you, everyone. So we're gonna be using the empathy circle process for this dialogue. So as I mentioned, I've been working about 15 years on how do we build a more empathic society. And I found that the empathy circle practice, you know, based on active listening, or empathic, empathic listening, is the best sort of foundational practice for everyone being heard, and creating a more empathic society. And it's based on everyone being heard to their satisfaction. So I don't know, if you had a chance to see the instructions, I had sent out instructions, but the core of it is, is we'll have the topic and I'll post that into the chat here, which is what is your vision for 1964 Los Pinos, road, Santa Barbara, for making a retreat center, here, and, or whatever is on your mind. So you can always speak about anything that you feel have energy for, and you'll have a foreign minutes turns. And we may increase that the towards the end. So we'll, you'll have you can share an idea to you'll speak a list, select a listener, you'll share an idea to pause, let the listener reflect back their understanding of what you've said, you check, did they really get what I'm saying? If they did, you can continue with what you're saying, if they didn't understand it, then you can just say it again, and maybe other words, and then we after the four minutes is up, I'll just hold up. Maybe, you know, sign here time, I'll keep time too. And that's sort of to end you can kind of just finish what you're saying in a sentence or two, get your final reflection, then it becomes the listeners turn to speak. And they select someone to speak to. And if you've seen the previous circles, you know, you'll have sort of a sense of how to do it. And then we'll go for about an hour and a half and then just kind of open it to open discussion. And so with that I'm the first listener who would like to start. I'm here to listen. And I'll keep time to bring that up.