no one a there's a lot of mention of how you can't really reach anyone who's struggling with addiction until they're hurting till they're ready. I've seen a lot of people who just staying on the on the topic of drinking good sort of metaphor for the for thinking. I've seen a lot of people who are able to sort of keep it under control. And people in my family for instance. They drink they don't get into terrible trouble. It gives them relief and it It eats up their days. In a way you're luckier if everything falls apart, and you have to rebuild have to start again. For some people are clear eyed enough, that without a whole lot of suffering, they realize, nope, this isn't right. I need to change. It's kind of remarkable what had happened when it happens. And I want to sort of elucidate an example. There's a physicist named Richard Fineman, just a fascinating guy. Totally, totally consumed with interest in the world and how things work, you know, from his from his youth. This guy for a while was a player in a Brazilian Samba band. He painted, he did all sorts of things. He and a friend tried to organize a trip to Tuva little country between the Soviet Union and Mongolia, just because they were interested in the triangular stamps that Tuva put out. There's a whole documentary about it. Called Tuva or bust. It's really, really fascinating. Anyway, at one point, our man Richard Feynman, was in Brazil. And there were a bunch of people who live near him who like to go to bars. And you know, he liked those people. And he liked to hang out with him. So he was going with them into the bars. He said, The people from the airlines, these were people who are flying in and out of Buenos Aires, I guess, said, No, that's Argentina. Well, whatever big city in, in Brazil, Rio, Rio, there you go. Yeah. So people from the airlines are somewhat bored with their lives, strangely enough, and at night, they would often go to bars to drink. You know, I think when he says board, strangely enough, he's not being ironic. I think to him, it would be fascinating to be on a plane and see all the people that come through to someone who's just totally open, was just taking it all in and seeing what's there. Life is fascinating. You can you can get on the web and see videos of him giving talks, just so no, no, no question of him being a Zen practitioner or anything. But just really, really interested in open and, and honest, says I was one day when I liked them all. In order to be sociable, I would go with them to the bar to have a few drinks several nights a week, one day about 330. In the afternoon, I was walking along the sidewalk, opposite the beach at Copacabana, past a bar, I suddenly got this tremendous strong feeling. That's just what I want that will fit just right. I just love to have a drink right now. I started to walk into the bar. And I suddenly thought to myself, wait a minute, it's the middle of the afternoon. There is nobody here. There is no social reason to drink. Why do you have such a terribly strong feeling that you have to have a drink, and I got scared. I never drank again, ever again. Since then. I suppose I really wasn't any in any danger, because I found it very easy to stop. But that strong feeling that I didn't understand frightened me. You see, I get such fun out of thinking. And for Richard Fineman thinking is an order quite beyond that of us ordinary mortals. Thinking is a discipline for him. I get so much fun, fun discipline on thinking that I don't want to destroy it. It's the same reason that later on I was reluctant to try experiments with LSD in spite of my curiosity about hallucinations.