have
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02:18a corner. How you doing? All right,
Speaker 4
02:22we got we got Fire Commissioner Bill. Yeah, that's chair. Chair woods here too. I seen him. Yeah, he's here.
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02:29So that'll make five over two,
Speaker 5
02:31the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit. I call this meeting to order, or I
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02:54whenever you are you guys are you?
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03:11I don't know you're sitting at Yeah,
Speaker 6
03:13I'm sorry. Are you doing? Good sir. Hey,
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03:17chair, What's up, baby? Alright, good
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03:22alright, we will
Speaker 6
03:32try to get through this meeting quick, right, right, right, alright.
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03:39You get everything
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03:42good, alright, alright, let me know. Okay, right. Well,
Speaker 6
03:49almost Tyler diamond gotta be here. We got five now. We got five now there's one upstairs. Okay, cool every pound.
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03:56She's up when she coming down.
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04:00Ask Commissioner Bernard to come down and See
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04:06so we should be good, right?
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04:54Three is
Speaker 7
04:58is what is 305? Is the 17th of April, the board of police commission meeting is called to order.
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05:06Do we have the chaplain online?
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05:08Yes, sir, you do. Okay.
Speaker 7
05:12Thank you, brother, Chaplain, please provide the invocation for us
Speaker 8
05:19all, hearts and mind clear, let us pray heavenly father, eternal our God in heaven. We thank you for this day. Let us live, love, laugh and be glad in it. We thank you for the tremendous your tremendous power of your mercy and your grace, Lord. We ask that you bless everyone attached to this call. We ask that you bless all the police commissioners, the and its staff, the entire Detroit Police Department, its leaders and staff. We ask that all things be done decently and in order, we ask a blessing over the entire city of Detroit and to keep us all safe from hurt, harm and danger. Lord, please keep us all free of all hurt and danger and keep us safe and secure. We ask these blessings and more in the mighty, magnificent and merciful God our Lord and Savior. Let us all say, Amen.
Speaker 7
06:13Amen. Thank you. Chaplain Kirk Goodloe, thank you.
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06:17Yes. Thank you
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06:20so this
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06:21now
Speaker 7
06:25have, we don't have a quorum in here yet. If we can, I know Commissioner Bernard was upstairs, and we can contact her to ask if she can come down to the meeting, so that we can have a quorum that would be appreciative. But let's get the chief of police report.
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06:44Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes,
Speaker 9
06:46that's not a staff report. You can't do that according to the
Speaker 7
06:50Open Meetings Act this. Excuse me, the chief of police report is not, we're not voting on anything.
Speaker 9
07:01I'm just I just advised. So this has come up before, and the law department, this is not just my personal opinion. Law Department said the Chief of Police is not staffed the Open Meetings. Actually, you can have staff reports and public comment and you can discuss items of interest, as long as you don't make any motion. But the chief of police report is not a staff report.
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07:25We can get comments from the chief of police, can't we?
Speaker 9
07:30I just advise them, Mister Chairman, would be inappropriate.
Speaker 7
07:33It would be an inappropriate we did before, you know. So we've been doing it, you know. So I guess we've been violating it. You know, you know so and our staff didn't advise us otherwise. But let's, let's go to the
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07:50report from the
Speaker 7
07:53personnel director. Do we have a personnel our personnel directors here?
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07:59Does she work for the
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08:00schemes, The police fees, yeah, absolutely, yes.
Speaker 10
08:26Good afternoon through the Chair. Thank you. Good afternoon. I will be briefing the human resource Report for the month of March. Believe you all have the handouts so for the Department of staffing, and as I said, this is for the month of March. Departmental staffing. Department was filled at 97% for sworn we were filled at 99% and we had a total of 38 vacancies at that time. For police assistance, we were filled at 90% and we had three vacancies. And for civilians, professional staff, we were filled at 91% we had 77 vacancies for recruiting together. The fiscal year we had a total applicants, applications of 1873 68 when processing to withdrew 557 our 517 members have been hired, temporary disqualified was 233 currently disqualified was 169 and awaiting M calls was 227 for him, close testing for the written in the physical Julie test for schedule. We had a total of 194 for the written 266 for physical Julie, for those that appeared, we had a total of 123 for the written test, 177 for the physical agility test, for the pass rate. Out of the 123 that appear for the written it was 77 and a failure rate was 42 for the physical agility. 107 passed and 70 failures for the physical agility reschedule was for for the written test, three for the physical agility test. 67 no shows for the written test, and 86 for the physical agility test. For new hires, we had a total of 45 broken out, sworn 23 and professional staff civilians, 22 we did have an academy class that graduated with 20 for the Detroit residency. Total for Detroiters, 608 and 15 police assistance for Detroit residency, and 425 for civilian, professional staff for non Detroiters. We had 2025
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10:4014 police assistance, and then 321
Speaker 10
10:44civilian professional staff. Of those. Residency information for the new hires, civilians, Detroit residency, we had 17 new hires, six for the Detroit sworn police academy. For the attrition, we have a total of 34 broken out, 14 sworn 20 civilians for you leave absence for the FMLA. Continuous. We had 17 for sworn one for civilian, 121 for FMLA, intermediate for sworn 65 civilians, parental leave, 10, sworn one civilian, medical leave, one sworn five civilians for restricted we had a total 154 for sworn 10 civilians disable, 11 sworn three civilians and sick. 33 sworn five civilians for personnel suspensions. We had a total of 14. That was 13 police officers, one sergeant, and then for the separations from Mark, we had a total of 1412, police officers, two sergeants, and then for drop, we had a total of 494 in addition to that, we had a total of we have Five academy classes currently, right now, total of 136 students. The next class will graduate May the night. Our next class will start April 28 orientation will be April 25 and then you'll have six classes over at the Academy. We are planning to have their fellows and grow Detroit youth talent. They will start June and July. So we are accepting applications, reviewing resumes for those and then, on a side note for we always like to say, because of the contract, we thanks to everyone who contributed separation versus hires beginning from January 23 to the we will have a net gain of a total of 350 officers for the calendar year. Of this year, we have a net gain of 12 pending any questions that concludes my presentation, any
Speaker 7
12:54questions? Commissioners, there have been no questions. Thank you very Connie. Please call the roll.
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13:03Commissioner Woods present
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13:07Commissioner Bernard, present District Two,
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13:10Commissioner banks, the district
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13:12three. Bell
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13:14present District Four,
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13:15Commissioner Burton, present district five,
Speaker 11
13:20Commissioner Hernandez, present. Commissioner more. Excuse. Commissioner personally excused. Commissioner de Walsh, present. Seven present.
Speaker 7
13:30Thank you very kindly. We have a quorum. I entertain the motions for the approval of the April 17, 2025, agenda, so move by Commissioner Hernandez, second, second by Commissioner Bernard. All in favor, say, aye. Anyone opposed, motion is carried. Entertain a motion for the minutes of agenda. I entertain a motion for the approval of the minutes for April, the third, 2025, so move motion made by Commissioner Hernandez, second, second by Commissioner Bernard. In discussion, all in favor. Say, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. I entertain a motion for approval of the closed session, minutes for April, the third, 2025,
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14:17so moved, moved by Commissioner Bernard.
Speaker 12
14:22No objection. I wasn't here, but no objection.
