When successive thoughts do not await one another, the great Lin-chi known in Japan is Rinzai said just learn to cut off successive thoughts. And this is worth and more than 10 years of pilgrimage. It was a time when it was customary for the monks twice during the year to set off on pilgrimages. And Lin-chi recognized that this going off traveling. Ostensibly traveling to find other masters and learn more about Zen. He wanted to warn the monks that it's nothing compared to just to learn to cut off success of Nan Nan is a very difficult word to translate. When I was in Japan, the American interpreter of the Roshi there asked me how would you translate men, and the closest the closest I can come is a thought form. We use this and not in the condone, Gil, one of our chance. This moment arises from mind. This moment itself is mine. So that's Nan, the Japanese net ninja ninja Shin keen and then new friend Ren. This is the Nan is, is we are translated as moment. It used to be this thought arises from mind the thought itself is mind. So it's, it's hard. It's hard. It's that I think thought form arises in each moment is the best translation for men. It's what we're experiencing all the time when we're sitting, things going coming through the mind. The first man what is called the first man is the direct experience. Immediate, direct experience. The sound of the bird. That's the first man. And then the success of man would be saved. The second man would be sounds like a Robin. And the third would be Oh, yeah, robins in New York State are much bigger than in Michigan. And then, yeah, I remember Michigan when we used to do such and such, and then you're off and running. There, second, third, fourth, fifth, and then you're off on a train of thought and have to rewind as soon as you can. That's the process of successive men. But the original the First Men is no problem. It's just a sound a feeling pain, sound. A trace of shadow on the wall. Even a thought, a thought itself Well, yeah, if thought the first as a first men thought, no lunch, lunch is coming. Okay, that needn't be a problem if we just cut it off right there and not start getting into thoughts and fantasies and so forth. This is the this is the real nuts and bolts of practice this matter of success of men and how quickly the mind can take a ride off into the success of men thoughts.