Thanks. Well, that's it that question alone? Probably could I could do this for about 45 minutes depending on how I play it. Yeah, you know, the logical thing to do when you know you want to be an architect is to study comparative literature. So I did that. I mean, I knew I kind of knew as a little kid that I wanted to be an architect, but for some reason, I thought I needed to do something else first, which I should say in the American system. We have that luxury of like, you know, having an undergraduate that's only marginal They related to what you want to do. And then you do a masters or, in my case, a four year master degree. So yeah, I went I, as a little kid, I sort of was drawing and knew I kind of want to be an architect. But I also really like I really wanted to be a writer, actually, I couldn't kind of make up my mind. So I, I decided that I was going to be a writer and I actually began studying literature. I moved to Spain to study Latin American literature. Another another curious choice. But my university had a program in Spain. And it was here that I realized, what am I doing, I really want to be an architect. At that point, it was sort of too late to turn back and I finished my undergraduate degrees. reasons I won't get into I finished a degree in political science, rather than literature and history of architecture. And then I went to, to Harvard, where I did a four year Master of Architecture, and I moved to Spain to practice here, and then eventually, back to my native Chicago, where hadn't lived since I was a kid. Actually, I practiced there for a while. But I always knew, I think the place I felt most at home most comfortable really was the academic world. I mean, it just was sort of my, you know, in truth, I enjoyed thinking and writing about architecture, more than I felt that I actually enjoyed the practice of architecture, it was just not, you know, it wasn't the rhythm that I really wanted, you know. And most of the day to day stuff just wasn't stuff I was particularly interested in, or, frankly, all that. So, as soon as I could, I began combining practice with teaching, and ultimately became full time faculty at Illinois Institute of Technology. And while I was there, I heard about this young school in Spain, where I'd always kind of wanted to come back to and at that point, architecture was new. And IE, really, I think they had been teaching it for four years or so. And I had known of it as a business school from when I lived in Spain previously, I didn't know that anything to do with architecture. And one thing led to another and I was offered the position to be the Director of Undergraduate Studies, this is now 13 years ago. And as part of that school, from the start was this program in business for at that point business for architecture. And now it's Master of Business and architecture and design, which was any kind of encapsulated this idea that like, it's one thing to, to learn the discipline of architecture, and it's another to practice it, and that sometimes that chasm, which I lived, like, painfully, most of us probably have, right? Going out with these, like, you know, world changing ideas and coming face to face with a contract, or coming face to face with, why is the phone not ringing. And not really being prepared for it. So all of this was happening to me, I was being offered this job during the financial meltdown. 2008 It was right and seeing some of my friends in Chicago being laid off, you know, one morning in big firms there and seeing what, you know, how the kind of lack of resilience we had as a profession. So when I came here, I felt like we were doing really some of the right things. And one of the right things I thought was really dealing with business at the undergrad level at the graduate level, but dealing with it as a as a designed process. You know, I mean, you can design a practice, like you design anything, and you think about it, how do I get if this is the result I want? How do I get there. And the other thing was to think and I guess we'll talk about this maybe a little bit more was to separate as much as we could the discipline of architecture from the from the profession. That is we're going to teach the discipline of architecture. For some of my students, it will be great for them to go on to be architects, which is a wonderful, noble, fantastic profession. But not all of them do or will want to. And so what we're trying to do is to prepare them for that kind of more varied, professional world. Anyway, that's how I got here. While I was here. I knew I wanted to do a PhD. And I was really interested in some of the stuff that Skidmore, Owings and Merrill was doing. In the 30s X ray, when they started, they were they were started right in the middle of the Great Depression. And I began that as a thesis at the Polytechnic here in Madrid in architecture, but I soon realized this was actually more of a business PhD and had to do more with organization. And so I while I was here, I did my doctorate at the business school talking about two different things one organization is founded in moments that are I think the technical term is crappy. Some of our in really negative socio political economic moments, what happens to organism