Yeah, absolutely, yes. So I first became interested in scars when I actually received an impromptu treatment at a workshop in the UK. I had been suffering was struggling throughout this workshop that I was attending as an attendee, which was not about scar tissue. I had really bad menstrual cramps, and I was like, oh, struggling. I mentioned it to one of my colleagues, and she was like, Oh, I'll give you treatment in the break, you know, because that happens all the time. We just are so kind to each other, really. And I jumped on the table. I was fully clothed, and she basically did what I didn't know then, but I know now, was a transverse plane, a myofascial technique, where she basically sandwiched me between her hands, so one hand on my sacrum, one's hand on my abdomen, and she just sat there in this still hold, and I was lying supine and fully clothed, and just a bit like, wow, this is nothing. Nothing's working. What's happening here? Didn't really understand what's going on. I was probably about six months out of massage school, and then she just leaned right in, and she was like, Christine, when did you have your surgery? And I was like, How did you know had surgery? She goes, I can feel it. And I was like, oh, what? So that was mind blowing for me. And I was just sort of kind of freaked out, and stayed on the table maybe 10 minutes. And then she was like, Okay, we you can hop off now. So hopped off. And was just like, not really in pain, not the same pain as I was in. And I had done stretching and breathing and meditation and even taking painkillers all before that workshop, and nothing had touched the edge of this, and she'd done, like, 10 minutes, maybe 15 Max, and I got off the table feeling completely different. And that was what sparked me, because I was just like, What has she done? How did she know I had surgery? What's that even got to do with it? How? How did she know this? And I was totally closed. And yeah, so it just brought up all of these questions. So then I started to find out a little bit more about scar tissue. What is it? How is our fascia involved in it? And started this exploration, this journey of learning all about scars. And I learned a lot from a lot of different people around scars and around fascia. When I started to use it, I was trained in clinical sports massage, so I was using cross fiber friction and skin rolling and C bending and torquing and all of these things, right? And I was like, Oh, this doesn't feel too kind to these clients on their scars. And now through the process of trying it out, and yes, it worked, but it just never quite felt right. So I was almost at the stage of shelfing all of these techniques, and I came across more gentle techniques. So I started to try these out. And then I went and learned lymphatic drainage, decongestant, lymphatic therapy. It's called in Australia. The more I want to say advanced techniques, it's true, they are. It's not just our manual lymphatic it's a bit more focused on redirecting the lymphatics and understanding how a scar affected that. So this all was happening all at once. I started using. And more gentle techniques, and they seem to still work. And I thought, oh, gosh, wow, that's amazing. I'm getting good results, and it feels good to do doesn't, because I kept just thinking, These people have been through enough already. I don't want to hurt them. And so it just these gentle techniques seem to work really well, and they liked having that done. They they were the feedback I was getting from clients was, this is relaxing. It feels good. I feel great. And I'd look at their skin before and after, and it was the same color. It wasn't all pinked up and red. And I was like, Okay, this is doing something, and now I have to find out what. So again, more research, more study, more experimentation, and in my clinic. So I ran a clinic in a small country, rural town, and I started teaching my staff this, and then they started doing it so people were coming in to us with things like back pain and headaches. And what I found was when I started asking every single client, do you have a scar? Nine times out of 10 people with low back pain had an abdominal scar, and I was like, Ah, I wonder, how about, how about we just treat your scar today, and you can come back next week and let me know how it's gone. If it hasn't done anything, I'll treat you again. No problem. I'll treat your back. So I started treating people's low back pain by treating their abdominal scars so not touching their back at all, and their back pain would either dissipate or completely resolve. And this was people who had had surgeries 2030, years ago. And I was like, wow. So this is something and again, more research, more learning, getting my staff to try it out, they were getting the same results as me. It's like, okay, this is this is great. And so we just kept doing that. So we were finding people with headaches had dental scars. So I'd gone over to the UK and I studied TMJ and entered into oral techniques with an amazing trainer there who also understood scars. They all it was all just adding up and adding up and adding up. Yeah, so that's, that's kind of scars.