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14:25Anyone second? It
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14:29second, second by
Speaker 7
14:31Commissioner Dewas. Any discussion? All in favor? Say, aye. Anyone opposed? The motion is carried. I entertain a motion for the approval of the minutes for April 10, 2025, so moved, moved by Commissioner Bernard. Anyone second? It second by Commissioner Bernard? Any discussion? All in favor? Say, aye. Anyone opposed? The motion is carried, introduction of Bill, PC staff, Chief of Police, elected officials and representatives and community leaders through the
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15:04chair. Introduction, Please
Speaker 11
15:08present the OPC staff attorney, Dante Goss chief investigator, Jerome Ward field drew freeze. Felicia Tyson, Mary Barber, Teresa blossom, Candice Hayes armies here, Joshua, John Yeah, Underwood, Dr Francis Jackson, parliamentarian, Office of Chief Investigator, supervising investigator, la Sonia Sloan, DPD, HR director Katrina Patillo for police chief. Todd Bettison as Deputy Chief Parrish. Our interpreters today are Ms Chicago and Dr Stephanie Beatty, court reporter, Don handy side and reach Jackson for audio visual, Charles Henry media services, video, elected officials or representatives signed in at this time. A Marie overall for state representative. Tyrone Carter, Miss free to Butler, second precinct Community Relations president, Ladon Davis, Fred der Hall, Office of council member Frederick Hall, the third mark, young president of LSA, Ron Thomas, President DPO a Scotty Bowman and former Detroit Police Police Commissioner William Davis, are signed in at this time.
Speaker 7
16:21Thanks. Thank you. Very kindly. Going to item number two on the agenda. The this motion sees the board's approval to immediately hire two temporary administrator, Special Service Task workers, employees for the Office of the Chief Investigator. The rationale for this request is the urgent need to address the existing backlog of citizen complaints by providing administrative support. Mr. Callaway and MS Neely will free up the valuable time of our sworn investigators, allowing them to focus on the critical tasks of conducting thorough and timely investigations. This temporary staff and solution will directly contribute to the significant reduction in the back law, ultimately improving the efficiency and responsiveness of the Office of the Chief Investigator and serving the citizens of the Detroit we did make sure that all of the applications were saying and all the relevant doctors was sent Hand to all of the board members for review and talk to numerous board members and saying that this is something that is palpable for members. So pleasure Commissioner Hernandez move as supported by Commissioner the wash to hire the two task workers. Any discussion? All in favor? Say, aye? Anyone opposed? Okay, yes, that's what I thought I did, Mr. Daniel Calloway and Miss launder Neely. Thank you, Madam, Commissioner all of favors. Say, aye, thank you. Any one
Speaker 13
18:08of those. I'm gonna stand because I don't agree with totally agree with the process. Okay,
Speaker 7
18:13all right, thank you. So the eyes have it and the motion is carried. So let's go to the next item here, and we try and we I know we had some closed door matters. The chief of police report.
Speaker 14
18:31Thank you, Mr. Chairman, through you to the rest of this honorable body, beginning with crime, we are down 10% in homicides, 33% non fatal shootings, 14% in robberies. Our total part one crimes are down by 9% and we have 29% fewer carjackings compared to last year. Moving on to Community, the department's happy to report an update on the Detroit Castle cleanup over the weekend. Chief medicine assisted in cleaning up Mr. Brooks property on Detroit C side, in addition, a team of community members and the chief work to have the legal issues related to the property resolved, seventh precinct had the DEA take back. This involves a seventh precinct receiving the golden throne trophy for breaking the department's record held since 2018 by collecting 145 pounds in prescription medication. On behalf of the chief of police, I want to thank the officers from the seventh precinct for their exceptional work in helping take prescription drugs off the street. Transitioning to recruiting today, the recruiting team attended the Garden City High School Fair, the Wayne State criminal justice fair and the Renaissance high school career fair, hoping to get more applicants. We also had the precinct Easter egg hunts on Friday, April 18, the fifth precinct will be hosting an Easter egg hunt at the ball duck Park. The community can join the precinct for egg hunting, toy games and prizes. On Saturday, April 19, the 10th precinct will be hosting an Easter egg hunt at the light of the world church. The community can the community can join the precinct for egg hunting, face painting and an opportunity to win a new bike. Transitioning to significant incidents, first report out on a non fatal shooting. This happened Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 1:31pm officers were dispatched the 4800 block of Lennox on a call for service for a non fatal shooting. Officers arrived on scene and observed the victim lying on the ground suffering from a gunshot wound. Medics transported the victim to a local hospital, where the victim was listed in temporary, serious condition. Officers from the fifth precinct secured the scene, and detectives from the fifth precinct, Detective unit, shooting team, were notified and responded to the scene. Detectives determined that the victim was accidentally dropped off at the location by a ride share driver. The victim got into an argument with the suspect at the location after taking a picture of the suspect's house, the suspect shot the victim and then left the location after the shooting, detectives from the fifth precinct detective unit developed information on the identity of the suspect. On april 15, 2025 the suspect turned himself in at the fifth precinct. Suspect was transported to the Detroit Detention Center for processing. The detectives have prepared a warrant for the Wayne County prosecutor office for review. The warrant is currently being reviewed. Regrettably, we did have a fatal shooting on Friday, April 11, 2025 at 12:51pm, officers were dispatched the 8500 block of Piedmont on a call for service of a fatal shooting. Officers arrived on the scene and observed the victim suffering from a gunshot wound to the head, and to the head. Medics arrived at the scene and pronounced the victim deceased at the scene, officers from the sixth precinct held the scene and detectives from the homicide unit were notified. Detectives later determined that the victim was shot by a known suspect who left the location after shooting the victim. Officers checked the area and located the suspect. The suspect was arrested and transported to the Detroit detention center. Perspectives from the homicide submitted a homicide unit submitted a warrant to the Wayne County prosecutor's office for review, and that warrant was approved. The suspect has been arraigned at the 36th district court on the following charges, homicide, murder, first degree premeditated weapons, felony firearm. Also, we had a quintuple non fatal shooting, which occurred on April 12, 2025 at 4:04pm officers were dispatched to the 14,000 block of Sussex on a call for service for a family troubles of servants, which was updated to a non fatal shooting. Officers arrived at the scene and discovered that five victims, all family members, had been shot. Three of the victims were at the scene and were transported to a local hospital suffering from gunshot wounds by medics. Two of the victims were privately conveyed to a local hospital for treatment. All the victims were listed in stable or temporary serious conditions. Detectives determined that all the victims were related and got into a large fight at the location. During the fight, three of the victims fired shots striking each other and victims and victims four and five. On April 14, 2025 detectives prepared and submitted warrants the Wayne County prosecutors office for review, and those warrants are currently pending. We had an escaped prisoner. On April 17, 2025 This involved a 22 year old male with a history of violence, he is back in custody, I'm grateful to say, and now facing additional charges after managing to briefly escape from great police custody during a transport from a medical facility in the 4200 block of st Anton springs. His time on the run was short thanks to the fast action and sharp coordination of the involved officers. It's a suspect who allegedly assaulted DVD officers during multiple parts of the arrest and transport was quickly located and taken back into custody thanks to our Detroit police aviation unit and coordinated efforts by officers on the ground, he was taken into custody without further incident. This outcome reflects the strength of our partnership with our community and our effectiveness with our technology and protecting both our officers and our neighborhoods, and that's all I have.
Speaker 7
24:05Thank any questions? Yes, sir, Commissioner
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24:09banks, thank you, Mr.
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24:11Chair.
Speaker 4
24:14Manager Paris, how did the prisoner escape? My
Speaker 14
24:20understanding is that he assaulted the officer and managed to get away from the officers.
