Yeah. Yeah. And that what both of y'all are hitting on are both the use of power, right? Like, what are you? How are you using it, and how you gain it. So Becky, the things you were saying of like the kind of identity markers and positions that give us power? Right? And then John, what you are saying and the influence, the ability to do that's like the textbook definition of power, right is the ability to do and I love to even backup even more, what gives us the ability to do? And so when I asked this question of so many people over the years, we can't come up with a list. Resources, right? Yeah. So not just money in capital, but also space, right? connections of people. Visibility, when we have power where we're seeing, right, so all of those things, you named Becky, those identity markers, what do they give those folks, depending on how they identify, they give them a certain level of visibility, right or invincibility. They dictate that we are heard, right? What we say matters, what we say is part of that, you know, to in decisions that impact our own lives, that those are things that we are able to influence those things, right, we are heard, we have choices. Right? When you have power, you have choices, you have choices on how you react and how you show up in a room and how you will, you know, deploy the power. And you have and you have safety. Right, you're safe. Right? When we have power. There's a lot of other things we talked about benefit of doubt, representations, a lot of things but if we just took those five things, we have power, we have resources, visibility, voice, safety and choices, right? I'm always telling nonprofits to look at that at every level. How are you ensuring that the people you serve are seen heard, resourced? Have some self determination and choices and safe? Right? It especially considering the historical systems that have denied them those things? So when they have identities that have they've been systemically denied those things? How are you restoring right, their ability to have those things, that's what it means to bring power to people to bring power all people now with the power that we have, just like you said, we all have some level of that just being just living in the United States gives us Yeah, some level of that, right. And so and then there's all these other intersectional things that we have that compile our levels of power, race, gender, age, all of those things. So there's always like we're always looking at for me as a person who identifies as a person without disabilities. That gives me power right? What am I doing with it though? What am I doing with it? I have a choice. I have a choice either use the visibility, the voice the ease that comes up a lot the safety See that I have to bring more of that to the people around me to ensure that people who do have disabilities have access to the spaces and places and the education and the and the work that they deserve, right. Or I can use my power to restrict that. So first, I have to acknowledge that I have those things, right. And just and not just look at myself singularly as identify as a black, you know, cisgender woman, that just saying, okay, for some of the Black and I'm a woman, I can't do anything. That's not true. First of all, as we've talked about, we open the story. Black people have worked and come together and create a collective power in this country. Right. And I have benefited from collective power that black people have built and changed, you know, just even public segregation, for example, I mean, I wouldn't even be here talking to you right now. Right? Had it had it not been for black people building power? So there's collective power that comes as well, we can we can gain power in so many different ways. But our choices to use it right, are our choices to use it. And so I hope that makes sense that we have to identify and see where we have those five things. And then we have to figure out what are the ways that we use it to bring power to people on our staff, to people in our communities, to other colleagues, obviously, in nonprofits and their relationship with philanthropy. There's always like, again, that power dynamic and, you know, funders, those funders that are being reflective, and are thinking about the power that they've had and the historical power that they have. And thinking about how to use that in different ways, is a great example of saying like, how, what does it look like to share more power with nonprofits in particular, nonprofits run by people of color? And you know, struggling nonprofits in, in in communities in low social and economic communities? What does it look like to invest in those in ways that we have not in the past? Those are the questions that philanthropy can ask, right? What are we doing for Latinos, they have the resources to have the visibility, they have the voice, they have a lot of safety, a lot of protection, right? What does it look like for them to put that on the line? For organizations, groups, nonprofits that have been denied that? It's always to me? It's just It's always that question, regardless, what is power? How can we gain it? And how can we use it? And regardless of how we gain it, if you have it through privilege, which I was called unearned benefits, right? Yep, you still have a choice of how you're going to use that. That power, and there are people with privilege who have used it to work for liberation. And there are people and when I work with a lot of organizations that are all people of color, and all, you know, organizations that are doing deep social change and movement work. And they can have oppressive systems happen within their organizations, as you can build collective power. And still, because of the way we've been socialized, see it as scarce and not want to share or have, you know, relationship dynamics happening within the within the communities and within the organizations. So to me, a power conversation and a routing and justice and equity helps us go go deeper than di, which a lot of times people see as like work for white people, I'm just gonna be honest.