showing up for your audience and marketing your business can feel overwhelming. And that's why it's important to find something that works for you. In today's episode, I'm actually re airing an old interview that I had with my friend Kelly James over on her podcast business first creatives. In the episode we talked about how you can use the podcast as a marketing tool in your business, how to determine if it's the right fit for you, and my advice for people just getting started. Now if you are someone who enjoys conversations like this, I highly encourage you to head over to Callie's podcast business first creatives, give her a listen. Leave her review and subscribe so that you can always listen and support fellow podcasters. All right, let's get into the episode. Hey, y'all, welcome to the clocking in Podcast, the podcast for podcasters entrepreneurs and professionals making their way in the working world while building their own personal brand in the podcasting industry. I'm your host Haylee Gaffin, owner of Gaffin creative a podcast production company for creative entrepreneurs. If you're a podcaster, or even just dreaming about launching your own podcast someday, this show was built to help you merge your love of conversation, education and business. You can find resources shownotes and more for the clocking in podcast at Gaffin creative.com. Today's episode is brought to you by Mike check society, a community that was built for podcasters who are looking to take their podcast from good to great, scale your podcasts, improve your processes and connect with your listeners through our educational trainings, our private members only community and our monthly calls. If you're ready to join us, you can head over to Mic check society.com and enroll today. And you can get $10 off per month with the code podcast now let's clock in and get to work.