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24:31Okay, good, yeah, Commissioner Bernard, um,
Speaker 15
24:33just, uh, quickly. Um, the our stats are not as good as they had an increase, obviously, in crime and in gun related crime in the city. One, what is the plan to address that too? Can you arrange it doesn't happen, not next week, or whenever you want to do it. But I know that we have a number of groups from better that the chairman is familiar with that are engaged in being in the community that to try to stop the violence, I mean, and we have, I forgot the names of some of them, but you know them all, and that's a lot of money. We spend a lot of money funding those initiatives, and maybe we could get a report on on what they're doing, and you might be able to ask them what they're going to do differently or better in the months to come, because it's getting sort of disturbing, not just for me, but for certainly, people who come into the city.
Speaker 14
25:33Absolutely, we can certainly get a report of that nature to the board. But if I could just reiterate that presently, today, we're down 10% in homicides, down 33% in non fatal shootings, down 14% in robberies, and down 9% in total part one crimes, and we're down 29% in carjackings, and that compared to the historical crime reductions we had last year. So we're still on a downward trajectory. One is too many. I'm
Speaker 15
25:59sorry. It's just that you've spoiled us, because we were really down like 30% in every category or more. And so now we're looking for, you know, those sort of stats that show things are going down from like they have been all year so far. I mean, so that's all. That's why I'm interested to see what, what we can do, absolutely what you think the causes are, how we can interdict it or whatever.
Speaker 7
26:24Yeah, I'm happy. I'm happy to invite CVI groups to come present before the board to
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26:30get it nip it in the budget while it's still
Speaker 7
26:33Yeah, and then yeah, yeah, like you said that the numbers are still going down. Thank God. And we want to get a dime more. And so I think that's a good thing. And some of these cases have been like families, you know, you know, you got five families and shooting at each other at one time. So it's been group, yeah, domestic type situations and stuff. So, yep. So Commissioner, thanks, yes,
Speaker 4
27:02I just can't believe when I'm sorry about lowering your title, your deputy chief. I remember when he was a commander, though, so I'm still thinking. I'm thinking hacking time. So Congratulations on your promotion. You work to get that promotion, so we want to make sure you get that type of respect, Deputy Chief. But I want to come I want to revisit that situation. I needed time to think something else. When a prisoner is being transported, how can
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27:36you run and stuff like that?
Speaker 14
27:38Well, first of all, being handcuffed does not render a person immobilized, and I've seen people run very fast in handcuffs. But if I'm not mistaken, I believe Sergeant Sal may have additional information. My understanding is that he was able to get the handcuffs from the prisoner. Was able to get the handcuffs from the back to the front, which makes you more mobile and more dangerous, out to through the
Speaker 16
28:03chair Sergeant Dio media relations, yes, sir, what so? What we had this morning, early morning today, in the 4200 block of st Antoine, there was a individual that was arrested for weapons offenses. He made the Detroit detention center, and they took him to the hospital for a medical clearance. And during that transport back, when they put him into the vehicle, he was able to evade the officers, and unfortunately, he got he escaped briefly, and they were able to apprehend him a short distance later. But the investigation for how he escaped, it's still under investigation, but we hope to have more for the board once we have a better update.
Speaker 7
28:54Thank you very kindly. There's nothing further we can go to the chief of police report. You have a question? Yes, sir, I
Speaker 13
29:01have a statement that I want to say briefly. I just want to thank the Detroit Police Department, the men and women in blue, for outstanding work that they do year out, year round. You know, we talk about community we talk about community policing. Detroit Police Department definitely has one of the best models across the country, where other departments is definitely looking at and trying to adopt. I can't speak when it comes to other little community groups and things of that nature, but I can say that the Detroit Police Department, along with Crime Stoppers, has been making a difference here in the city of Detroit and across southeastern Michigan. That's it for me, for today. Thank
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29:47you, Commissioner.
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29:50Let's go to the oral Government Communications.
Speaker 17
29:55Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have six speakers in the audience. Our first speaker will be Lieutenant Mark Young Miss Williams, Minister Eric blunt,
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30:07good evening. Good evening.
Speaker 18
30:08Plans to those officers that whatever incident that happened today, it's amazing that they offered passion to a person that claimed he was injured or sick or ill who had alternative motives? That happens all the time. People go to the hospital, people get arrested. Lie about the injuries, illness, with austerity motives. I hope that the officers are okay. I never heard nobody ask about the officers, because that had to be a violent encounter. Heroes I am. I never cease to be amazed about the valor, the honor, the integrity of the men and women on the street. When you talk about a crime reduction that's off of every year back to back that 9% that's huge. That's huge. I see them out there. I live in this community. My hats off to them. They're facing a lot the warm weather coming is intermittent now, school shootings, financial uncertainty, political overload that affects them too. They're doing a great job driving those clamp stats down. They're doing their best out loud, spring, empathy, dedication, commitment, courage, sacrifice. Understanding, understanding, patience. It should be public service announcement for these fools that's out here with this recorders, foolishness, lawlessness and carelessness that's taking resources away from victims that really need it. So grateful. But last year, 2024 I saw DPD not only do awesome things like they've always done, but we didn't lose a man or woman in the line of duty. So this Police Week, we won't have to honor somebody that actually died or got killed in line duty. That's a testament to our department too, we might be honoring somebody that was previously not recognized. Many, let's not forget, just because we didn't have somebody fall in the last year, to not honor the all fallen. Many have not been recognized because they succumb for the injuries long after retirement, but were clearly duty related. See, they never got the military funerals, the 21 gun salute. They never got that. So let's not forget them never diminished. The sacrifice never diminished. What they do my head is off to what they face every day, because it is violent out here. All of us have had prisoners that tried to escape, and also we also got complaints when they tried to escape and we didn't let them escape. Let's not forget that part
Speaker 7
32:52house is gone constitutionally and done in a humane way. There, there's no complaints whatsoever. Excuse, excuse me. Excuse order, upon order, one order, you know, because we we believe in constitutional posts, one order on order, one order. We believe in constitutional policing in the city of Detroit, and we believe that people, everybody, should be treated with dignity and respect with this is not a open season on anyone, not on police officers. It's not open season on people that they take in custody. Long as it's done with dignity and respect and constitutionally, then there's no problems, and every citizens have a right to complain anytime they want to the chair. Yes, sir,
Speaker 13
33:47the Chair. I just find it to be very highly disrespectful for a chairperson to try and set down the union president for finishing up a statement that he was making this board. For the past decade that I've been here, I have never witnessed, you know, this type of behavior where a union president is being shut down and the board of police commissioners meeting if, even if he's, you know, have another 30 seconds or finishing a statement we should hear from the union president, especially the fact that he takes time to come to these meetings every week, and he's always true he should be on the agenda. He's always treated with dignity and respect
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34:34gender report
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34:38statements, but not know
Speaker 7
34:45they're moving on. Let's go. Yeah, they're watching you. You know, thank you.
