Well, I grew up in a family that valued giving. So you know, it starts it starts there. And, and I remember, you know, a few times my parents sort of giving me money to give away and it was my first experience with it, when I found interesting about it was they weren't sort of trying to teach me the the you know, how to make complicated decisions and who to give to they were literally just working on, here's the $5 bill, you go put it in the basket, you go give it to that person, you know, and so is because you know, as a kid, you kind of go Wow, imagine how much candy I can pie with? Yes, no, especially back in the day pre inflation, little finance. Okay, so I remember, really, family values, I think is the really the beginning of my story. That then I went to university, I studied corporate finance, you know, the weird part about that was never good at math. What I did start to understand as I got mature, was that I was good at understanding systems, even though I wasn't always good at getting the answer, right. That played into my my life later, as I accidentally got into the world of charity. Now what I mean by accidentally is my dad, is he's just recently retired, actually, but my dad is the, you know, one of the two pioneers of charity law, and sort of, you know, gift planning, as we might call it, in Canada, you know, way back in the day, no one specialized in this stuff. And he was one of the pioneers who really said it crazily like I'm going to I'm going to do this. So after I left corporate finance, which was more of a cultural decision, you know, for me, and what I want to do with my life, didn't align culturally, but I loved the learning. And I liked the people. I started just happenstance going into, you know, a few projects with with with with my dad. And I was like, Wow, this charity stuff is like, I thought it was all kind of like, just a nice thing to do. And it is, by the way, but it's actually this like, whole world unto itself. It's an entire sector. It's an entire mini economy. It has to do with hearts, it has to do with mines has to do with wallet, it has to do in safety with using different words time, talent and treasure, which is effectively, you know, us as human beings. And so I started to get really interested and what was lucky was that I had this kind of Canadian reference, Wayne Gretzky as my mentor. Like I had the I had the one of the relatively very few people who was substantively fluent and innovative, you know, sort of, you know, so what I did for my first couple years and was a culture shock, leaving the bank where I thought I was a hotshot was just sitting in my dad's pocket, you know, basically saying nothing for three or four, maybe up to five years just sitting in meetings and absorbing and absorbing and absorbing. That's where I started. Then I moved to if you want to meet with Blake, his name's Blake, you got to meet with me first. That's where I started to really develop my own ability to interface with people and solve complex problems. I also learned how to not answer questions I don't know the answer to because I could always go to the big guy. So, you know, from there, I started to get really fluent in philanthropy, and that's the blessing and sort of curse of my life. Why is it a curse, because it really makes me feel obligated to share what I know and do things in the sector. So when people say, Oh, tell you what a great entrepreneurial story, I don't really feel I'm an entrepreneur by sort of business nature, I feel like I'm entrepreneur based on almost an obligation and on a vocational level. So So why did we start charitable and PAC in short, because it was just crazy to me that people had to come and sit down with us and pay us money, to get access to information that was, should have been available to everyone. And number one, so no accessibility to objective, impartial giving advice, it just wasn't scalable at all. And we were arguably part of the problem. The second piece was there was nowhere to carry out your giving,