Welcome to the AR show where I dive deep into augmented reality with a focus on the technology, the use cases and the people behind them. I'm your host Jason McDowall. today's conversation is with Robert Scoble. Robert is a futurist strategist and the author of four books about technology. His latest book is the infinite retina co authored with arena Cronin, which explores the emerging era of spatial computing, including AR VR, robotics, autonomous vehicles and more. Robert has spent his career at the intersection of technology and media working as a journalist and evangelist and a futurist, most notably at Microsoft and Rackspace. During that time, he's interviewed more than 1000 people from research labs to startups to major tech companies, including the likes of Tony Shea, Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates. The interviews mixed with his own insights formed the basis for the four books on technology trends he's published in the last 14 years. But in 2017, he was accused of sexual harassment by several women, which became public during the metoo movement. What Robert did was wrong, and he admits as much in our conversation, he goes further to describe the necessity for better behavior and better more diverse company cultures throughout the tech industry. He seeks to counsel founders on the dangerous mindsets that lead to sexual harassment and the damage it causes to victims, their careers in the companies where they work. He also counsels founders on the risks of loneliness, mental illness, and addiction, which are all far more common than many of us realize, jump ahead in the episode to one hour, four minutes and 20 seconds. For this part of the discussion. We start our conversation talking about Roberts latest prediction about Apple and their plans to create the next great spatial computing device. This interview was recorded a few days before the recent Apple announcement about the air pod Max, a device that forms the basis of Roberts predictions. He describes something with immersive spatial sound and visuals that can create an entirely new type of experience. We also talk about Google Glass, and its violation of an implicit social contract we have with each other, as well as the role of Tesla in the broader definition of spatial computing. As a reminder, you can find the show notes for this and other episodes at our website, the AR show calm, let's dive in. Sorry, can you tell us the story behind the story of you coming out of the shower, or having the photo taken in the shower with Google Glass? What was happening there?