Speaker 19
34:52Through the chair watching everybody. Thank you. Let's make this very clear, because last time I checked Wendell, when they was a vet in chief. He had like, 10 minutes. So make it make sense. Let's keep it 100 in here. Okay, I like to talk about couple weeks ago, when they was doing recruiting, and Linda Benar asked concerning what in the churches. And you asked this question, question about, what are they going to be doing to help the churches, but they were Youth League facilities to recruit at 3381 and I met that shelter at 3426 and the people that I'd be complaining about went across the street, and they were doing recruiting. And shortly, when I made the statement last week at OCI, they removed these people that was doing the recruiting, not all of them, but a few of them. Okay, let's talk about
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35:50new identity,
Speaker 19
35:52like 21 Jump Street. You all have officers that's on these forces that's been locked up in prison. You recruit them through the shelters, and it's very unfortunate you have no identity, and you can become a Detroit police officer. You didn't live in time in prison, that's not acceptable, and people who do not have US citizenship, that's not acceptable either. So you they create what identity that can become a Detroit police officer? Make that make sense through the chair and concerning officers that's in these shelters. Linda asked, are you guys doing any psych evaluation? There's a whole lot of mental illness going on in these shelters, but you your numbers are excellent. But how are they Excellent? Because you recruit people, I have to deal with a whole lot of marijuana smoking every night with officers with guns and badges. That's not acceptable either. And we need how to do no urine test, because they can cheat. What about hair samples? Thank you, Speaker. You
Speaker 5
37:07Good afternoon board, good afternoon you know, you can't help but appreciate people who are frustrated with this board. I mean the majority of your time and effort is spent on diversion. Coleman, Young did not create this commission because crime was up or down or there were people that were lost. He created it because bad cops were beating the hell and sometimes killing majority black people in this city. Why can't you concentrate on that? It's just so obviously corrupt. This week, after three years, the cop that killed Patrick Loyola is going on trial, body worn camera footage could have prevented so much of this. And why do I say that the cop that stopped him was going in the opposite direction,
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38:18but yet he stopped him on his license plates.
Speaker 5
38:22Make that make sense. And I noticed something called pre textual stops, but we need to be clear about how many times that's used in a profiling sense. And you talk about constitutional policing. Correct me if I'm wrong. It is constitutionally able for police officers to lie to citizens during a traffic stop. Correct me if I'm wrong, they did not lie under oath in a court of law, but that just shows you how corrupt This is. Lastly, about pursuits, whether or not DPD does pursuits, because, let's face it, legal and illegal immigrants going to run.
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39:13Thank you.
Speaker 17
39:17Our next next speaker, next three speakers will be Miss brine Smith, Miss Padilla Butler and miss today, Hawkins, Hankins, pardon me.
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39:36Sorry I really
Speaker 3
39:37got a thank you. All right. Yes, good
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39:41afternoon to everyone. Good afternoon
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39:45to my dear. Bernard,
Speaker 20
39:54nothing wrong, nothing wrong, but the young man. I was at the Harper hospital the other day, and I spoke to the young man you know, to speak to him. He's the security guard there. He knew me from the previous time, and he spoke with me in regards to being on the police force, and he gave me some information and so forth. So I said, Well, I know everybody's on the board, so I delivered that message to miss Bernard for you. Thank you. So in the meantime, I saw him again. He wished the best for you, and you get in touch with him, baby for me. Okay, okay. Now I have heard so much today, and I looked at it on TV. 11 o'clock in the morning. I watched the news on channel two. I am so upset because the fact is so much crime that's running rampant in our city, and we got a darn good city here. I came from Chicago over 60 years ago, isn't it, and then I loved it because of the way that we were living here. But now look like everything is going amok. As far as you look at the news every day, somebody is shooting, somebody that's killing and then above all, you have these men that's mistreating the women. I think I spoke about it last week, and I was quite upset about it, and I cried that day. But the fact is, I want the women to realize they're human beings, they're not puppets, and then not to be used. I raised three daughters, and I'm so proud of I don't know what to do. One's a postmaster, other one is a banker, executive, and then the other one's been with Ford for 35 years. I can't get her to retire. But anyway, I wish I could find a husband for it, though I would give me the policeman. But anyway, seriously speaking, I wish that the women would listen and not be abused by the men that are taking advantage of them. I know it's zero. Thank you. You're getting ready to say it, but take care everyone and be safe out here. And I love my police department. I respect them.
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41:56Thank you. Next speaker, you
Speaker 20
42:06Good afternoon, and I was told no. I was told to ask, I have a handout that I should have emailed, but I didn't, for the board and police officers representing the chief
Speaker 6
42:17speaking the microphone clearly.
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42:21Thank you.
Speaker 7
42:21I'm sorry. And restarted time for you. Know, you said you have some documents that you want to leave. Yeah,
Speaker 20
42:27no, I wanted to pass it out for the commissioners and the representative from the chief's office because I've neglected to email it. Okay, I was told to ask to do that. Okay, you
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42:36go ahead. Okay, staff, forget it. All right. Thank you.
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42:41Sheena. Give her one.
Speaker 20
42:45All right, okay, I just want to, in a nutshell, say the only reason why I'm in front of you all, because you can get the gist of it. You're talking to Mike some more. The only reason why I'm in front of you all, and I would appreciate the extra 15 seconds this clock, to be said, is because there's a noticeable absence of humanity here in my situation. You all might remember I spoke in front of you a couple weeks ago and seeing a report on TV two about how I'm being abused and misused by DPD, by them choosing and boldfully saying that they will not do anything to prosecute the person that assaulted me because I subsequently filed a complaint against the officer that befriended that person. Now the person that has assaulted me and needs to be prosecuted, she's at it again. I'm still staying in my house. I still don't feel safe. And that is the bottom line 90% Well, let me rephrase it. The vast majority of the discussions that I had post, talking to you and to officers, was about the officers I had to interrupt. But can we get to the prosecution? Hence this letter, somebody has to make DPD do their jobs, okay, before somebody gets killed. This woman, you have a recording says she was going to kill me. What proof do you meet me? And nine months, almost 10 months later, DPD is investigating, okay, which I think is a euphemism for we're going to do whatever we're going to do until something happens, and it will be out there when somebody gets shot. And I don't appreciate it. You do not have a right to not make my life the only thing that matters This is a body dedicated to policing, serving, getting rid of criminals, but you're going to side with a criminal and help that criminal, because one of your officers, with two of your officers, Parker and Deputy Chief hope, have decided they police officers should not be held accountable. I want somebody to save my life and to prosecute this person.
Unknown Speaker
44:55Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 17
44:57Next speaker, Miss Denise Taylor, and then we'll go into zoom.
Unknown Speaker
45:04I think we have to
Speaker 7
45:08do. Deputy Chief Commissioner would like to respond to that
Speaker 15
45:13and also miss you should go and see if you can get a if you've made a police report, you can get a PPO, a personal protection order,
Unknown Speaker
45:23yeah, you know, I,
Speaker 20
45:26I've been there, done that, and the judge said that it was a domestic dispute. Okay, so, you know, police reports, all of that.
Speaker 7
45:34Let me let it be clear that this board of Police Commission and we don't prosecute cases, and that has that's not on our purview of any of our powers, and so we don't have anything to do with any criminal prosecutions in no shape, form or fashion. Have the deputy and thank you, ma'am. You can be seated the or provide legal or provide any legal opinions in no shape, form or fashion, because that's not in our purview, and we don't have the capacity to do anything like that. Yes, with Deputy Chief, and then she seems as though she's leaving. Okay, so, no, no, no, no, you're good, no, so I was the deputy chief was going to respond to it?
