We once were told by a doctor that we respected very much that that when a doctor orders lots of tests, the more diplomas The doctor has, apparently the more tests that he feels confident of order ordering on a patient that a real first class doctor gets very little or very few very few tests, as his own intuition, his own sensitivity, which he's able to, to diagnose, or as a man that doesn't have this kind of thing needs all kinds of tests. In the same way with a teacher, especially in Japan today, this is the system has declined drastically, that is to say, the genuineness after having been in Japan, Buddhism, having been in Japan for some 900 years. It's become rigid and petrified. There are all kinds of fraudulent practices that are going on. Some respects it's a good day, like the Middle Ages, just before Luther are the kinds of abuses that Luther tried to overcome, where people were buying penances or indulgences, whatever it was, and the priests were growing fat on the money that They were making isn't perhaps that kind of thing. But certainly people that get to go through the whole koan system in no time at all, a teacher practically gives them every call on without demanding any kind of help from the student. When we were when we were in Japan, the second professor, he was a Fulbright Scholar came over. He was very much interested in practicing Zen we became acquainted and and he was told to go see a certain retired Roshi in Kyoto. And he was taken there by a Zen priest, man who had a temper with a family and spoke good English. He acted as this man's as this professors, interpreter. And they used to go to this retired law, she's quarters. And they went through, I was living at that time with this fellow and he told me this, when he would come back, he would go three times a week, to the door she's place. And he was given, given the answers the whole Mumonkan. This took about a month and about two months. And he said to me, that is the this was professor. He's I don't know what I'm doing here. He said, The Roshi did however, say to him at the end, he said, You must understand that you are not enlightened. Well, this, the professor, why did you give me Tell me all of these answers. While he said you're a foreigner, you don't speak Japanese. And he said, I wanted you to know, because this was the only way that you could get it. I wanted you to know what the Mumonkan was about. At least he had the good grace to tell him that he was not enlightened. Well, this had just the opposite effect. The span became a professor became very disgusted. And he quit. In the short time after that, he quit Zen. He was also by the way, paying the interpreter. Fee, each time that he went to see the door, she very likely that all she didn't get any part of this hobby was taken care of by the temple. But certainly the interpreter was paid a very good, very good fee. And this is one case. Many other cases where people are passed with practically no effort at all, even in the monasteries, people are known normally one is supposed to spend three months, another three years in the Zen temples, three years, it's considered to be that length of time that one stays in a before one is qualified to take over a temple one at least needs this basic kind of training. Well, there are very few monks these days that will stay three years and they have lots of ways of getting out of it, which paying money is one of them well, so that whereas the the idea of giving English shown it was intended to protect the public,