I can those about four years ago, when Eric you want is the founder of zoom, invited us over for a chance and not go into the specifics of the chat. But I can tell you, we have a floor with a couple of rooms in San Jose, California, close to where Nick gear is. And he talks about what he did before. So he's the guy that with a few other people made WebEx, the leading video conferencing company in that time. And he sold it to Cisco, for over $3 billion. So I should have been warmed right. He did it already once. And then he said I just want to do something now that just makes customers happy. Right? That's that's his whole shtick. He wants to make customers happy. And yeah, has consistently been saying the same thing ever since he left WebEx and now started zoom. At that time, we just heard was valued at 100 million after the the next financing round as these things always go. So we asked them, yeah, what what are you gonna do? Are you gonna sell it when it's like a billion? Aha. He said, No. Because this time, I think it's going to be at least 10 billion. And we're like, Sure, of course, you know. Yeah. And it's going to be all in the cloud and independent of any device. While at that time, video conferencing was still tied to all these, you know, big screens and big cameras and all this electronics that you needed to put it together. And nobody thought it was easy to use. everyone hated it. And zoom. Yeah, we started using it after those meetings. And yeah, it's kind of easy. And then four years forward, zoom hadn't gone already public, but more than a year ago, not for the 10 billion that we thought he wouldn't make. It was worth 25 billion done. And this October, became valued at $150 billion dollars. So that's pretty amazing story. So I think in the end, he was right, his product became the most popular video solution because it's the easiest one to use. So if you'd be fine, it's better Because it has more, I don't know horsepower resolution bells and whistles. No, it's the most popular one because everyone can use it. Which literally happened, right? Everyone's using it now. It gets in school, Grandpa and Grandma, everyone that's working somewhere, has been using zoom. So yeah. So that to me is one of the learnings of this COVID thing, right? If technology makes your life better, then yeah, it's going to be more valuable. And this is a very extreme example.