Speaker 14
46:29No, thank you, Mr. Chairman, yeah, Lieutenant, could you get Miss Hankins information? But for the Board's understanding, I do believe that this matter has been the subject of several complaints to various offices of the city. I hope I'm I believe this is the one I'm certain and her matter was looked into, but out of an abundance of caution, I'll have a lieutenant review everything one more time, if for anything, to reassure the sport that this is the case that I'm thinking of, and that we've done everything that we can
Unknown Speaker
46:59for Okay. Thank you very kind. Next speaker,
Speaker 21
47:03yes, my name is Denise Taylor. I'm here in regards to two of my nephews. My sister, her son, was killed May, I mean, December 8, 2021 nothing has been done every time she's trying to get in touch with someone. She can't get in touch with them. As soon as you get in touch with someone, someone else has the case. Now, last year, her oldest son was killed, and we just need some closure. We need these police officers to act like if somebody in their family, because it just seemed like they don't care. I know some good officers out there. I know it is, but the bad ones overruled, the good ones seem like and we just need some justice. We're tired of getting a run around. The first lady that was in charge of my nephew's case in 2021 God rest her soul, she passed away. Then she recently got another officer that was in charge. He seemed like he was a good officer. He ended up retiring. My sister didn't know until she called and then she got the run around, and she finally got somebody else. I just I know it's a lot of killing out there, but my nephews are not just a number. We want y'all to treat our my nephews like they were your own. We just want some justice, and it This doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 7
48:33So are you saying you haven't received any responses of and if you haven't received responses, you will get a response. And I know that DPD has been working to be able to have a family unit, and I'm so sorry for your loss and your family's loss, but rest assured that you will get a response. The response that you get, I don't the investigation part. We have no purview over that, but rest assured that you would get an expeditious response from Homicide and give you an update on your family to update on the case. Deputy Chief, yes,
Speaker 14
49:12Could one of the officers get her information and to your point, Mr. Chairman, we do have a family unit. Their primary responsibility is to make sure that things like this do not happen, that everybody gets the updates that they need. So I'm disappointed to hear this report. We do have a unit whose job this is to make sure that you are contacted. I'm not sure what went wrong, but we'll correct it. We'll get your information. We'll make sure you get an update.
Unknown Speaker
49:35Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker
49:38for you and your family,
Speaker 4
49:41yes, yes, sir, I want to actually, young lady, Excuse me,
Unknown Speaker
49:44ma'am. Oh, I want to commission. I mean,
Speaker 4
49:48who hail Taylor, Miss Taylor. Who? Who killed your nephew? Was it a Detroit police can do no. Cannot do that open. Sorry, yeah, sorry, never do it again to talk off
Unknown Speaker
50:05the line. Thank you. All
Unknown Speaker
50:07right, yeah, Mr.
Speaker 17
50:09Chair, going to zoom, yeah. Our first speaker will be Scotty Bowman. CAC, Scotty Bowman, and then after Mr. Bowman, it'll be Miss Tara Brown,
Unknown Speaker
50:22yes, sir.
Unknown Speaker
50:24Mr. Scotty boldman,
Speaker 22
50:26yeah, I just had a tapped on mute. First of all, I just what I just heard disturbs me. The fact that a person can't even answer a simple question as far as who she believed killed a family member that seems rather serious. Moving forward though, the last meeting, it was confirmed that we have un investigated complaints going back as far as 2022 we're talking about three years behind on complaint investigation, and I assume there are many more recent ones that did get investigated because they were priority complaints, but the fact that we do not have this process caught up is disturbing. Now it is budget season, and I'm not sure if it's too late or if the board acted in the manner I'm going to suggest here, one that was timely, but you need to prioritize staffing that office sufficiently. And if you have the maximum number of investigators filled and you're still behind, what it means is you need more investigators. The other thing is, in addition to more investigators, often organizing information coming in from a large number of complaints, maybe it has an IT component, and if there's any information technology you need in order to help organize the complaints, to investigate them, for instance, to be able to look people up and contact involved individuals, then that would be important too. But you need there needs to be a number one priority on getting the investigation of these complaints caught up. It's a core function of this board, and that's really where I want to hear. I listen to the meetings I don't hear, other than when someone like myself brings it up, that being an issue that is being discussed and how to make things better.
Speaker 7
52:30Thank you very kindly. We've pursuing all of the above what you're saying. Thank you very kindly for the input. Next speaker you
Speaker 23
52:44Hello, can I be heard? Sir? Yes, sir. Oh, I'd like to start off by saying, I think it would be helpful for the board to do a couple of things. As you know, I'm a city Detroit retiring faculty president with city Detroit retiree group. I think it should be a greater effort to bring down the number of lawsuits filed against the Detroit Police Department, and the fact that there's a whole lot that comes out every year because of questionable practice by some officers, most officers are doing a good job, but I think it should be A greater effort to reduce the amount of lawsuits, I think it should be a greater effort to make sure that officers are honest and don't falsify official documentation. I worked for the water department for 34 years. It was regular, you know, like, say, if you work for the water department, you knew that if you falsify official documentation, that you could be fired. It should be some rules, in effect, that officers know there's certain things you cannot do, and that there are consequences if they do do it. One of them, perhaps, should be that you the city should not pay to represent people that falsify official documentations and lie under oath. Also, I think a greater effort should be made to make sure that we have more actual Detroiters on the Detroit Police Department. I think the numbers we have are horrible, and COVID young will be turning over in this grave to know that so many, the vast majority of the command officers and rank and file officers live outside the city today. Thank you for my for this consideration, and hopefully some actions will be made to help to improve the Detroit Police Department. Thank
Unknown Speaker
54:34you, Chair, yes, sir.
Speaker 13
54:37That was former Commissioner Bill Davis, yes, it's always great to hear him share this, because his concerns with the full Board was also was great serving with him four years on this board. But also want to just share with Commissioner, Bill Davis and also members of the community, we have more police officers moving and relocating back to the city, Detroit, every day, and so that's a good thing. We have officers that's moving back, not just every day, but I will say every year, you have more and more officers moving back to the city because they love the city. They work in the city. They love our community and and it's great to see, you know, and so, but more to what he was trying to say, you know, that was a state issue that allow the residency to be, you know, to be what it is now, where you don't have to live, work here, to live here, and whatever. But we have more officers moving back into the city that live in the city, more now than we probably had and COVID in the past 10 years, and so we starting to see more of that now officers moving back to the city, Detroit. This is a great department to work for, as I talked to many officers over the years, and we even have officers that left the department that's coming back to become officers with the same department that they started from right here in the city, Detroit. The Detroit Police Department just wanted to put that on the record. Thank
Speaker 4
56:30you very Yes, sir. And to say something, I want to say something right quick. Oh, that was a very, very encouraging news Commissioner Burton, which you put out on the floor that more officers from the suburbs are moving next to Detroit. Good stuff you put out there on the floor. I wanted to say this, and he put his house on the floor. On the floor. You have some great Detroit police officers who have lived a career on the force and walked in integrity for many, many years. And I stand by that because I know some so you have some good, strong integrity. And I pick that any day, anytime, and out there and one of them all right here, every week, I want to commend them. Want to commend you for your dedication, your heart, your drive, and
Unknown Speaker
57:40you as a champion
Speaker 4
57:42as a police officer. My wife was second man champion loyalty and the dedication that you got your heart
Speaker 13
57:55at one last thing, yes, sir, I want to want some I want to also just say that, you know, Chairperson, I mean past chairperson, in the past Commissioner, Willie Bell, you know, serve 30 some years, 30 plus years for this Detroit Police Department. You know, had a great, had a great, stellar career. You know, he can live anywhere he want in the world, but he choose to remain right here in the city, Detroit. He served honorably this past decade on the board. Serve honorably with the Detroit Police Department as he was going through the ranks, but more importantly, he also serve honorably when he was over in OCI, and so he understands the you know, we have good talent here. You know, we got people that retire, come back, serve and keep serving. But I do like to make a motion at this time, Mr. Chairman, for line item.
