Until this past summer, in August, I made an effort to attend Podcast Movement where I knew this agency would be attending. And at this event at this in person event, they had a few representatives from their company, who were speaking on a panel, I attended that panel session. And then at the end, I went up to speak to one of the team members from this agency, I introduced myself told them how much I loved working with their team, and then said, Hey, I would love to schedule a follow up call after this event. And again, same proposal, right, explore what other brands you have on your client roster that we may be a good fit, to support and to work with through our show through our podcast. And this time, because I have that face time with this person, right? It's much more memorable when you obviously are face to face with someone when I came back, and I followed up with an email to schedule that call. Because we had already had that agreement in place in person, she was able to immediately connect me with someone else on our team to get that conversation going.