Speaker 24
59:00We're still in public comment. Move this along. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 7
59:05Yeah, we are in public comment. Let's yes
Unknown Speaker
59:17to the people
Speaker 24
59:21give her yes, this is Tara Brown, and I wasn't going to say anything this week, but I don't know what's going on between woods and Burton. I can probably guess from that ethics committee meeting, but y'all need to take that outside, beat each other up and go have a beer and be done with it. We are tired of coming here every Thursday to listen to Burton gush over the police and cut each other off. Woods and Burton cut each other off. I don't know what this is about, but another time I was here, Burton made a comment because Woods made a comment, made a joke at the expense of Bill. Instead of moving it on, we got to listen to that point. Be the labor Not on my watch. You're not going to make that joke on my watch. Where was your watch when you were expected to be here on time? Again? You are a oversight committee. If you think Bell is doing such a great job, which I don't doubt that he is, send him an email. Tell him when you walk past him on your way to your offices. That's not what this is for. Do police business? Get it over with. I'm sorry. Do the business of the board. Get it over with, and get us up out of here again. We need answers. What happened to the gentleman that came in here and said the the neighbor was harassing him? Did anybody follow up with him? The lady in the audience, we've heard her being tormented about her neighbor. Has anybody followed up with that? And how come we can't get anything with what? Any information about what's going on with that on the record. Also, Mister Burton, please, Commissioner, I'm sorry, Burton, can you please provide us of the number of officers that are moving back into the community? Because it sounds like you have information we aren't getting, because this is the first time I'm hearing this. So please, next week, have that information. How many of them have moved back in 2023 2024 and how many have moved back in the first four months of 2025 I like that information because, again, I'm not seeing it, and I do agree with Mr. Day or former Commissioner Davis, there are too many people or too many police officers or city employees in general. Let's just call it off living outside of the city of Detroit. And I totally agree Coleman Young would not like this. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker
01:01:23Thank you very kindly. Next speaker, thank you.
Unknown Speaker
01:01:26Speaker is Mr. Detroit Smith.
Speaker 25
01:01:32May I be hurt. Yes sir, I like to echo some of those sentiments. I just heard that that wasting so much time. I'm so sad. I couldn't be there in person. I had to pick my son up from school. But just to listen to that dialog was very interesting. It was not complaint related. Also the comment that you made last week, commission chair, chair Woods is very just disgruntling to hear that you say that the Commission and the board meets, not commission, what the board meets, just to meet every week and so and so and to hear what you just said to that lady who had, who's relative of murder victims, she has relatives that have been murdered. Um, it was very callous for you to say, Oh, we our thoughts and prayers with you. So if you didn't meet every week, she wouldn't have never been able to make her comment and come and, you know, give her grievances. My thing is, I work with a group called Mothers King boots on the ground. And they're they represent lots of families who had the same sentiment that family love unit is not working. It is not doing what it needs to be doing. One of the one of the cases from the mothers I work with was solved, but there are hundreds and 1000s of cases that are still open, that have not been solved, people not getting calls, and if they didn't work so hard, they didn't fight the way that they did, the family love unit would not even exist. So my thing is to even say things as far as or what the board should meet every week. It should meet every week, but it should actually do some work. It should ask some questions. It should have some oversight. It should use some of the authority it does have. Even if you can't adjudicate cases, you can't do things. And then the fact that y'all always trying to stop Commissioner banks. Commissioner banks is one of the only ones up there that fights and everything, everything he does is in opposition to what you guys are doing, because he's trying to do the right thing. For the most part. He is trying to get answers. He's trying to be transparent. He's trying to help families. He is working with several different families on several different issues. And I commend that man for fighting, and I commend that Commissioner for trying. And it's crazy how he's elected. And there are people who are appointees and have all this power not doing a thing. My thing is, I love to see people actually fighting and trying to help the people so sad. To see so many people throwing the face on and trying to act like they really care when they really don't. You, most of you people
Speaker 7
01:03:39would rather be somewhere else. Speaker, let's go to now the presentation to the board, the technology utilization and accuracy and bodywork, cameras and dash. Account, Mr. Chair, can I make a motion at this time? We follow the agenda. You can do that on the do business? Yes, you if it's a new business or unfinished business, yeah,
Speaker 26
01:04:08through 
the chair, yes, Good afternoon Chair and honorable board members. I'm Dr Martin performance compliance manager over the Civil Rights Division. Civil Rights Division is responsible for use of force. Audits, body worn camera review, audits, various audit compliance and compliance audits throughout the department. We also over the management, awareness, system, mass and the performance evaluation, enhancement review. Today's presentation is going to be on the body worn camera process.
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the chair, yes, Good afternoon Chair and honorable board members. I'm Dr Martin performance compliance manager over the Civil Rights Division. Civil Rights Division is responsible for use of force. Audits, body worn camera review, audits, various audit compliance and compliance audits throughout the department. We also over the management, awareness, system, mass and the performance evaluation, enhancement review. Today's presentation is going to be on the body worn camera process. Speaker 7
01:04:45Oh, you guys don't have a we have a handout. Are we following on here?
Unknown Speaker
01:04:52So today I'm going to go to remember,
Unknown Speaker
01:04:54do we have a overhead?
Speaker 7
01:04:56It's for the for them to follow with us. Yeah, we had to hand out right there. This is it alright? Go ahead. Sorry, today
Speaker 26
01:05:04I'm going to remember is required to wear body worn cameras. The next will be, when is the body worn camera activated? It will be CRD. CRD, daily review of body worn camera video. Then total events captured for 2024 and 2025 there will be questions. Alright? Right. First slide is on members required to wear body worn cameras. DPD policy indicates that members shall activate their body worn camera to record all significant contact with citizens. This requires all dppd, all DP dimmer, DPD, members that work patrol detectives. This includes detective turning on their body worn camera on scene interview when they're interviewing witnesses and integrity interrogation, sorry. And then all specialized units. This includes special response team, narcotics and vice.
Unknown Speaker
01:05:56Let's go to next slide.
Speaker 26
01:06:01Start off with the policy. Policy indicates that the body worn camera shall remain on until the event is completed in order to ensure the integrity of the recording. This calls of service, calls for service, vehicle stops and citizen stops, execution of search warrants or arrest warrants than any citizen or Congress, which requires police involvement before we go to the next slide I wanted to discuss at the beginning of every shift, officers are required to before they go on patrol, to sync their body worn cameras to the in car dashboard. This is monitored by the supervisor to ensure that the body worn cameras are synced with the camera. This is really important. If it's not synced, it won't activate. And then, once it's synced, they can activate it from the in car inside the vehicle, through the in car dashboard monitor. So that's why this is important. The next slide, please. You. Please. CRD, daily reviews. Body point, body one, camera review. So at CRD, we review all commands, specialized commands. So we go through a process. When we selecting videos, we get it for the CAD events. We go through all cat events, and we randomizing sample, and then we get a sample from 252 50. With this sample, we give it to the body one camera team. They review, if they find anything of going to review. Supervisor reviews it to confirm that there was a policy violation. What we're looking for when we do these reviews, the body one camera team, is looking for is events not captured. Partial events not captured. Code of Conduct that's considered profanity, demeanor or professionalism, search and seizure violations and any other policy violation that we find during the review.
Unknown Speaker
01:08:08Okay, next slide.
Unknown Speaker
01:08:11So the total events captured for 2024 and 2025
Speaker 26
01:08:16in 2024 the body worn camera team reviewed 3633 on three, body one camera footage, video, auto compliance rate for the department was 99% for 2025
Unknown Speaker
01:08:32first quarter, they reviewed 1051
Speaker 26
01:08:36video, body one Camera and 99 compliance break my rate, the 1% we wrote somebody on corrective action. Notices were sent out to commands to address the events that were not captured. I
Unknown Speaker
01:08:54want to say,
Speaker 26
01:08:57I know, make a note. So since we've been using body one camera. I'll just show let
Speaker 7
01:09:01me ask you, what do that 1% represent? How many numbers is that 1% how many numbers? Yeah, you got 3000
Unknown Speaker
01:09:13Say it one more time.
Speaker 6
01:09:17It's about 3336 36 Exactly. It's 36 okay, that guy is good.
Unknown Speaker
01:09:24I
Unknown Speaker
01:09:27read this my suit.
Unknown Speaker
01:09:32Yes, okay, it's
Speaker 26
01:09:34a state warmer thing, though. Since we've been using body on camera, it's been found that actually, for the first quarter, use of forces down allegations of force and citizen complaints, and then also, through the assistance of the command staff, they even conduct their own off body one camera audits. That's actually helped bring down the percentage in events captured.
Speaker 7
01:09:58Yeah, well, I want you to hear from my chief investigator in a minute. But Commissioner Dewas,
Speaker 27
01:10:05yes, thank you. Chair. With regard to the numbers, what percentage does that represent of the events? So you said you review 3633
Speaker 26
01:10:20of what number events captured? This is what actual when officers turn on their camera, so when they own Okay, when they all patrol goals are
Speaker 14
01:10:29doctor, Dr Martin, I believe what she's asking is, in a given year, how many total events are captured, you've reported out on what your team has reviewed, but, but, but how many total events are captured in a given year? And if you don't have the information, that's okay. We it's something that we can provide them. Yeah, we can provide. I don't have that in this moment, okay? And we will provide them the mission number of yeah, that is number three. That's number of events reviewed that they reviewed right sample,
Speaker 26
01:11:03right? No, that's not the sample. I'm sorry. That's actually the total amount of videos that were reviewed by the body one camera team.
Unknown Speaker
01:11:12That's all of those. That's all of them.
Unknown Speaker
01:11:14Okay, sorry, you review 100%
Unknown Speaker
01:11:17No,
Speaker 14
01:11:21no, if I may know that, is the number he civil rights division does not have the capacity to review all recorded events in Detroit police, where there's 10s of 1000s, hundreds of 1000s, events that are captured in any given year, what he's reporting out on are, is the number of events that, through randomization and auditing that they have actually reviewed of that total number, and it sounds like Dr Martin, at a later date, will be able to provide the total number of events so the board understands what percentage of the total number is actually we're actually laying eyes on. Is that correct?
Speaker 26
01:11:55Dr Martin, yes, sir, you do have number. There's like 33,000 and we randomized from that
Speaker 27
01:12:03so it's like 10% is what you're reviewing. Yes, ma'am, okay, thank you. I wanted to know. Thank you, Commissioner. I
Speaker 12
01:12:12have a few questions the slide, when is the body worn? Camera activated? I'm just curious. I know someone mentioned it before a couple months ago. Okay, but what's the retention period of that footage? The 90 days 60s on that? No,
Speaker 26
01:12:27it's for lifetime. We so that was the old camera. The
Speaker 12
01:12:32old camera. What new related to a new so now it's indefinite. Yes, if
Speaker 14
01:12:37I can expand on that, a couple of years ago, the state of Michigan changed the law to require video footage be preserved, whether it's related to civil or criminal matters, to be preserved until the adjudication those cases are fully educated, even through appeals. Because of the way our system is set up, we really have no way of compartmentalizing our video in such a way to where we can ensure that only cases that have been fully adjudicated Video, Video connected to or related to those cases drops off. So for that reason, the rule is indefinite retention of all video until we come up with a better way of compartmentalizing video. We're just not there yet, and it's a challenge.
Speaker 6
01:13:19Okay, so, so you got, excuse me, I'm sorry, second question, but
Speaker 26
01:13:23it's not related to, no, you go ahead. Okay, second question on the daily review, I know you said that there's a you take samples of 250 at a time. I'm curious the randomization after randomization, just after that? Yes, sir, so we get 250 that's the number we're trying to get, us 250 out of that 250 we randomized through all the commands, and then it's divided through the body one camera team.
Unknown Speaker
01:13:48Is there any? Is it any of this automated?
Unknown Speaker
01:13:52What do you mean automated? Far as I mean the randomization,
Speaker 12
01:13:55I'm sure is to a certain extent, but I'm I guess where I'm trying to go to is just the element of human error. So if you're reviewing 250 footages, if you will, and it's down to interpretation of humans interpreting this policy, there's guaranteed to be human error which can cause gaps. Well, that's why we have the supervisors review to confirm human at the end of the street. So that's why I'm asking. Is it automated? If it is automated, do you think automated an audit by keyword, sir, like, what do you pick up? There's so many policies and so much language in these policies that that's that's really where I'm going with this question. So
Speaker 26
01:14:36it's we go by the events that we have different categories on precincts. We do. What is it? Interrogations. We have different categories of what we're looking for. Specialized units. We'll do a certain so each one has a certain percentage, like right now we were doing 75% platoon four, and then 25% platoon one, two and three so and then there's a breakdown of each command, a percentage. What we're going to
Speaker 12
01:15:07look at, does your sample include any kind of correlation with OCI and complaints? Because, again, I like there might be a correlation, though.
Speaker 26
01:15:18Get with him to see if that is a correlation we can get together and easy see it is no currently we don't me and him that have not connected.
Unknown Speaker
01:15:27I feel like that's a natural fit,
Unknown Speaker
01:15:30right? Absolutely, that was going to be my question again, if you if
Speaker 12
01:15:33it's a keyword search for the audit or keyword, however you want to explain it, the automation, it would kind of make natural sense that OCI would be involved some level of whether it be use of force, violate all these things, to be able to review those
Unknown Speaker
01:15:49Commissioner if I may,
Speaker 14
01:15:52one of the issues, and that is a great idea, and we can connect with Chief investigators see if there's a way to make it work. But the system that they are pulling data from, is not the same system that OCI enter datas enters data into. Yeah, they don't Yeah. The CAD system, which is where all of our events are recorded, is where they get their sampling from, and that when a citizen complaint comes in that's not entered into CAD, that's entered into mass. So there are two different systems, but it is certainly a discussion we need to have, and we will have very soon. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker
01:16:24I think it's vitally important, because
Speaker 7
01:16:2736 I think we get more, way more than 36 body worn camera violations in a year. Is that correct,
Unknown Speaker
01:16:36through the chair?
Speaker 28
01:16:39I would want to Yes, we get a lot more, a considerable a lot more. And one of the things that would help us is what metrics are being measured here to determine that there is a 99% compliance rate. Is that metric just turning the camera on to make sure it's functioning, or is that metric actually looking at the events that happen at the scene, because our data does not match this. And in addition to that, there was a comment that citizen complaints have reduced, right? They have not reduced since I've been here, since May of 2023, they're continuing to rise. Now, I will say this, citizens typically do not complain about the camera being on that's something that our investigators end up determining once they do their investigation. So I would love to work with the department in an effort to make sure that we can, we can match this up to where what we are seeing, what you're seeing, as you all are reviewing the cases and signing the cases are more in line.
Speaker 26
01:17:51So we're not just looking at events not captured. We're looking for like search and seizure. We're looking for any policy violations, if, if we just happen to be reviewing that video, and we can't find it that just not captured. But once we review the video there, the officers have a list of things that we're looking for. Then beyond that.
Speaker 7
01:18:13Okay, all right. So to see it, need to be some synergy here. And you know, far as because the number, then when you say it's a 99%
Unknown Speaker
01:18:21you know, you read that and say it's a 99%
Speaker 7
01:18:26you know, compliance rate, you know, I don't believe that to be true. Based upon what we review. It's not a 99% rate on what we review. You know, because we review, we got these folders right here. These are citizen complaints, yes, and I try to lift these voters up every single week as often as can, as we can, because this is the bread and butter. And what commissioners do in terms of reviewing cases, and we don't see that, and what we're doing here in terms of body warrant
Unknown Speaker
01:19:02compliance.
Speaker 26
01:19:05One more thing, so when you speak of citizen complaints, that's where the Code of Conduct comes in, violations, profanity, demeanor. So those things are associated with the citizen complaints. Officers behavior. Are these, you know, swearing at the citizens, right? So that's, that's what we look that's one of the main things we're looking at, looking for, okay,
Unknown Speaker
01:19:26all right, all
Speaker 2
01:19:27right, yes, sir. I'm glad that Dr Martin brought that up. Yeah, what is the impact in terms of, not the terms about officers engaging in inappropriate behavior, profanity, calling people out of that. I mean, we can go on and on. I just read this case. It is cited over and over. So it's not deterrence in terms of being on camera. It's just maybe I need to perform a little bit more unfortunate so perhaps Deputy Chief can respond. We have raised that issue over the year. Demeanor is like number one, and I don't, I don't understand that I served 32 years. I can't, I just can't. Back in the old days, you know, perhaps you hit, we could not prove it, but today we can cite you because we have it on camera. But I don't know respond of the department in terms of dealing with this situation. I don't know if we have repeat offenders or not, okay, so that means we have a repeat of fin that we need to address. That if someone along the line this issue
Speaker 14
01:20:34through the chair, absolutely, one of the things that the body worn camera has has done it, has it has removed out from many of the investigations. Like you said, there was a time when it was very difficult to prove cases. We're now able to establish with certainty, or relatively more certainty, what occurred, and that is certainly one of the benefits. I do believe that the body worn cameras do serve deterrence. However, there is our employees are human. They do error. Sometimes they error egregiously. No one thought that the implementation of body worn cameras would eliminate misconduct. The goal was that it would help us adjudicate misconduct. I think it has accomplished that stellarly, but this conversation certainly has raised the need for myself, Dr Martin and the chief investigator and his team to sit down, compare our numbers, analyze each other's processes. One of the things that we've noticed that when we sit down together and we look at the work that each other has done, the other side can usually offer some insight that is very valuable, and we welcome that from the chief investigator and his team. So we will schedule that meeting very soon. Thank you very kind.
Unknown Speaker
01:21:43Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Great presentation. Thank you,
Speaker 9
01:21:47sir. Chairman, yes. Do you wish to update the attendance? We had several commissioners,
Speaker 7
01:21:51yeah, thank you. Let the record reflect that Commissioner Carter's present, Commissioner Smith and that Commissioner Burton's back in the room, and Commissioner Hernandez is here. Thank you, parliamentarian, let's go to the secretary report
Speaker 11
01:22:14through the chair. The report today contains those things under your tab, six that are listed on the agenda, the Shot Spotter, I believe there's facial recognition as well as there is the citizen complaints memorandum from the last citizens complaint committee meeting. The announcements for the week are as follows, the next board meeting is Thursday next Thursday, April 24 3pm here at Detroit Public Safety headquarters, the May community meeting will be held Thursday May 8 and the eighth preset at 6:30pm the location is at the car well Recreation Center, which is 16630, last year Road in Detroit. The next committee meeting of the board is the policy committee, which will be meeting Tuesday, April 29 at 5pm and that will be here at public safety headquarters and the Woodward conference room. And that is the report today.
Speaker 7
01:23:22Thank you. Very kindly. Let's go to unfinished business. Commissioner Bernard.
Speaker 15
01:23:27I'd like to give a report on the policy committee. Item seven, A is by the direction of the policy committee, I move to adopt directive 102, point 12, duty to intervene. No, sir, I don't have to have a motion. Do I have
Speaker 9
01:23:46a motion? You don't have a second because there's a motion coming from a committee. So there's no second requirement of this committee motion, but they do have to make the motion, but it's not your personal motion, it's the committee's motion. Okay?
Speaker 15
01:23:59The committee moves that by the direction of the policy committee, I move to adopt directive 102, point 12, duty to intervene
Speaker 7
01:24:08by direction of the policy committee and supported by Commissioner lost the wash, help us our way to write this stuff out for US. Direction it
Speaker 9
01:24:20is moved by direction it is moved by direction of the policy committee.
Speaker 7
01:24:23Okay, by direction, that's okay. I directed on the policy committee adopt
Speaker 15
01:24:28directive 102, point 12, the duty of police officers to intervene,
Unknown Speaker
01:24:35Mr. Chairman, needs to say that motion so that it is so
Speaker 7
01:24:38by direction of the policy committee, the duty to intervene policy. The request is to adopt a duty to intervene policy at one or two point 12, any discussion, all in favor, say, aye, opposed motion is carried. There you go. We got it.
Speaker 15
01:24:58The next one, the policy by the direction of the policy committee, we move to adopt directive number two, oh 1.2 patrol related reports,
Unknown Speaker
01:25:11okay, by direction of the policy committee,
Speaker 7
01:25:16the director of two, oh 1.2 patrol related reports. Any discussion, all in favor, say, aye. Anyone opposed, motion is carried. Thank you.
Speaker 15
01:25:28By the direction of the pilot of the policy committee, we move to adopt directive, or 1.1 performance evaluation ratings
Speaker 7
01:25:38is moved by the policy committee by the direction of policy committee to approve director for 1.1 performance evaluation, rating any discussion, all in favor. Say, aye. Anyone opposed, a motion is carried. I just want to thank the policy committee and Deputy Director, Deputy Chief, for the great work they are doing there, as well as our policy director, police and I know it's been Robus and Commissioner to watch the whole committee is doing your Miss job, to work hard to get these policies done and looking forward for more great things to occur out of the policy committee, and encourage all citizens to pay attention to our website and attend those meetings, because they are very, very powerful and robust. So disclose your session what is the pleasure move to go into closed session? Motion made by Commissioner banks, second by Commissioner next week, move that
Unknown Speaker
01:26:51we go into closed session,
Speaker 29
01:26:54Section 8f of the Open Meetings acts, MCL, 15, 268, f1, F,
Unknown Speaker
01:27:03that we
Speaker 29
01:27:07disqualify applicant Sean Martin, or the appeal of DPD hiring process.
Speaker 7
01:27:13Motion made, we stated the motion, motion by Commissioner banks are going to close session. Second by Commissioner Hernandez. Any discussion. All in favor, say, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. This is a three minute recess.
Unknown Speaker
01:27:41You ready to get
Speaker 1
01:27:42them now. Um, do was ignore,
Speaker 30
01:27:47right, trying to do it in a way, yes, working
Speaker 13
01:27:54behind too Old clothes or such, standing with
Unknown Speaker
01:27:57me Like, Okay, You